OFFICIAL Sheens gone

[Tucker]

Also this has to spell the end for Pascoe i'd like to see him shown the door at seasons end, he's been an abomination.

lol weve said that a lot of times over the years with great confidence.
The guy is like a cockroach, he'll outlast them all.

 

[Fallen Angel]

The last straw was him last week saying we lost but didn’t get beat. Even for him, it was beyond the pale. He had to go

 

[Tom Shines]

Yeah just so I am clear, we are considering moving on from the guy who

1) Advised us to sack Madge
2) Made a call that influenced our first wooden spoon
3) Coached us personally to a second consecutive wooden spoon
4) Failed to land an experienced NRL halfback despite having a million bucks to throw around all year
5) Failed to retain Luke Brooks who was a key component of their ongoing halves strategy

And some people are upset? Of course for "keeping up appearances" you'd want everything to go to plan, i.e. the 2022 plan, but there's a more valid argument that reality tells you the plan is not trending in the right direction and a change should be made.

Why is anyone upset by this? Sheens advised us to sack our coach, we were not travelling well 2022 but imploded after that decision was made, and we've made basically no improvement in the following 12 months. It's entirely reasonable that Sheens takes a bullet for this.

But also, according to the SMH update, Sheens' management also reached out to Tigers to discuss an early exit.

Some are flying off the handle it appears

 

[jirskyr]

I'm not sure the board had much to do with this. The original article stated that Sheens management had told the club he had enough. That paragraph wasn't in what was posted on here. The board really had no option but to dump him.

It has been updated since the original article:

The Wests Tigers are set to drop a bombshell barely one season into the club’s five-year plan, calling time on Tim Sheens’ tenure as head coach.

The Tigers have responded to concerns raised by key stakeholders within the club and the sport by significantly reducing the role of the 2005 premiership-winning coach.

It is expected Sheens won’t coach next year, nor will he return to the general manager role which he assumed before taking on the job as Michael Maguire’s successor this year.

Sheens has given the club his blessing for Benji Marshall to take over as coach but had expectations that he would return to his administration role.

The club is expected to keep him around in an ambassador and mentoring role if he wants to continue.

The Tigers have been mulling over the decision for weeks but it was made easier over the weekend when Sheens’ management contacted the club to inform them that Sheens had had enough.

Sheens was meant to be head coach for two years and help transition Marshall into a top-line coach in time for him to take complete control of the team in 2025.

Club chairman Lee Hagipantelis said conversations were ongoing.

“It is indeed regrettable that I find myself having to speak of these matters publicly,” he told this masthead. “But there have been internal discussions about expediting the transition of Benji into the head coaching role which is something that was always contemplated within that two-year transition period.

“These discussions emanated from a conversation with Tim’s management only very recently. The discussions continue and nothing has been resolved as yet.”

Sheens’ power at the club has been diluted significantly over the course of the year with one club insider telling this masthead that Sheens had very little input for the club’s last game against the Warriors in New Zealand.

This masthead has been told that Sheens hasn’t been seen at the club’s Concord headquarters for the past couple of days. Club powerbrokers have held a series of meetings over the past 48 hours to reach the decision.

Marshall will now have complete control of the team and is contracted until the end of 2027.
Sheens has been contacted for comment.

 

[Tucker]

From a CEO and Board point of view, they cannot please the majority of fans no matter what they do.
No fan is happy with the team sitting last on the ladder for the second straight season, so obviously something had to change.
If we kept the same coaching structure many fans would not be happy, now they have decided to shake up the coaching structure many fans are still not happy.

You have to give them more than one year. Geeze Madge got 80 games.
How do we attract a decent coach when we part ways with the incumbants so regularly?

 

[jirskyr]

Why did I choose to follow this embarrassment of a club. My family weren’t into nrl. I could have chosen anyone. I am at the point where I would prefer they kicked us out of the comp.

Boo

 

[tig_prmz]

All this panic over the club advancing their plan by a year.
I really wonder how some of you get through day to day life if you're this reactive and irrational when any perceived setback comes your way.
Benji was already the coach. Nothing has really changed except he won't have Sheens to take the flak.

"Advancing".. you make it sound like we smashed all KPIs and are ahead of the initial plan 🤣

Hope Sheens goes into retirement and doesn't look back. He's achieved enough and in the last 10 years all he's done is probably tarnish his legacy. Good luck Sheensy. Enjoy Europe!

 

[jadtiger]

You have to give them more than one year. Geeze Madge got 80 games.
How do we attract a decent coach when we part ways with the incumbants so regularly?

This was Sheens 11th year and he failed in 8 of them

 

[Tucker]

Benji was already the coach. Nothing has really changed except he won't have Sheens to take the flak.

Exactly, and how did he go?
Worse than last year with a far better roster.

 

[Tom Shines]

This was Sheens 11th year and he failed in 8 of them

Maybe we should keep him coaching next year against his will?

 

[Champ1]

Quote from Hapenstupidus-
“These discussions emanated from a conversation with Tim’s management only very recently. The discussions continue and nothing has been resolved as yet.”

If nothing has been resolved , why are you publicly talking fool?

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

 

[jadtiger]

Quote from Hapenstupidus-
“These discussions emanated from a conversation with Tim’s management only very recently. The discussions continue and nothing has been resolved as yet.”

If nothing has been resolved , why are you publicly talking fool?

The answer to that is painfully obvious,Lee believes he is the most important and knowledgable person at the club.Very few people would believe him

 

[the enforcer.]

Seriously, does anybody get really shocked by the decisions made at this club. I would think most of us are totally over it.

 

[Tom Shines]

So those arguing for Sheens retention next year . … is he just the ”figurehead” coach or not?

 

[Stevec]

Most non surprising bit of news this year !
Sheens nearly as old as me ! Why put up with all the rubbish from the executive
I would have stood down the day they hired a new recruitment manager without telling me !

 

[Vicious]

You have to give them more than one year. Geeze Madge got 80 games.
How do we attract a decent coach when we part ways with the incumbants so regularly?

If we put two and two together and based on reports advising Sheens initiated this by stating he’s had enough, there is likely a little bit of truth behind previous rumours that Sheens and Benji have had differences of opinion on certain coaching and recruitment matters.
That would just be normal for a team running last in any case, but moving forward we have already put our eggs into Benji’s basket, so why not let him run his own race and make his own decisions to see if that helps us improve.

 

[tig_prmz]

Quote from Hapenstupidus-
“These discussions emanated from a conversation with Tim’s management only very recently. The discussions continue and nothing has been resolved as yet.”

If nothing has been resolved , why are you publicly talking fool?

NO COMMENTS
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This idiot needs to learn to say no comments, plead the 5th, whatever floats his boat. Why does he need to commentate on anything that hasn't been confirmed FFS.

 

[clokan]

Yeah just so I am clear, we are considering moving on from the guy who

1) Advised us to sack Madge
2) Made a call that influenced our first wooden spoon
3) Coached us personally to a second consecutive wooden spoon
4) Failed to land an experienced NRL halfback despite having a million bucks to throw around all year
5) Failed to retain Luke Brooks who was a key component of their ongoing halves strategy

And some people are upset? Of course for "keeping up appearances" you'd want everything to go to plan, i.e. the 2022 plan, but there's a more valid argument that reality tells you the plan is not trending in the right direction and a change should be made.

Why is anyone upset by this? Sheens advised us to sack our coach, we were not travelling well 2022 but imploded after that decision was made, and we've made basically no improvement in the following 12 months. It's entirely reasonable that Sheens takes a bullet for this.

But also, according to the SMH update, Sheens' management also reached out to Tigers to discuss an early exit.

Not upset he’s gone, but another example of the poor decision making by management, Their new narrative, it was all Sheen’s fault, let’s move on. Next year it will be Benji. When will it be management, they are the clowns that agreed with the Sheen’s & Benji plan, can’t see any other club doing something similar.

 

[Tucker]

This was Sheens 11th year and he failed in 8 of them

I agree. You and I and only a few others were not happy when he was appointed as coach. Most were prepared to get on board straight away.
That said, we needed stability to try and steady the ship and bring some of the youth through.

If you were the parent of some of these gun 19-21 year olds we have would you be content that the experienced bloke has gone only a year into a 5 year plan? The guy who has said all along that 2025 is the goal, where he will have these guys becoming regulars as he bloods them slowly throughout next year? Now he leaves it in the hands of an impulsive, off the cuff ex player whose only first grade experience as a coach is this year's spoon?
I know what Id be doing.