Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
Klemmer and a gamble on a youngster still to make first grade for Luai seems like a decent no brainer swap to me.

Idk what is too difficult about that decision.

We are all complaining about having shit halves .. So bite the bullet and make it fkn happen. Do we want to get the club moving or what ? Do we want to finally have good halves .. , or still just stay in a rut.
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Isn't that now the Storm and Panthers who wanted Galvin in a swap? If so, he is far more than a gamble when two of the biggest clubs want him and see his potential. If true, wait for 25.
 
The Chad said:
Regarding Nofa- I think it's a little unfair with the totally negative narrative on him. He is, at best, an average reader of the opposition when it comes to his defence. His actually tackling technique is ok, but as we note- he's almost always rushing in. That said, is his defence SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE than any other outside back at the club? No.

He is our BEST winger at running the ball back from dummy half on the early tackles. Tupou is a superior athlete, but does not consistently generate metres in those scrappy runs early in a tackle count. Nofa does. Is he as good as he once was- no. But, he's better at it than Tupou & Staines.

He isn't a liability under the high ball. Again, is he great? No. But is he the opposition target? No.

I still believe he is the most natural finisher we have in the club. If there is a try to be scored, and he's 50/50 about getting there, I'd bet on him more often than not to get the try.

His distinct 'lack of speed' was highlighted ONCE all season. There was 1 run where he was in the open & looked to be running in concrete boots (we still scored on that play, but I digress). Other than that, I don't ever remember people saying "Nofa is too slow". He's generally quick enough to get the try when offered.

My biggest critisism of Nofa is when he does the crab run. When he tucks it & runs forward, he's a perfectly fine player. When he runs sideways, he's generally holding the ball in the wrong hand to start with, but it is costly regardless. Thing is, this ISN'T his 70% run. His crab run happens 20-25% of his runs, and it seems to come in bunches. If you get that OUT of his game (and one might suspect some on field direction might help..) then his forward runs are quite effective.

If our ENTIRE outside back group can learn to defend as one unit, and if we can remove even 10% of Nofa's crab runs, I think he is a servicable to good NRL winger. His contract value, which he gets sandbagged for, isn't HIS fault. That said, I believe he gets a cap reduction now, doesn't he?
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I tend to agree with you. He is no where near as bad as some of the commentary on the forum would have you believe. He is definitely the best finisher in the club and arguably in the top half of NRL wingers when it comes to scoring a difficult try. He doesn't just fall over the line either. He often beats a few with his strength and low centre of gravity to get the ball down. His defensive reads are sometimes diabolical, but perhaps a regular and reliable centre partner might help that. And his cross field runs are a blight that he should cut right out, but his carries back in traffic are pretty good. One thing you can't knock is he is one of the few current players that genuinely look as though they love the club and the jersey. That has to be worth something. At $500K per year he is getting way overs, but that's hardly his fault. Blame the administration for that. Nofo is not the reason the Tiges are wooden spooners. A dominant halfback, a great defensive centre, and a power running alpha middle forward is what is needed to be contenders again.
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
The Panthers are believed to want two of the Tigers' key players - a veteran prop and a boom rookie - before entertaining any deal for 2024.

Sources have told Wide World of Sports that if the Tigers agree to swap Luai for prop David Klemmer and young halfback sensation Lachlan Galvin, the deal could be done immediately.

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I can see us entertaining that to be honest.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
Isn't that now the Storm and Panthers who wanted Galvin in a swap? If so, he is far more than a gamble when two of the biggest clubs want him and see his potential. If true, wait for 25.
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He's far more than a gamble ? .. he hasn't even stepped into the big arena at tigers

Melbourne and Panthers may have seen his potential in lower grades .. but haven't in fg

It's a total different ball game
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
Klemmer and a gamble on a youngster still to make first grade for Luai seems like a decent no brainer swap to me.

Idk what is too difficult about that decision.

We are all complaining about having shit halves .. So bite the bullet and make it fkn happen. Do we want to get the club moving or what ? Do we want to finally have good halves .. , or still just stay in a rut.
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Too bad if come Round 1 with no pre season training & conditioning that we throw Luai into the deep end and he busts his shoulder again and is out for the year. Oh, so leave him recouping along with Doohey until he gets better? Nah! Let him rehab at Penrith.
 
LeichhardtTiger said:
Too bad if come Round 1 with no pre season training & conditioning that we throw Luai into the deep end and he busts his shoulder again and is out for the year. Oh, so leave him recouping along with Doohey until he gets better? Nah! Let him rehab at Penrith.
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I don’t think the shoulder is anything serious. Just sounds like clean up work. He’ll probably be good to go in January.
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
He's far more than a gamble ? .. he hasn't even stepped into the big arena at tigers

Melbourne and Panthers may have seen his potential in lower grades .. but haven't in fg

It's a total different ball game
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I want the club to be as good as the Panthers, Storm, Broncos etc? I believe we learn from what they do and giving away a junior who has been identified now as something special really does not cut it for me especially when there is the possibility of having both in 25.
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
Klemmer and a gamble on a youngster still to make first grade for Luai seems like a decent no brainer swap to me.

Idk what is too difficult about that decision.

We are all complaining about having shit halves .. So bite the bullet and make it fkn happen. Do we want to get the club moving or what ? Do we want to finally have good halves .. , or still just stay in a rut.
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What if that youngster turns out to be another Brad Fittler ? I know the odds are against it, but why would two big clubs be so keen ?
 
Penrith and the chin father and son can go rot in hell, sign Luai from 25 onward, that will give Benji 12 months to start getting the team playing his way and getting him more experience, he is only starting out realistically Luai here this year won't make much diffrence. The Panthers aren't in a position to demand anything.
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
Klemmer and a gamble on a youngster still to make first grade for Luai seems like a decent no brainer swap to me.

Idk what is too difficult about that decision.

We are all complaining about having shit halves .. So bite the bullet and make it fkn happen. Do we want to get the club moving or what ? Do we want to finally have good halves .. , or still just stay in a rut.
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halves will do nothing without a decent pack in front of them, its a story as old as time.

you lose Klemmer and suddenly we lose some of the go forward and security we had in the middle defensively last year. you think a forward rotation of Utoikamanu, Twal, Pole and Seyfarth could actually give Luai the platform he needs? give me a break.
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
The Panthers are believed to want two of the Tigers' key players - a veteran prop and a boom rookie - before entertaining any deal for 2024.

Sources have told Wide World of Sports that if the Tigers agree to swap Luai for prop David Klemmer and young halfback sensation Lachlan Galvin, the deal could be done immediately.

- WWOS
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Yeah, nah! Go f yourselves chocolate starfish.
Two players for one year extra, if he wants to come over we can wait a year!
 
jrtiger said:
halves will do nothing without a decent pack in front of them, its a story as old as time.

you lose Klemmer and suddenly we lose some of the go forward and security we had in the middle defensively last year. you think a forward rotation of Utoikamanu, Twal, Pole and Seyfarth could actually give Luai the platform he needs? give me a break.
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What about a middle rotation of Uto, Blore to start with Twal & Pole off the bench? Seyfarth, Sione Fainu & our NSW Cup middles would be the depth if required (maybe Samuela Fainu on occasions). Then Blore leaves in '25 with AFB coming in!
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
The Panthers are believed to want two of the Tigers' key players - a veteran prop and a boom rookie - before entertaining any deal for 2024.

Sources have told Wide World of Sports that if the Tigers agree to swap Luai for prop David Klemmer and young halfback sensation Lachlan Galvin, the deal could be done immediately.

- WWOS
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Even by WT standards that would be a horrendous deal.
 
earl said:
I wouldn't even give up Seyfarth. It's just BS games. Sign him for 25. If they want a swap no worries you can have heaps of players. Jayden Sullivan, Sione Fainu, Brandon Tumeth, Adam Doueihi, Asu Kepaoa, Jake Simpkin. David Nofoaluma and Aidan Sezer. They can have 3 of them.
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Yeah there’s a host of names we could give up before Klem and Galvin. I reckon Luai is gunna want Klem here. Luai is gunna wanna play behind a descent pack and no Klem would weaken our pack. Unless we have AFB locked up and I can’t see that happening.
Galvin has big wraps on him and can play a lot of positions he really does sound a keeper. That’s why they want him.
Penrith are taking the pee, they wanna see how desperate we are; give us your best prop and your best junior. Snap out of it.
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
Klemmer and a gamble on a youngster still to make first grade for Luai seems like a decent no brainer swap to me.

Idk what is too difficult about that decision.

We are all complaining about having shit halves .. So bite the bullet and make it fkn happen. Do we want to get the club moving or what ? Do we want to finally have good halves .. , or still just stay in a rut.
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Only way I would even go yes would be if AFB was signed as well and could get both for next season otherwise just wait for 25.

Galvin & Klem for Luai is alot to give up multi year v 1yr gain and risk of prop stocks lacking otherwise.
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
Klemmer and a gamble on a youngster still to make first grade for Luai seems like a decent no brainer swap to me.

Idk what is too difficult about that decision.

We are all complaining about having shit halves .. So bite the bullet and make it fkn happen. Do we want to get the club moving or what ? Do we want to finally have good halves .. , or still just stay in a rut.
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That swap would be based on desperation only.

Klem is our best forward and Galvin our best prospect. Keep them for all money.

In all honesty, 2025 is where it’s at for WT anyway.
 
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