Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

gallagher said:
So we have to change our coaching structure to suit a couple of rookies? We're a gutless club if we don't tell them where to go.
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We need talented halves, a player manager dictating terms doesn't sit well with me either, I can see where they're coming from though the Tigers aren't the most stable club with our history. I'm really torn about it atm.
 
Canadian Club said:
It sounds like it has been suggested by a few player agents, not just the Fainu's.

"Several influential player agents are prepared to back the Tigers by encouraging their clients to sign or re-sign with the joint-venture outfit, but only if there is significant investment in the coaching set-up."
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You are not from Canada by any chance. Thinking outside the box you are?
 
Wiz said:
SMH article. Ethan Sanders to Raiders from 2025 on a 2 year deal.

Fainu brothers to make a decision (likely) by the end of this week.

Tigers need to add an experienced coach to secure the Fainus apparently to support Benji, not undermine him (requested by player agents).
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It's kind of strange how they want an experienced coach with Benji but we currently have Sheen here who is the most experienced couch you would find.

Sanders one is strange as well considering its not until 2025 so must have got ok from Eels to talk.
 
hsvjones said:
It's kind of strange how they want an experienced coach with Benji but we currently have Sheen here who is the most experienced couch you would find.

Sanders one is strange as well considering its not until 2025 so must have got ok from Eels to talk.
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Thats why its all about business. Without fans money they will starve.
 
Canadian Club said:
It sounds like it has been suggested by a few player agents, not just the Fainu's. Suggested that a few agents will advise current players to re-sign if an experience assistant is added.

"Several influential player agents are prepared to back the Tigers by encouraging their clients to sign or re-sign with the joint-venture outfit, but only if there is significant investment in the coaching set-up."

You can't really blame the player agents (in this scenario) for having concerns about sending players to a club headed by a rookie coach with a history of poor management. I'm sure that even the most optimistic fan would have similar concerns...
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Absolutely agree. This was always gonna
happen when they picked the coaches.
 
I think we need as much coaching help as we can get. Sheen’s hadn’t coached in the NRL for ten years and had done poorly overseas. Benji had never coached. Furner ✅.

Sheens will be gone soon enough, I suspect he won’t be coaching us next year. Benji, Furner and Holbrook/Morris would be good imo. I would have been happy with Morris instead of Sheens/Benji.

Josh Hannay also highly rated.
 
liltiger said:
We need talented halves, a player manager dictating terms doesn't sit well with me either, I can see where they're coming from though the Tigers aren't the most stable club with our history. I'm really torn about it atm.
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You'd maybe make a change for star players, not a rookie. The kid could be nothing.
 
Wiz said:
SMH article. Ethan Sanders to Raiders from 2025 on a 2 year deal.

Fainu brothers to make a decision (likely) by the end of this week.

Tigers need to add an experienced coach to secure the Fainus apparently to support Benji, not undermine him (requested by player agents).
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Pack their bags and send them to Redcliffe, most experienced coach in the business up there !

These grub player manager grubs aligned with Fulton are starting to make Isaac Moses look like a Teddy Bear 🐻
 

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The move the Tigers need to make to win the race for in-demand brothers​

By Adrian Proszenko​

July 18, 2023 — 7.45pm

The manager of Latu and Samuela Fainu has been reassured there are plans to bolster the Wests Tigers coaching staff if the in-demand siblings sign with the embattled club.
Several influential player agents are prepared to back the Tigers by encouraging their clients to sign or re-sign with the joint-venture outfit, but only if there is significant investment in the coaching set-up.

The Tigers have already been linked to Justin Holbrook and are expected to pursue the sacked Titans coach. Another potential target is John Morris, the former Sharks head coach currently assisting Jason Demetriou at South Sydney.

Such a move would be made to support, rather than to undermine, Benji Marshall, who is scheduled to take over from Tim Sheens in 2024. Marshall is already taking an increasingly hands-on role as an assistant, but there is a push for the addition of another experienced mentor to the brains trust to help him complete his apprenticeship.

The Tigers have offered the Fainus a four-year deal, comparable to the one tabled by Wayne Bennett’s Dolphins. Latu, a five-eighth, and Samuela, a forward, performed strongly in NSW’s under-19s State of Origin victory last week.

Latu made history when he signed a Manly deal in late 2021 that made him the highest-paid player yet to make his NRL debut. The Sea Eagles want to retain him and Samuela, but have given them permission to explore the market after embarking on a recent signing spree that has put pressure on their salary cap.

The Tigers haven’t got a fit half on their books for 2024 - Adam Doueihi is contracted but is still recovering from knee surgery - prompting a search for playmakers. Aidan Sezer and Brodie Croft, currently playing in the Super League, are two options the club is considering.

There has been a well-publicised difference of opinion between Marshall and new Tigers recruiter Scott Fulton on a raft of recruitment targets. Regardless, several current and prospective players want to see further investment in the Tigers coaching department before making a call on their futures.

Holbrook has already had a meeting with Canterbury supremo Phil Gould and been sounded out by several other clubs as well. The Tigers are expected to make decisions around any additional support staff in coming days, with the Fainus likely to make a call on their future by the end of the week.

Several Tigers players are already heading for the exits, with off-contract utility Daine Laurie linked to a return to Penrith.

In other signing news, teenaged Parramatta playmaker Ethan Sanders has signed a two-year deal with Canberra from 2025.

The Eels were among half a dozen clubs keen to secure Sanders, who was the player of the match in the club’s SG Ball grand final and also starred in the Blues’ under-19s win. However, Sanders is currently stuck behind Mitchell Moses and Dylan Brown, who have made long-term commitments to the blue and golds.

While Sanders is contracted to the Eels for 2024, they may opt to release him rather than develop him for a rival. The Raiders would have the salary cap space to take him next year should that be the case.

Canberra have also re-signed Danny Levi. The hooker suffered a fractured jaw in the NSW Cup that will likely rule him out for the season, but will remain in the nation’s capital long term.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
The Tigers are expected to make decisions around any additional support staff in coming days, with the Fainus likely to make a call on their future by the end of the week.
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It would have to be a big sell or salary increase to pry an existing asst coach to become an asst coach at WT.

So Holbrook is the obvious, surely not Hook. Unless there is a Super League option.
 
Also the extra assistant coach always made sense. Benji will be taking a more hands on head coach role and you need an experienced assistant to effectively replace him as assistant coach. I dint think anyone thnlinks Robbie's future is in coaching he is more a corporate type future. Tim as Hesd of Footy, Benji as Head Coach and Furner and say Holbrook as assistants but their was always going to be the need for a senior assistant next year
 
If Fainus were going to Dolphins, they would have signed by now. They want to stay in Sydney, its either Bulldogs or Tigers
 
BlackWhiteGold said:

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The move the Tigers need to make to win the race for in-demand brothers​

By Adrian Proszenko​

July 18, 2023 — 7.45pm

The manager of Latu and Samuela Fainu has been reassured there are plans to bolster the Wests Tigers coaching staff if the in-demand siblings sign with the embattled club.
Several influential player agents are prepared to back the Tigers by encouraging their clients to sign or re-sign with the joint-venture outfit, but only if there is significant investment in the coaching set-up.

The Tigers have already been linked to Justin Holbrook and are expected to pursue the sacked Titans coach. Another potential target is John Morris, the former Sharks head coach currently assisting Jason Demetriou at South Sydney.

Such a move would be made to support, rather than to undermine, Benji Marshall, who is scheduled to take over from Tim Sheens in 2024. Marshall is already taking an increasingly hands-on role as an assistant, but there is a push for the addition of another experienced mentor to the brains trust to help him complete his apprenticeship.

The Tigers have offered the Fainus a four-year deal, comparable to the one tabled by Wayne Bennett’s Dolphins. Latu, a five-eighth, and Samuela, a forward, performed strongly in NSW’s under-19s State of Origin victory last week.

Latu made history when he signed a Manly deal in late 2021 that made him the highest-paid player yet to make his NRL debut. The Sea Eagles want to retain him and Samuela, but have given them permission to explore the market after embarking on a recent signing spree that has put pressure on their salary cap.

The Tigers haven’t got a fit half on their books for 2024 - Adam Doueihi is contracted but is still recovering from knee surgery - prompting a search for playmakers. Aidan Sezer and Brodie Croft, currently playing in the Super League, are two options the club is considering.

There has been a well-publicised difference of opinion between Marshall and new Tigers recruiter Scott Fulton on a raft of recruitment targets. Regardless, several current and prospective players want to see further investment in the Tigers coaching department before making a call on their futures.

Holbrook has already had a meeting with Canterbury supremo Phil Gould and been sounded out by several other clubs as well. The Tigers are expected to make decisions around any additional support staff in coming days, with the Fainus likely to make a call on their future by the end of the week.

Several Tigers players are already heading for the exits, with off-contract utility Daine Laurie linked to a return to Penrith.

In other signing news, teenaged Parramatta playmaker Ethan Sanders has signed a two-year deal with Canberra from 2025.

The Eels were among half a dozen clubs keen to secure Sanders, who was the player of the match in the club’s SG Ball grand final and also starred in the Blues’ under-19s win. However, Sanders is currently stuck behind Mitchell Moses and Dylan Brown, who have made long-term commitments to the blue and golds.

While Sanders is contracted to the Eels for 2024, they may opt to release him rather than develop him for a rival. The Raiders would have the salary cap space to take him next year should that be the case.

Canberra have also re-signed Danny Levi. The hooker suffered a fractured jaw in the NSW Cup that will likely rule him out for the season, but will remain in the nation’s capital long term.
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So after reading this , what I took from it is if we don’t hire Holbrook or Morris in the next two days we can forget the fainu brothers , and managers will look to take there players elsewhere . Sheer blackmail but can we really not go down this track , because unless we sign players who we think will pull other players we will be dead in the water . I hate to give in but what have we achieved this year , other than drove players away , big ken , joffa , brooks , Laurie has resigned with panthers . BUT what have we signed bugger ALL . SO put sheens back to his old job bring in a proper coach and let benji be a assistant for a while longer .
 
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