Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Wildcat777]

Club talking about moving AD on, how in the hell do they move him on when he will not be able to play for half a season and is coming back from his third knee job.

Okay they probably will not extend his contract, but you can only move a player on who is in demand and I would imagine he would be in as much demand as a pork pie in Israel

Pay him out early if we have free cap space! No brained really.

 

[Wildcat777]

And I reckon our 5/8 utility / #14 recruit should come down to:

1 - Connor Tracey (some light reading here)

2 - Te Maire Martin (Benji quoted in 2016: "I watched him come through the Tigers system in the under-20s and from the time he came in he was just phenomenal. He's got great footwork, a great ability to see the game and you can see by his body shape that he's got a lot of growing to do. As a half, seeing a young half come in and have that impact on a first-grade game first-up is pretty impressive."

3 - Blake Taafe

4 - Jayden Sullivan (worried about his chronic hamstring injuries)

For me 4, 2,3, 1 in that order.

 

[Wildcat777]

Sullivan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wakeham..

X 10

 

[Wildcat777]

If the report is accurate that he's on 500k (WTF!) then no way. Also not sure how many 5/8's we need for next season, currently we will have Fainu, Doueihi and possibly even Galvin in our top 30 as 5/8. Given we'd have Api and TDS in our top 30 too, and possibly still one of Rua/Simpkin we don't need a 5/8-hooker utility. We need either a an organising halfback, or a fullback-5/8 utility.
Say we have Sezer as 7 next year and he gets injured in round one, who would replace him? We need another organising halfback in our top 30 (another reason why i wouldn't have Galvin in our top 30 under any circumstances, a development contract instead)

Agree if he had speed with his goal kicking would be worth 5 x more and be a regular 1st grader.

 

[tigerballs]

Agree. Sounds like Sezer is going to be the 7.

Assuming Sanders is gone to Canberra, I'd be looking at getting Volkman for the rest of the year and the next 2 years. Warriors don't need him and he's good cover for Sezer and Fainu.

Volkman is terrible.

 

[Needaname]

In that case he only needs to learn one of 2 skills to come here,he either has to be unable to grubber the ball past the defenders legs or alternatively kick it over the dead ball line by 20 meters

Needs to do some anti sprint training as well to lose a few yards of pace.

 

[Wildcat777]

IF we sign Sullivan & Sezer that would be 29 Top 30 spots taken based on who we already have on the books.

Really need to release at least 2 maybe 3 players: Simpkin, Nofoaluma, Reilly & possibly Naden or Kepaoa.

Sign Tracey. Resign/Upgrade Staines & James.

Then we look fair.

1. Bula
2. Tupou
3. To'a/Feledy
4. Tracey
5. Staines
6. L. Fainu/Sullivan/Douiehi (when fit)
7. Sezer
8. Utoiukamanu
9. Korosaui
10. Klemmer
11. Papali'i
12. Bateman
13. Blore
14. Da Silva/Sullivan
15. James
16. Pole
17. Twal
18. Kepaoa/Naden
19. S. Fainu

Plus obviously the other 10 or so with Top 30 deals.

Depth in halves, back & forwards! Wow!

My 6 would be Fainu and 7 Sullivan rest back ups

 

[Todd Packer]

So Flanno must be very very confident that Hunt is staying,

 

[jadtiger]

Needs to do some anti sprint training as well to lose a few yards of pace.

I am sure a KFC diet will soon fix that

 

[liltiger]

In that case he only needs to learn one of 2 skills to come here,he either has to become unable to grubber the ball past the defenders legs or alternatively kick it over the dead ball line by 20 meters

And Benji can complete his game by teaching him the rare art of passing it into row 10.

 

[Needaname]

Forwards set the platform, rugby league 101, and they've been doing that all year. At least as well as any other team. When it comes to backline play I'm convinced we have the talent, we simply don't have the structure/shape/coaching. We don't have the halves, granted, but there's never been a structured play to get a 3 on 2 or even a 2 on 1. it's mechanical, just practice it at training like 14 of the 17 clubs do. Us, the dragons and dogs just can't seem to construct anything. It's coaching.

Yeah but look deeper. Our forwards to 1 too many ball shifts for my liking. I’ve heard this many times, we have the forward pack to set the platform what platform?
What are our forwards actually achieving?
Are we getting quick play the balls and a fast ruck?
Are we seeing them belt the opposition and making it a tough game?
Are we seeing them bust tackles and making line breaks?
What they are getting is meters in possession but there is a lack of variety so would we really have an effective game plan on the back of our forward pack alone?

 

[tigerballs]

Yeah but look deeper. Our forwards to 1 too many ball shifts for my liking. I’ve heard this many times, we have the forward pack to set the platform what platform?
What are our forwards actually achieving?
Are we getting quick play the balls and a fast ruck?
Are we seeing them belt the opposition and making it a tough game?
Are we seeing them bust tackles and making line breaks?
What they are getting is meters in possession but there is a lack of variety so would we really have an effective game plan on the back of our forward pack alone?

All they have to do is get metres in possession, which they do. Field position isn't our problem, it's what the backs don't do when in position.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

IF we sign Sullivan & Sezer that would be 29 Top 30 spots taken based on who we already have on the books.

Really need to release at least 2 maybe 3 players: Simpkin, Nofoaluma, Reilly & possibly Naden or Kepaoa.

Sign Tracey. Resign/Upgrade Staines & James.

Then we look fair.

1. Bula
2. Tupou
3. To'a/Feledy
4. Tracey
5. Staines
6. L. Fainu/Sullivan/Douiehi (when fit)
7. Sezer
8. Utoiukamanu
9. Korosaui
10. Klemmer
11. Papali'i
12. Bateman
13. Blore
14. Da Silva/Sullivan
15. James
16. Pole
17. Twal
18. Kepaoa/Naden
19. S. Fainu

Plus obviously the other 10 or so with Top 30 deals.

Depth in halves, back & forwards! Wow!

I am not sure where you got 29 from. This is my current top 30 for next year, let me know if I have missed anybody. Think we have 5 spots to fill (3 if we got Sezer & Sullivan). Even though TDS will probably be top 30 next year I only have what is confirmed written down. I only think we upgrade TDS if we move on Rua / Jake anyway.

2024 Roster

Starting:
1. Bula
2. Nofoaluma
3. To'a
4. Naden
5. Tupou
6. L. Fainu
7.
8. Utoikamanu
9. Api
10. Klemmer
11. Papali'i
12. Bateman
13.

Bench:
14. Simpkin
15. Twal
16. Pole
17. Blore

Reserves:
18.
19.
20.
21. Kepaoa - Second Row

Depth:
22. Doueihi (Season Injury) - Utility
23. Feledy - Centre
24. Galvin - Halfback
25. Tumeth - Second Row
26. S. Fainu - Second Row
27. Matamua - Lock
28. S. Fainu - Prop
29. Ngatikaura - Lock / Hooker
30. Reilly - Centre

 

[crazycat]

You’re obviously real up on the news real well - Manly put out a statement of who managers how many of their players…

Moses currently manages 5/39 players counted and is 4th on the list behind Tarak and the Orrs amongst others

Apologies for adding reality to your lovely little fairytale here…

Ha, I think I have fallen for some fake news.
The Daily telegraph (man they are Horrible for accuracy, seriously dumb). said that 19/30 of their players were managed by Issac Moses.

Sea Eagles' Player management list for 2023

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles would like to clarify the list of player management agencies the Club is using in season 2023.

www.seaeagles.com.au

clearly it is only 5.

Funny too how Manly have been bagged over clearing up the situation which was made by the Fake daily telegraph.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/dumbest-idea-ever-manlys-pr-stunt-slammed-amid-concern-over-player-manager/news-story/43f014151b3fb6cadcb89eb2c5921b49

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Ha, I think I have fallen for some fake news.
The Daily telegraph (man they are Horrible for accuracy, seriously dumb). said that 19/30 of their players were managed by Issac Moses.

Sea Eagles' Player management list for 2023

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles would like to clarify the list of player management agencies the Club is using in season 2023.

www.seaeagles.com.au

clearly it is only 5.

Funny too how Manly have been bagged over clearing up the situation which was made by the Fake daily telegraph.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/dumbest-idea-ever-manlys-pr-stunt-slammed-amid-concern-over-player-manager/news-story/43f014151b3fb6cadcb89eb2c5921b49

How can news outlets get away with outright lies?

 

[Needaname]

All they have to do is get metres in possession, which they do. Field position isn't our problem, it's what the backs don't do when in position.

Ok for a low table club but all the top teams have forwards that aren’t just meter eaters. They have skills and variety and they are very much a factor of their sides ability to attack.

 

[Camel2281]

I'd be doing whatever to get Isaiah Tass. Wighton is taking his spot next year and I reckon he's a cracking centre

 

[JB9918]

I am not sure where you got 29 from. This is my current top 30 for next year, let me know if I have missed anybody. Think we have 5 spots to fill (3 if we got Sezer & Sullivan). Even though TDS will probably be top 30 next year I only have what is confirmed written down. I only think we upgrade TDS if we move on Rua / Jake anyway.

2024 Roster

Starting:
1. Bula
2. Nofoaluma
3. To'a
4. Naden
5. Tupou
6. L. Fainu
7.
8. Utoikamanu
9. Api
10. Klemmer
11. Papali'i
12. Bateman
13.

Bench:
14. Simpkin
15. Twal
16. Pole
17. Blore

Reserves:
18.
19.
20.
21. Kepaoa - Second Row

Depth:
22. Doueihi (Season Injury) - Utility
23. Feledy - Centre
24. Galvin - Halfback
25. Tumeth - Second Row
26. S. Fainu - Second Row
27. Matamua - Lock
28. S. Fainu - Prop
29. Ngatikaura - Lock / Hooker
30. Reilly - Centre

Updated as of yesterday

 

[Fallen Angel]

Sheesh, I didn’t know Stef’s contract had an option for 2025.

 

[gregjm87]

All they have to do is get metres in possession, which they do. Field position isn't our problem, it's what the backs don't do when in position.

Getting metres in possession is in no way "all they have to do". That is as much the back 5's role as it is the forwards. They need to limit the oppositions metres, ours don't. They need to slow the opposition's play the ball to limit their attacking opportunities, ours don't. They need to create quick play the balls to attack off the back of, ours don't. They need to create their own attacking opportunities and line breaks through tackle breaks and off-loads, ours don't.
Our pack is okay. It is competent for the first time in many years. But, it is no better than the majority of opposition forward packs.