Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

jirskyr said:
tigermate said:
He said that sheens was tainting benjis opinion of Scott causing issues bc sheens hurt over Warren sacking

I passed all this to Lee and justin

Said whatever you think the perception is from player agents they think it’s a rabble

And won’t send players there

Told them they need to get Scott tim
And benji in a room
And put on a United front with agents regardless of what the truth is or we won’t sign anyone

Told them this was why Fainus had gone from preferring us to preferring other clubs

Lee said thanks for heads up

Justin said he had full
Faith in Scott

I told Justin that’s well and good but the market is concerned he won’t stick around and two they don’t think it’s United at the club

Let’s see how it goes

My opinion is that the sheens Fulton benji thing won’t last

I’ve heard from a close mate of benji he’s having second thoughts bc he walked away from a million dollar media deal bc he wanted to keep brooks and was t happy with the deadline we gave him and the $550k offer

And Scott wanted schuster which apparently benji was ok with until sheens got in his ear

Tartak then not happy over that and said well I’ll take Fainus elsewhere…

You can agree with that or not but that’s business

So you can see it’s all over the shop

Scott not happy

Benji not happy

Sheens not happy

Justin and Lee delusional if they think everyone is happy or can’t fix the mess

Agree with other comments that winning helps but it’s pretty bad atm
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If that was a real concern, why did Freddy play him this year? Stefano's selection to play this year was probably earlier than we expected, but also Freddy has put him in the extended squad for a couple of years now, so he's obviously in that mix.

If Stefano's form is sufficient 2024 then he'll continue to be considered, despite whatever skulduggery people will imagine.

Lastly, if the player is actually agitating to leave or trigger clauses in their contract (whatever those clauses are) then blocking his release on a technicality (here the Origin clause) won't do us many favours. We need to continue to develop and invest in Stefano and the club such that he wants to stay, not that he's trying leverage opportunities to leave a year early. We want him to be looking at re-signing with us in 2025, and he'll only be 25 years old then.

Also, personally I'm not convinced that Roosters are in such a shape as to be able to continue to be commanding the top players based on premiership or rep opportunities. Maybe Roosters still have the financial / network pull, but I think they are facing the end of an era of dominance and there are not in any particular position to turn it around. Tedesco is aging rapidly but still their best player, they gambled and lost on Sua'ali'i, they didn't get RTS back, Keary is busted, Walker has been dropped, JWH will retire soon enough. Brandon Smith is off the rails etc. With enough losing seasons the pressure will come onto Trent Robinson, whom they have relied on for a very long time.

Anyway all these clauses seem the new way that players are negotiating, with the top-tier salaries flat-lining, they are demanding other forms of control. For example the exit clauses for Tino and Fifita based on who the coach is.
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Jesus, If any of this is accurate then Sheens should be sent on a one way plane trip tonight,, this minute… playing mean girls with the footy team all because McDonnel lost his job? Are we a freaking charity for mates ? And Benji couldn’t be that obsessed with Brooks to put all his eggs in that basket ? No way he could be that reliant on Brooks .. no way in the world…if he is then it’s best to cut them all and bring in Holbrook and a new CEO because they all truly sound like a deadset pack of wankers
 
tony soprano said:
Reading between the lines it's a player manager war and the player managers want sheens gone and they're team fulton.

In conclusion we are screwed.
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Unless I read it wrong, (the gist of it) seems to be Tartak threatened to take Fainu brothers elsewhere due to Schuster....which is the original source of conflict between Scott, Tim and Benji.
 
Seems the Holbrook rumour is gaining traction - wonder if it could be for more than just an assistant role.

Just my opinion but if that was to happen we really need to Cumberland Oval the club structures and start over.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
I'd say this is planted by Tartak to get Tigers to up their offer if the brothers preference is to stay in Sydney.
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I agree. The thing is when Dolphins get the deal done, it happens quickly and doesn't usually get leaked...i.e The Hammer, Farnworth, Fleggler, The Storm trio. From memory there was no lead up with them other than maybe a few journalists guessing and then bang they signed there.

When Dolphins negotiations have played out in the media (assuming from player managers doing), they have missed their target more often than not.

Unfortunately it is a very similar story to us at times too though. We got Api and iPap out of nowhere. However Bateman and Klemmer obviously lingered on a bit. We know the amount of times the media has played out other "signings" for it to amount in an increase of funds elsewhere and them declining us.

Still very much up in the air I reckon. Still hopeful they make the call to stay near Sydney and link with their brother.

Time to pay the brothers and make them all Tigers 🐯
 
king_sirro said:
Where is the latest traction mate? I haven't seen anything since initial rumour reports
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Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that people just make stuff up on the internet,,even when posting on a fan forum for my beloved Wests Tigers.. I was naive to believe or think that fellow Tiger fans wouldn’t stoop to it,, but it appears I was deluded… 🙁☹️😢
 
king_sirro said:
Where is the latest traction mate? I haven't seen anything since initial rumour reports
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Apparently we were "enquiring to his availability" but whether that means we were looking into adding him to staff or pushing for something more I have no idea about that. Seemed odd to bring him in as an assistant but then these reports about Sheens and Benji being annoyed and frustrated came out the next day and suddenly the pieces start to come together. I asked if he knew if there was anymore to it but nothing else, he was certain we have at least had some contact with his management. I think there's a hell of a lot of conflict at the higher levels right now and we are starting to see that play out via the media. Just an absolute circus if that really is the case. Send us to Perth etc etc
 
TigerNeddyK said:
Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that people just make stuff up on the internet,,even when posting on a fan forum for my beloved Wests Tigers.. I was naive to believe or think that fellow Tiger fans wouldn’t stoop to it,, but it appears I was deluded… 🙁☹️😢
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Been going on for years.... It's an ego boost to be seen as an"insider" so to speak

Usually low self esteem and some insecurity lead to this
 
Pbulk said:
Apparently we were "enquiring to his availability" but whether that means we were looking into adding him to staff or pushing for something more I have no idea about that. Seemed odd to bring him in as an assistant but then these reports about Sheens and Benji being annoyed and frustrated came out the next day and suddenly the pieces start to come together. I asked if he knew if there was anymore to it but nothing else, he was certain we have at least had some contact with his management. I think there's a hell of a lot of conflict at the higher levels right now and we are starting to see that play out via the media. Just an absolute circus if that really is the case. Send us to Perth etc etc
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Who would of thought sheens and Fulton would clash
 
Pbulk said:
Apparently we were "enquiring to his availability" but whether that means we were looking into adding him to staff or pushing for something more I have no idea about that. Seemed odd to bring him in as an assistant but then these reports about Sheens and Benji being annoyed and frustrated came out the next day and suddenly the pieces start to come together. I asked if he knew if there was anymore to it but nothing else, he was certain we have at least had some contact with his management. I think there's a hell of a lot of conflict at the higher levels right now and we are starting to see that play out via the media. Just an absolute circus if that really is the case. Send us to Perth etc etc
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Fair dinkum if recent rumour & innuendo about instability is true, Lee, the Board & Pascoe are going to have legions of passionate fans baying for blood! How can so-called leaders be so incompetent time & time again!
 
tigermate said:
That’s what I heard

…. As in … influencing his decision making … and as Scott and Tim seem opposed on lots of things … benji has changed his views on a couple of things after Tim has gotten in his ear.

Again - don’t shoot messenger

Proof will be over next couple of months if we sign anyone and if tim benji and Scott all remain at the club
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So does this unnamed player manager you spoke to live in the WT offices or has he planted a bug. How the hell would a player manager have first hand knowledge of Sheens changing Benjis mind on anything. Not even the senior playing group would be privy to what goes on between Sheens and Benji.
 
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