Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

BAGNF05 said:
With the Dragons being an absolute rabble right now I hope we are in the frame for Hunt and Lomax. Class players who will shine at their next stop.
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I have been hoping for these 2 for a while now. We could even offer Nof or Laurie + Blore in a swap or something (doubt they bite on that but if they want something in return than those are who I could think of to offer).

I will say I doubt Lomax comes. There has been less noise coming out of his camp since Hook was sacked and they put him on his preferred side. Hunt & Lomax seemed to be at opposing ends of the Hook debate as Lomax wanted him gone and Hunt wanted him there so not sure he will be going anywhere now. Means we would need to find a kicker if we do get hunt as that puts Wakeham back to reserves. Does anyone know if any of our rumoured targets goal kick?
 
I can't stand Brooks' play the last few years and 'am probably one his biggest 'haters' on here, but over this recent month/month and a half, he's gone complete 180 on his atrocious form over the first 6 weeks, maybe that coincides with the form of a few other guys around him but definitely keen to see how he goes the rest of the season. I just wish he would bring the grubber kick to his play more because whenever I see him use it, usually is to good effect and a far more effective end to the set as opposed to a coinflip bomb to the winger..
 
I've been accused of being a "Brooks Supporter" in the past. I'm quite happy if the contract offer is true. Getting him signed for $550k per year would be a pretty good bargain for a starting #7.

What I will say is this- if the competition for him gets anywhere near warm, I'd be just as happy to let him go & get Blake Taaffe to play the role. Or Kyle Flannagan. Or anyone at that $500k range.

I don't think there are many available halves WORTH the $700k upward range at this stage. Brooks is probably the best option, and a club junior, so gets the most leeway regarding the $ range. As high as $650 seems decent.

But more than that- can you honestly believe a $700k+ Brooks offers significantly more than a $500k Flanagan or Taaffe or Sezar?

Try to retain Brooks, by all means. But don't lock the club into an Mbye type deal for an Mbye type player.

Case in point- at $450k a year, Mbye isn't the worst #6 option I could think of.
 
When you break it down, 750k a season for Brooks is probably about right based on what the other 16 starting halfbacks are getting paid.

Over 1 Million:
Cleary - Moses - DCE - Hynes - Hunt - Keary

Between 750k - 1 million:
Burton - Reynolds - Hughes - Townsend - Hastings - Fogarty?

Bellow 750k:
Boyd - Illias - O’Sullivan - Johnson

These figures are mainly guess work on my part based on reports at the time. Could be less, could be more. But the guys on less than 750k are fairly early in their careers, or in SJs case were signed on their value at the time.

Getting Brooks for less than 750k and then factoring the cap exemption could be a steal. Even if he doesn’t perform, on a 2 year deal there isn’t much risk as someone would likely still pick him up either in the NRL or super league. Halves are the hottest commodity in the game at the moment.
 
If Brooks is in Sheens plans as he has stated more than once, and Brooks signs the deal, it's of little consequence what I think so have accepted it. And if recent form continues dont have too many complaints.
 
I think Brooks owes us in that WT have stuck by him year after year and even when he wasnt in good form .As such his previous deal 4yrs 3.5 mill +/-(backended) to now say 2 yrs as he's older 1.3 mill .Is fair .2 or 3 yrs from now he won't be able to get even 500k pa
 
BAGNF05 said:
His form coincides with a lot of guys in the team beginning to play at a first grade standard. With good players around him you see his actual ability. He’s worth 2 years on 500-600 when you look at the alternatives.
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It also coincides with Brooks being allowed to simplify his game and play to his strengths. Last time that happened is when Cleary coached.

What is overlooked is the role Koroisau plays. At another club Brooks will not have the luxury of having the NSW Origin hooker. I believe the club knows exactly the figure they will pay for him and it will be higher than many of the guesstimates offered in posts.

The superb form of Twal, who has been unleashed and allowed to unload to create second phase play has been a revelation. It was rumoured he had a good unload in his game.
 
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In the end if he leaves, he leaves.
A few competent games doesn't erase my memory. I'd still like Brooks to leave and we start again.
He can go join Sharon in obscurity
 
teddy23 said:
Are we sure Brayden Trindall is happy not playing first grade footy?

Worth a call and tbh would be silly if he didn’t listen or seriously consider an offer from us
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There's Trindall, Jordan Abdull and my personal favourite Blake Taaffe.
Taaffe's playing fullback but has played half and to me is a natural half with a football brain and the ability to break the line.
 
The market place will determine what Brooks is worth and will bear no resemblance to what we on the forum think. At present we have one broken no6 on our books for next year, The Raiders need a 6, Payten rates Brooks, the Chooks need a 7, Dogs need a six or seven, the coast could do with a 7 and the dragons may need a seven.

Demand and supply will set the price and there will be demand and there is limited supply.

If could land a quality no7 we could walk away from Brooks, but that is not going to happen in the short term.
 
supercoach said:
The market place will determine what Brooks is worth and will bear no resemblance to what we on the forum think. At present we have one broken no6 on our books for next year, The Raiders need a 6, Payten rates Brooks, the Chooks need a 7, Dogs need a six or seven, the coast could do with a 7 and the dragons may need a seven.
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Brooks is not their solution
 
BAGNF05 said:
Couldn’t see any top eight side picking him in the 17. He’s probably cheap so not the worst bloke to have deep in your 30 but he’s not a guy whose taking us up the ladder.
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The sooner he is upgraded and moved on for a proper nrl player the better. His nickname is flippers around our house, and that nickname started on his first game where he dropped the ball with the line wide open. A few games later he did it twice off Benji. He has been a complete liability since arriving, then it turns out he couldn’t see and needed eye surgery. How long had he been hiding his impaired vision and taking this club for a ride.
Get rid of him asap.
 
Oldman said:
Why offer a 2 year extension, offer him 1 year why Sheen’s is head coach giving benji another year to make his mind up if Brooks is one of the halves he wants when he takes the reigns,you never know another option might come out of nowhere in the next 12 months.
Its amazing how all players raise their performance in their final year of a contract.
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Most players do lift when their livelihood is on the line. Noffa is a perfect example. But maybe his game has improved due to a good pack and Api getting him on the front foot. The coaches have simplified his game and playing to his strengths. Have a listen to the Matty Johns Podcast and what Cronk has to say. If he plays like this, like Jedi said he is worth 750k minus the long serving discount and i would try resign Wakeman for 250k. Brooks is back to his best, not sure what his line breaks and line break assist stats are, he his kicking well and strong in defence.
 
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