Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[pawsandclaws1]

Dogs sign another Panther .. Jaeman Salmon ..

Yep .. like Phil "Gus" Gould says .. "the only way to make a successful club, is to build within, look after your juniors" .. yep yep .. great formula .. keep doing that Gus .. !! Ya ferkin muppet .. !!

The question is if the Dogs are building from the ground up why buy so many players on top of the many big name signings already made? The obvious answer is someone wants immediate success to legitimise their position or as a return for the investment already made. Either way, mediocre results could have significant ramifications at the Dogs

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I guess our problem is match winners are a higher priority than depth players. We obviously need both, but our focus must be on players that are going to make a difference and we only have limited available roster spots

Match winners are hard to come by for any club let alone WTs. We have any number of potential youngsters who could be match winners. The outstanding result is that we have secured many if not all. Not only is the club positioned in the future to have every chance of success but we have denied the predatory clubs talent. The latter is a big win for WTs and validates the reforms to junior development and pathways initiatives.

The point I am making is not to be overly critical of what is happening in the club. Good people and a lot of hard work on the ground has occurred. The club is engaged with the Campbelltown and MacArthur regions which fills me with hope

 

[dribble1963]

In the schoolboys comp today he scored 3 tries and got 2 assists as Westfield smashed Hills. All 40 of their points scored by players contacted to the Tigers too.
That said, he's still barely 80kgs despite being 195cms. He's a fair way from first grade, club doesn't trust him to play flegg currently

I just don't see how we could afford to have Fainu, Galvin, Sullivan, Sezer and Douiehi taking up 5/30 top 30 spots next season. That's one experienced pro and 3 young inexperienced 5/8s, and an injured deadweight.

If Galvin was on a development contract next year then Sullivan signing would make perfect sense, having someone with 30 odd first grade games to help cover Fainu as he adjusts. If we can somehow do a Dogs and get Adam off our books for 2024 that would be great, but i can't see us doing it. It would harm our reputation with players, we don't stand by you when injured. Only successful clubs can get away with that.

In the schoolboys comp today he scored 3 tries and got 2 assists as Westfield smashed Hills. All 40 of their points scored by players contacted to the Tigers too.
That said, he's still barely 80kgs despite being 195cms. He's a fair way from first grade, club doesn't trust him to play flegg currently

Finau is at the Dogs so not all of the points.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Didn't work at the Panthers you don't think
He did EXACTLY the same thing there....

Seem to be going OK last time I looked...

So are you suggesting the Dogs are on the same trajectory as the Panthers?

 

[Canadian Club]

Anyone else find it interesting that Penriths success started after Gould left.

Now it would appear to be a similar story at the Warriors as they look to be coming good.

At Penrith it took a year or so to get rid of the bad contracts Gus signed (RCG, Blake etc) and get the right coach in (Cleary). Warriors appear to be the same by bringing in Webster and a few key signings a year after Gus left...

 

[supercoach]

You can build from within whilst still requiring outside hire.
Someone has to mentor the kids as they come through.

Ain’t that the truth…

 

[Spartan117]

TIGERS SIGNING WARS EXPOSE CLUB’S MISSMANAGEMENT

YOU’VE got to admire Wests Tigers captain Api Koroisau making a return five weeks after suffering a broken jaw to try and help the club avoid a second straight wooden spoon.

Koroisau, 30, has consistently been the Tigers best player all season with his guile and deception out of dummy-half providing the rest of the team with a far superior platform to play off.

In a rare smart play from the Tigers, the club has now extended Koroisau’s contract until the end of 2026 in a bid to provide some much-needed stability to the playing roster.

The only problem? Wests Tigers new head of recruitment Scott Fulton knew nothing about Koroisau being given an additional year on his contract.

Instead it was Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe and soon-to-be head coach Marshall who did the deal.

This is the same CEO who decided it was a good idea to sign Fulton as head of recruitment without consulting Tim Sheens or Marshall a couple of months back.

That’s gone well so far.

And even though Fulton is against signing UK Super League halfback Aidan Sezer from Leeds, Marshall’s agent Matt Desira has now been sent a one-year contract for the ex-Raiders grand final halfback from 2019 to join the Tigers next season.

Is it any wonder the Tigers are all over the shop with management like this?

We keep going back to the late, great Jack Gibson line. Winning starts Monday and winning starts in the front office.

Paddle pop lion CEO Pascoe’s next job should be building a new trophy cabinet to house the back-to-back wooden spoons the Tigers have collected in 2022-23.

He can put it next to the barber shop at the Concord-based club’s Centre of Excellence. In fairness it’s been a Centre of Mediocrity to date.

Spare us the dribble about how well Pascoe’s got the club going on a commercial level. The NRL grant now gifts every club $5 million each year.

So the 17 NRL clubs all start $5 million in the black. By the time you throw in sponsorships and memberships it’s almost impossible to run at a loss.

Api blindside as signing mess exposes Tigers war; Storm stars in Tino bid: Jimmy Brings

Api blindside as signing mess exposes Tigers war; Storm stars in Tino bid: Hoops

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Tigers_Wests]

TIGERS SIGNING WARS EXPOSE CLUB’S MISSMANAGEMENT

YOU’VE got to admire Wests Tigers captain Api Koroisau making a return five weeks after suffering a broken jaw to try and help the club avoid a second straight wooden spoon.

Koroisau, 30, has consistently been the Tigers best player all season with his guile and deception out of dummy-half providing the rest of the team with a far superior platform to play off.

In a rare smart play from the Tigers, the club has now extended Koroisau’s contract until the end of 2026 in a bid to provide some much-needed stability to the playing roster.

The only problem? Wests Tigers new head of recruitment Scott Fulton knew nothing about Koroisau being given an additional year on his contract.

Instead it was Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe and soon-to-be head coach Marshall who did the deal.

This is the same CEO who decided it was a good idea to sign Fulton as head of recruitment without consulting Tim Sheens or Marshall a couple of months back.

That’s gone well so far.

And even though Fulton is against signing UK Super League halfback Aidan Sezer from Leeds, Marshall’s agent Matt Desira has now been sent a one-year contract for the ex-Raiders grand final halfback from 2019 to join the Tigers next season.

Is it any wonder the Tigers are all over the shop with management like this?

We keep going back to the late, great Jack Gibson line. Winning starts Monday and winning starts in the front office.

Paddle pop lion CEO Pascoe’s next job should be building a new trophy cabinet to house the back-to-back wooden spoons the Tigers have collected in 2022-23.

He can put it next to the barber shop at the Concord-based club’s Centre of Excellence. In fairness it’s been a Centre of Mediocrity to date.

Spare us the dribble about how well Pascoe’s got the club going on a commercial level. The NRL grant now gifts every club $5 million each year.

So the 17 NRL clubs all start $5 million in the black. By the time you throw in sponsorships and memberships it’s almost impossible to run at a loss.

Api blindside as signing mess exposes Tigers war; Storm stars in Tino bid: Jimmy Brings

Api blindside as signing mess exposes Tigers war; Storm stars in Tino bid: Hoops

www.foxsports.com.au

This needs to come with a Hooper warning. Not worth the read.

 

[Spartan117]

Tigers set to meet with Dragons playmaker;​

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Fox League from Fox Sports​

July 26th, 2023 5:54 pm​

The Tigers are set to make a play for Dragons playmaker Jayden Sullivan to solve their halfback crisis after losing Luke Brooks to the Sea Eagles.​

The Daily Telegraph reported the Tigers are set to meet with Sullivan after he was given permission to leave the Dragons by incoming coach Shane Flanagan.​

After being linked to nearly every off-contract playmaker in the NRL and overseas, the club is set to meet with Sullivan on Thursday.​

Sullivan is signed until the end of 2025, but is stuck behind Ben Hunt at the Dragons despite the conjecture over his own future.​

The 21-year-old has scored three trues and three goals in 12 games for the Dragons since his debut in 2020, but has failed to cement a spot in first grade after being shuffled between halfback, five-eighth, hooker and bench utility at the Dragons.​

Sullivan is set to meet Wests Tigers’ club officials at the club’s Centre of Excellence on Thursday ahead of their clash against the Rabbitohs on Friday night.​

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‘Very keen’: Surprise Sydney club to join race for Broncos superstar Haas — Transfer Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[supercoach]

Gus said his pathways is two years behind where ours is. So he is building a competitive NRL squad for his pathways kids to walk into in four years. Nothing silly about that. Very similar to what Riff did.

We have the pathways system but lack the nrl squad to give them a easier transition to the real stuff

 

[Spartan117]

This needs to come with a Hooper warning. Not worth the read.

Agree about the Hooper Warning, He has an axe to grind.

 

[Spartan117]

Gus said his pathways is two years behind where ours is. So he is building a competitive NRL squad for his pathways kids to walk into in four years. Nothing silly about that. Very similar to what Riff did.

We have the pathways system but lack the nrl squad to give them a easier transition to the real stuff

Gus is the Master manipulator and a known liar.

 

[Tucker]

I laugh how people keep saying “Fulton is against this signing”, or “ Fulton disagrees with Marshal on that player”…etc.
As recruitment manager, it is his job to provide advice on what’s out there, develop strong relationships with external stakeholders, I.e. player agents and recruitment managers from other clubs and act on the decisions made by the coach, delivering a targeted player.
He is not some oracle, certainly not some grand poobah who people approach with suggestions that he has the power to veto. He is a middle management resource at the disposal of the higher management head coach.
Of course he has a say and should be included in every discussion around recruitment and retention, however his opinions do not carry the weight that many attribute to them.

 

[mikey]

From my memory he didn't put it together at the Broncos. He was a superstar running 5/8 at the Cowboys and got a good contract from the Broncos but he never quite converted to the organising halfback at the Broncos that they wanted. The injuries compounded that. Hence we were able to sign him. I remember at the time when we signed him and Pat Richards there was similar forum negativity about us only being able to sign rejects from other clubs and there was very little expectation around Prince.

At least in those two instances, our negativity was misplaced.

Player of the year 2002 at Bonkos says he must have been going alright. Two broken legs in successive years will slow you down though 🙂 They obviously thought he wouldn't be the same after the second one.

 

[tony soprano]

TIGERS SIGNING WARS EXPOSE CLUB’S MISSMANAGEMENT

YOU’VE got to admire Wests Tigers captain Api Koroisau making a return five weeks after suffering a broken jaw to try and help the club avoid a second straight wooden spoon.

Koroisau, 30, has consistently been the Tigers best player all season with his guile and deception out of dummy-half providing the rest of the team with a far superior platform to play off.

In a rare smart play from the Tigers, the club has now extended Koroisau’s contract until the end of 2026 in a bid to provide some much-needed stability to the playing roster.

The only problem? Wests Tigers new head of recruitment Scott Fulton knew nothing about Koroisau being given an additional year on his contract.

Instead it was Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe and soon-to-be head coach Marshall who did the deal.

This is the same CEO who decided it was a good idea to sign Fulton as head of recruitment without consulting Tim Sheens or Marshall a couple of months back.

That’s gone well so far.

And even though Fulton is against signing UK Super League halfback Aidan Sezer from Leeds, Marshall’s agent Matt Desira has now been sent a one-year contract for the ex-Raiders grand final halfback from 2019 to join the Tigers next season.

Is it any wonder the Tigers are all over the shop with management like this?

We keep going back to the late, great Jack Gibson line. Winning starts Monday and winning starts in the front office.

Paddle pop lion CEO Pascoe’s next job should be building a new trophy cabinet to house the back-to-back wooden spoons the Tigers have collected in 2022-23.

He can put it next to the barber shop at the Concord-based club’s Centre of Excellence. In fairness it’s been a Centre of Mediocrity to date.

Spare us the dribble about how well Pascoe’s got the club going on a commercial level. The NRL grant now gifts every club $5 million each year.

So the 17 NRL clubs all start $5 million in the black. By the time you throw in sponsorships and memberships it’s almost impossible to run at a loss.

Api blindside as signing mess exposes Tigers war; Storm stars in Tino bid: Jimmy Brings

Api blindside as signing mess exposes Tigers war; Storm stars in Tino bid: Hoops

www.foxsports.com.au

This is pretty crap business.

Need change at top to be going the same direction

 

[jirskyr]

This needs to come with a Hooper warning. Not worth the read.

HOTDOG WARNING

 

[Tucker]

Gus said his pathways is two years behind where ours is. So he is building a competitive NRL squad for his pathways kids to walk into in four years. Nothing silly about that. Very similar to what Riff did.

We have the pathways system but lack the nrl squad to give them a easier transition to the real stuff

100%, this is what is happening over there.
We need to cease comparing ourselves to others and criticising their movements. We have set a strategic plan that is being enacted as we move forward. The kids are coming through. The pathways are developing and should aid the transition. We have strengthened the NRL forward pack. Time to strengthen the NRL backline and halves.
The goal was always to hand over a competitive squad to Benji for 2025. It doesn’t seem on track presently, but if we can get the meddlers out of the decision making rooms, we can do it.

 

[mikey]

TIGERS SIGNING WARS EXPOSE CLUB’S MISSMANAGEMENT

YOU’VE got to admire Wests Tigers captain Api Koroisau making a return five weeks after suffering a broken jaw to try and help the club avoid a second straight wooden spoon.

Koroisau, 30, has consistently been the Tigers best player all season with his guile and deception out of dummy-half providing the rest of the team with a far superior platform to play off.

In a rare smart play from the Tigers, the club has now extended Koroisau’s contract until the end of 2026 in a bid to provide some much-needed stability to the playing roster.

The only problem? Wests Tigers new head of recruitment Scott Fulton knew nothing about Koroisau being given an additional year on his contract.

Instead it was Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe and soon-to-be head coach Marshall who did the deal.

This is the same CEO who decided it was a good idea to sign Fulton as head of recruitment without consulting Tim Sheens or Marshall a couple of months back.

That’s gone well so far.

And even though Fulton is against signing UK Super League halfback Aidan Sezer from Leeds, Marshall’s agent Matt Desira has now been sent a one-year contract for the ex-Raiders grand final halfback from 2019 to join the Tigers next season.

Is it any wonder the Tigers are all over the shop with management like this?

We keep going back to the late, great Jack Gibson line. Winning starts Monday and winning starts in the front office.

Paddle pop lion CEO Pascoe’s next job should be building a new trophy cabinet to house the back-to-back wooden spoons the Tigers have collected in 2022-23.

He can put it next to the barber shop at the Concord-based club’s Centre of Excellence. In fairness it’s been a Centre of Mediocrity to date.

Spare us the dribble about how well Pascoe’s got the club going on a commercial level. The NRL grant now gifts every club $5 million each year.

So the 17 NRL clubs all start $5 million in the black. By the time you throw in sponsorships and memberships it’s almost impossible to run at a loss.

Api blindside as signing mess exposes Tigers war; Storm stars in Tino bid: Jimmy Brings

Api blindside as signing mess exposes Tigers war; Storm stars in Tino bid: Hoops

www.foxsports.com.au

Calling the CEO a Paddle Pop Lion in the press must be borderline defamation.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Gus said his pathways is two years behind where ours is. So he is building a competitive NRL squad for his pathways kids to walk into in four years. Nothing silly about that. Very similar to what Riff did.

We have the pathways system but lack the nrl squad to give them a easier transition to the real stuff

In four years some of their big buys may not be around or contracts up for renewal.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Calling the CEO a Paddle Pop Lion in the press must be borderline defamation.

It is a bit ordinary. Even if he doesn't rate Pascoe he should demonstrate respect for the position he holds.