Yep, our backs are woeful but the consistent 2 and 3 men overlaps arent simply the result of our backs having no idea, it shows that the middles arent working from the inside.
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It’s certain we get our second straight wooden spoon as the Dragons have a bit of speed and class in their halves and in their backline, they will destroy us out wide like nearly every other team has.
Why we didn’t shop for more halves and backs depth weeks ago, I will never know.
Our forwards are decent besides lacking a fast and strong strike back rower and we could do with a more creative attacking back up hooker until Da Silva is ready for constant NRL game time.
krissy
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Our horrendous defensive efforts created enough space for 3 Pongas to run through
851
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I said when these 2 got contract extensions that it was a brain dead decision, but I was howled down
The Chad
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A couple of outside backs that make good defensive reads are probably more important than strike power out wide at the moment.
Staines isn't terrible, I'd have him on a wing.
Parker, Alamoti, Momerovski (How is Skelton's defence?)- these guys would help stop the flow of points against us. To'a needs to be pushed into winning his position. Too many dumb plays. Tupou survives based solely off talent. Put him outside a good defensive reader & he's probably ok.
Whoever the halves are cannot be liabilities in defence. Will Smith cannot tackle. Kepoua just doesn't get it, and he's better than Nofa. Naden isn't it. Talau is leaving (& probably our best defensive centre)
If Brodie Croft & Fainu, Laurie, Wakeham, Sezar, Clune or whoever are our halves- we need to contain the opposition scores to give them a chance to win.
And we need better field position. We start deep in our half way too often.
Staines isn't terrible, I'd have him on a wing.
Parker, Alamoti, Momerovski (How is Skelton's defence?)- these guys would help stop the flow of points against us. To'a needs to be pushed into winning his position. Too many dumb plays. Tupou survives based solely off talent. Put him outside a good defensive reader & he's probably ok.
Whoever the halves are cannot be liabilities in defence. Will Smith cannot tackle. Kepoua just doesn't get it, and he's better than Nofa. Naden isn't it. Talau is leaving (& probably our best defensive centre)
If Brodie Croft & Fainu, Laurie, Wakeham, Sezar, Clune or whoever are our halves- we need to contain the opposition scores to give them a chance to win.
And we need better field position. We start deep in our half way too often.
king_sirro
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Toa has a lot to work with. He just keeps coming up with dumb plays.
Keapoa has physical attributes to be a first grader, but I truly believe he is the dumbest player I have ever seen.
Tucker
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His team outscored us 6 tries to 2 in the backs.
His team has beaten us twice this year.
His team are 1 win outside the top 8.
I think Newie are happy we traded him.
Tom Shines
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It’s laughable that people still trying to justify letting Hastings go ….
balmain boy
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None of Kepaoa, Toa and Talau are first grade standard. All should be released ASAP, but also actually REPLACED!! Wht we have so many rejects in NSW cup is beyond me
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851
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I don’t care what he was bought as, anyone with an ounce of footy IQ can see he is not a wingers bootlace, so yes it is all on Sheens.
After last week he picks him again, insane decision by super coach Sheens
Tom Shines
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Surely he can’t pick him there again next week… right?
Yes and know.
Hard to know if it is a defensive style trained into them. But our Wingers are always very compressed. If they stood wider and called for numbers out to them we would have the defence to match the attack.
100% we have to lure Parker this way, swap for Talau.
Manlys first choice centres are Garrick and Koaula. Back up Trobejevic and Talau you would think.
Parker is exactly the guy we need out wide.
Red88_Tiger
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Nobody wants that. I just can’t see 2 junior halves staying consistent in a first full year of first grade
Tiger_Yoshi
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And I thought I was the only one….sent him 3 constructive emails, nothing back, I do know they get delivered…truth hurts
Facts.
He's woeful.
Our backline is a disgrace.
Bar Bula + Toopz.
They're very raw though.
crazycat
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We get an old player, we pay them min 500k for a year or two. They will be worse then DCE/Nathan/Townsend/whomever we can't get now.
We get a newer player, we will probably pay them the same. maybe they will go good, maybe crap. But at least we won't be hiring CRAP to start off with.
Halfback requires a stack of skill. Yet I doubt we will get a first Tier experienced halfback or even a Second tier experienced halfback to play for us. Heck I don't even think Brett Kimmorley would come back as a part time coach for us.
Might as well roll the dice on any young gun willing to make the switch from reserve to first grade.
To’a is far from a lost cause, he has plenty of positives, but we need proper depth to enable us to drop him when he has a couple of sub standard games in a row.
Likewise with Tupou.
It would then force them to become better, more consistent and more complete players if there is genuine competition for NRL positions.
The bigger issue is the balance, our 2-7 is by far the slowest in the NRL and far too slow to compete at NRL level.
Throw in a slow back row and we wonder why we constantly get stripped for numbers when defending.
We need to remove the frauds from the top 30 like Reilly, Fainu, Kepoa and Naden.
I'd like to see Nofo also let go.
Talau is leaving so that's a massive win.
Our #1 is raw but shaping to be a star.
Our #9 is close to the best in the competition, along with Harry Grant.
Our pack is good;
We lack in the backs and halves.
I'd like to see a few extended, such as Blore & Seyfarth.
Few names from superleague;
Priority: Jack Welsby
Sione Mautia, Will Hopoate
Some NRL options;
Obviously Ethan Sanders.
Zac Lomax
Ray Vaega
Zac Fulton
Can't see us landing the Fainus
I'd like to see Nofo also let go.
Talau is leaving so that's a massive win.
Our #1 is raw but shaping to be a star.
Our #9 is close to the best in the competition, along with Harry Grant.
Our pack is good;
We lack in the backs and halves.
I'd like to see a few extended, such as Blore & Seyfarth.
Few names from superleague;
Priority: Jack Welsby
Sione Mautia, Will Hopoate
Some NRL options;
Obviously Ethan Sanders.
Zac Lomax
Ray Vaega
Zac Fulton
Can't see us landing the Fainus
Tucker
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Tupou’s form has fallen off a cliff. His head is not in the game.
Some of his efforts this past month or so have been park level.
I don’t know if he’s tossing up a switch to rugby or what is going on but he isn’t playing first grade level footy for us and it’s about time he gets a kick up the arse.
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