Kaito
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I understand your concerns bro...
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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I understand your concerns bro...
teddy23
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I posted a couple of days ago about Pele’s management approaching us…. seems like they found a suitor today as he’s signed with Hull FC for 2024.
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100% of reported salaries in the media are either guesses or come from the player manager - the manager has a vested interest in advertising high returns from their contracts.
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There is a reason why Gus let him go early, especially considering the Dogs were short of props for most of the year
Tiger-ferret
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Or one will earn their spot and the other will be ressies and if not happy will move on.
Let’s all call this what it really is
Tartak gave us the Fainus
We owe tartak
We take sullivan for two more years and pay him full freight even though dragons didn’t want him
That’s the truth
For perspective you are talking about our team currently with Brooks as a halfback.
I see it more that everyone knows Brooks needs a controlling half.
Maybe we don’t need a controlling half per sae; maybe we just need different halves.
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I have nothing to dispute your take (I had no idea who manages who) but that assumes the dragons are in bed with tartak too?
Coastie_Tiger
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And they reckon people don’t wanna come here hey. What goes around comes around he brushed us once, that worked out swimmingly for him.
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To your point, I agree that we need different halves.
I can’t wait to see our team free from the Brooks hangover. I think Luke has played well, but his mere existence in our team has become a weekly talking point.
Being free from this drama each week will have a positive impact on the team.
Apart from that, these two guys are talented prospects at a very low cost for NRL halves comparatively speaking.
We can’t death ride them before they’ve even played a game for us.
It doesn’t appear a spine of Api, Bud Sullivan, Latu Fainu and Jahream Bula would work as besides Api none really appear to be the game controller that we require and it doesn’t appear to be much of a kicking game between them.
There does appear to be plenty of ball running threat and line breaking ability between them IF the coaching team and themselves can establish the right structure.
It’s hard to be overly confident they will be ready or this combination will click straight away, but it’s not without hope that it could either.
I suppose the hard part is now signing the experienced halfback we need with them knowing NRL game time is not guaranteed if Sullivan works out at 7 straight away.
There does appear to be plenty of ball running threat and line breaking ability between them IF the coaching team and themselves can establish the right structure.
It’s hard to be overly confident they will be ready or this combination will click straight away, but it’s not without hope that it could either.
I suppose the hard part is now signing the experienced halfback we need with them knowing NRL game time is not guaranteed if Sullivan works out at 7 straight away.
Chipofftheoldblock
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That is why the club is looking to get Sezer for 1-2 years. He is the controlling half the club can use in the interim.
Good kicking game, good management. Cool head in tense situations.
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Are you saying we paid $550k for a back up 7?
No mate lol
We need a cool head that can control
Kick well, move the team around the park, sullivan ain’t that guy. He’s a 6.
I get your point but brooks is a 6 hence why we haven’t made the finals with him.
The club doesn’t get it
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Maybe the idea is for Sullivan to slot into 7, with Sezer at 6 to help guide him and bring Latu along slowly. If Latu shows he is more then ready, and Sullivan is guiding the team well, then Sezer becomes the back up.
I'm just guessing here.
When I was told tartak was upset that the tigers weren’t taking schuster and threatened to pull the Fainus he told me that he was also concerned with sending sullivan here …
Meaning he was already taking about it
Then I told Lee and Justin this
And now we have sullivan on 4 years lol at full freight
I imagine that Lee and Justin and Fulton did whatever they could to get the Fainus and promised tartak go to take sullivan and bc tartak delivered the Fainus then sullivan gets a pretty good contract
That’s just how the world works unfortunately when you have management that can’t negotiate if their lives depended.
Look at flanno on the other hand - who knows how to build a roster bc he is a very good and strong negotiator… immediately shuts down Hunt leaving even tho he’s gone public … and then really wants to get rid of sullivan but tells the tigers he won’t chip in … so we cave and pay him full freight. That ladies and gents would never happen with our club as we’ve seen over the years. When we want to get rid of a player or they want to go we always get screwed and we want a player we always pay overs and give them 1 more year than they’re worth …
Look at klemmer - 4 years! When the knights weren’t going to renew him. And to coin.
Adam douehi - 4 years when south’s told him to look elsewhere
We are known - as tartak told me - as a soft club when it comes to negotiating.
We’re an easy target.
That’s just the way it is.
Btw I love the club it just annoys me how dumb mangament are and how much they get played by agents and other clubs.
Justin in a nice guy but not a killer
And Lee just shits the bed bc he’s worried about his public profile and wants to do this aggressive recruitment thing and needs recruits now or he’ll look stupid
Look at how lee negotiated Noffa deal… 5 years and top coin.. yes he was in demand then but normally local juniors take less to stay at a club they love. For us Lee got bent over bc he has no idea about negotiating with players … it’s more about his ego and getting someone to sign.
Same as Justin right now
Both Lee and Justin and even benji are desperate for a good story bc we are getting another spoon
These signings are a lot about trying ti give us fans hope to suppress us so we don’t rally against them
Trust me.
Sullivan was worth 2 years with a club option or at a stretch 3 years but on less money.
We had Hastings as a controlling half, sheens choose brooks instead who he said was “a number 7”… and then after losing 7 games says “we need a controlling half”… why didn’t he say at the start of the year we need a controlling half? Bc he couldn’t see what all of us could - that brooks was not a controlling 7.
I only bring that up bc now that we don’t have hastings who was a controlling half - we go to market and are desperate and pay overs …
If anyone on here has watched the tigers since inception in 2000 or 2001 whatever it was … knows that we only made the finals when we had a controlling 7 and then a flashy 6. Fainu and sullivan are flashy 6s. My issue is that benji knows Sezer is a one year player two at most meaning he thinks fainu and sullivan will partner in the halves.
I’m just over the dumb thinking and bad negotiating bc we get stuck in a cycle particularly when we sign players up to 4 year deals.
I put money on it that we end up paying for sullivan to go elsewhere after 2 years or we don’t make the finals with sullivan as 7.
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You do realise 7 is his preferred position and played there in junior footy. He also won the SG Ball grand final at 7 and was man of the match and captain.
He can’t play 7 at the Dragons because they have Hunt.
Granted at NRL level he hasn’t played the controlling half yet, but let’s remember Mitch Moses was a horrible game manager at 21.
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The club gets it, that player isn’t available. Name 1.
And before you say Jock Madden just remember that he had plenty of opportunity last year to come into his own.
I personally think it’s the other way round. Latu is a bigger body play’s deep in the line and has a bit more time or composure to his plays.
