Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Kelce68]

News flash. Edge defence or should I say edge deficiencies start from the middle and one of the big contributors is having a lack of agile middles. With Klemmer, Stef and Twal all being very similar defensively it’s obvious we need to introduce some variety into our pack.

Umm....

On a lateral sweep, two things, and minor variations of those two things, contribute to the effectiveness of edge defence;

i) Can the sliding defence mitigate the speed of the half/fullback's speed to outside of his man?

Or

ii) Can an up and in defence kink the sweep through jamming, by shutting down the half (early jam) or centre /fb (late jam)?

A collapsing middle can lead to a number shortage out wide, but this is generally accumulative over a set, rather than a measure of effectiveness of an edge for a particular play.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

People saying Keppie offers more than Twal need to elaborate. From what I have seen he would also offer lots of dropped balls, missed tackles and penalties conceded.
2023 stats
Twal: 29 Tackle Breaks, 832 post contact metres, 14 Offloads, 691 tackles made with 11 missed.
Keppie: 22 Tackle Breaks, 747 post contact metres, 6 Offloads, 475 tackles with 51 missed.

Like upgrading from a Falcon to a Lada

If Twal does move on, our prop depth will be Klemmer - Uto - Blore - Pole - Seyfarth - Sione Fainu - (Faagutu), so I can understand the interest in Keppie.

However we'd have to take on his current contract which is through until end 2026 ... I just can't see that happening for a depth prop.

 

[earl]

Twal is looking for a deal past 2024 and the club apparently doesn’t want to extend him at this stage….I don’t blame them to be honest …

the comparison with other players on the squad is not really relevant to the decision you face today about keeping him for 2025 IMO

Exactly. I like Twal but he is looking for a long term deal and at this point we aren't looking to provide it. I think that is fair enough.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Apparently Nene Macdonald (Sezer's teammate at Leeds) may want to get out of his contract with Leeds to live in Australia again (his partner has reportedly just had a baby here).

Experienced centre/winger - big, quite fast, good defensively, Sezer link, probably accept a 2 year deal.

He'll play for PNG against the PM XIII next month.

Should we (if we can't land a Gagai or Olam)?

 

[Todd Packer]

Apparently Nene Macdonald (Sezer's teammate at Leeds) may want to get out of his contract with Leeds to live in Australia again (his partner has reportedly just had a baby here).

Experienced centre/winger - big, quite fast, good defensively, Sezer link, probably accept a 2 year deal.

He'll play for PNG against the PM XIII next month.

Should we (if we can't land a Gagai or Olam)?

McDonald was given permission by Leeds to come to Australia for a week..
He then ghosted them and just didn't return to England without any explanation at a time when Leeds were fighting for a finals spot.
That's not someone we need at the club.

 

[Tigers_Wests]

Apparently Nene Macdonald (Sezer's teammate at Leeds) may want to get out of his contract with Leeds to live in Australia again (his partner has reportedly just had a baby here).

Experienced centre/winger - big, quite fast, good defensively, Sezer link, probably accept a 2 year deal.

He'll play for PNG against the PM XIII next month.

Should we (if we can't land a Gagai or Olam)?

In my opinion, we need to aim much higher. Not a fan.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Outside of Bula, Api and maybe one or two others, how could anyone possibly be up in arms about anyone in this squad being shown the door. It’s heart over head.

 

[Tiger Stripes]

The player has to attract interest from other clubs. You just can't get rid of contracted players unless another club takes the player.

Pay them out and gain a top 30 spot.
BUT must be replaced with a better player.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

McDonald was given permission by Leeds to come to Australia for a week..
He then ghosted them and just didn't return to England without any explanation at a time when Leeds were fighting for a finals spot.
That's not someone we need at the club.

From memory he did something stupid while he was here in Australia. Seems like his character is poor.

 

[426Tlgerland]

Nope, left for Broncos.
Didn't play first grade there either, only Q cup.

Made his first grade debut at Melbourne.

Well slowly got there I suppose , looked ok last night , would look ok in our centres compared to this year

 

[426Tlgerland]

McDonald was given permission by Leeds to come to Australia for a week..
He then ghosted them and just didn't return to England without any explanation at a time when Leeds were fighting for a finals spot.
That's not someone we need at the club.

No to McDonald , we can def do better

 

[Demps]

Tommy Mikaele departing UK, AGAIN
To return to Australia

Could see him playing some Q cup

 

[The Chad]

Tommy Mikaele departing UK, AGAIN
To return to Australia

Could see him playing some Q cup

On a lower tier contract or even T&T...he's a valuable player- unless his form has fallen off a cliff.

Put it this way- Twal/Joffa on $500-$600k vs Seyfarth/Mikeale on $250-$400....how much difference is there, really, in the production on the field?

 

[Harvey]

From your stats it appears Keppie offers a lot more missed tackles.

Isn't that a KPI at the tigers?

 

[Harvey]

Is there minutes played to go with those stats
Just a feeling but believe if twal moves he will be replaced by someone within seen as we’ve supposedly keeping seyfarth

Yes. Keppie averages around 40 mins or less a game. Twal closer to 55.

 

[Demps]

On a lower tier contract or even T&T...he's a valuable player- unless his form has fallen off a cliff.

Put it this way- Twal/Joffa on $500-$600k vs Seyfarth/Mikeale on $250-$400....how much difference is there, really, in the production on the field?

Had high hopes for Mikaele...
Rarely had a decent performance though.

Always looked uninterested.

 

[The Chad]

Had high hopes for Mikaele...
Rarely had a decent performance though.

Always looked uninterested.

I don't remember him being too bad.

He was very young & inconsistent- but he was also a member of a significantly worse forward pack. If he is your 5th choice prop in the club, 6th choice...your depth is pretty good. There's talent to go with the size. If he's a late bloomer- it's a bargain.

 

[tigerballs]

Umm....

On a lateral sweep, two things, and minor variations of those two things, contribute to the effectiveness of edge defence;

i) Can the sliding defence mitigate the speed of the half/fullback's speed to outside of his man?

Or

ii) Can an up and in defence kink the sweep through jamming, by shutting down the half (early jam) or centre /fb (late jam)?

A collapsing middle can lead to a number shortage out wide, but this is generally accumulative over a set, rather than a measure of effectiveness of an edge for a particular play.

Or a lazy/immobile middle.

 

[jojo]

The the national champs last year for Under 16s the 100m was run in 11.05 seconds. If this kid runs that fast he should give up footy and run for Australia - funny he wasn't even in the race

Interesting. Mate who has kids at Scots just sent me the link to watch the GPS Athletics Champs which were on earlier today. Onitoni Large ran a 10.93 into a headwind in 31 degrees to win the champs as a 16 year old. Haemasi Makasini ran a couple of races earlier also.

If you want to see it. You have to create an account
https://cluch.tv/schools/aagps/athl...september-2023-aagps-athletics-championships/

 

[Tigrr2]

Please lets not get Gagai