He gave it a bit to one fella I recognised the voice but can't put a name to it.... Said something like "you can keep smiling" after he answered him
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Odessa
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Shane Richardson on his immediate focus to help Benji Marshall: “Tighten up our recruitment, tighten up the way we do recruitment, tighten up leaks in the club and all the bullshit that goes with that, and just make things more like a real footy club”
Todd Packer
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Yeah, he whacked a few heads together when they came out with the usual smartarse comments.
Like I said before, it was fun to watch.
Betterdays22
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I tend to agree with Richardson around breaking the bank for a prop. He is a great player but it's extremely risky to load up on a player like that.
This almost gives me a boner
That's OK.eta just focus all energy on Luia...
I'll preface this by saying I'm really not a big fan of Luai at all as a player and think he's incredibly overrated (he's a good 5/8th, but hardly among the elites of the league), but if we were to offer him a deal and sign him, I'd much rather it be something like 3m over 2 years than 4.8m over 4.
When you're paying someone 1.2m a year, you'd need them to just about be the best player in the league for it to be really good value. You're breaking even if you're getting a guy who's a top 10-15 player. You're getting poor value if he's any worse than that. Being realistic, Luai is probably only worth $700-800k a year as Penrith are offering, but nature of the beast is we're a struggling club and halves get overpaid on the open market.
So to lower our risk, I'd propose paying him a greater amount in the shorter term. Take the view that no matter what, we're going to be overpaying but if he turns out a flop, at least we're only hurting ourselves for 2 years rather than 4. The absolute last thing we need is Brooks 2.0 where our cap is completely hamstrung for a guy who doesn't contribute to us winning.
When you're paying someone 1.2m a year, you'd need them to just about be the best player in the league for it to be really good value. You're breaking even if you're getting a guy who's a top 10-15 player. You're getting poor value if he's any worse than that. Being realistic, Luai is probably only worth $700-800k a year as Penrith are offering, but nature of the beast is we're a struggling club and halves get overpaid on the open market.
So to lower our risk, I'd propose paying him a greater amount in the shorter term. Take the view that no matter what, we're going to be overpaying but if he turns out a flop, at least we're only hurting ourselves for 2 years rather than 4. The absolute last thing we need is Brooks 2.0 where our cap is completely hamstrung for a guy who doesn't contribute to us winning.
old_man_tiger
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Great call on AFB if the offer was too high. Apart from API, Prop is probably the only position where we are ok (although every position could be better except the starting 9 and Bula is worth persistence).
Some very good points you raise.
What does Luai actually do better than Luke Brooks other than play in a champion team where he’s always had the luxury of taking a back seat and popping up when opportunity presents itself ?
Don't think it is official but reportedly 5 year deal 1mill a season.
ancient_magpie
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Lukic where have you been all my life.
davey_farrell
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i could be wrong, AFB was being chased by Fulton and Benji was focusing on Luai, now with Richo at the helm and backing Benji maybe they have had a discussion that Benji gets the say on everyone not Fulton hence the decision not to go after AFB, just my thoughts
I find the whining about the Bulldogs laughable. What top line players have they bought? Kikau last season and Crighton next. That's it. One might argue Burton and Mahoney but I'd say they are both a tier or 2 below and reportedly weren't recruited on 'overs'.
That's pretty much the equivalent of the Tigers. Koroisau and Papali'i considered top liners. Klemmer and Bateman a tier down.
We're tracking with a respectable forward pack but ordinary backline with some promising juniors. They are tracking with an ordinary pack and respectable backline with some promising juniors.
Their junior development is also tracking well with very good results in lower tiers the past season. Can't rightly expect them to develop many juniors into first graders inside 2 years of establishing their pathways.
Burton a better player with more upside and more qualities in his game than Luai.
No way man ! He was worked out big time last year . Put pressure on his kicking game , and the rest of his game goes to pieces . The nrl has worked him out , he now needs to add to his game .
I'd have them as very different players of about even overall ability. Either way, I don't see the justification for constant complaining of the Dogs recruitment.
AdelaideTiger
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Go the proton wests tigers 🐅
BAGNF05
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Burton is a great centre playing out of position.
💯 his kicking game is why people see him as a half , but you can develop plays and game plans to utilise that strength , at key moments . Because he is not a half . Not at all IMO.
AdelaideTiger
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Last year and the year before more so than this year, the were signing guys playing very well. JAC, Mahoney, even guys like Ryan Sutton were very good buys and not on stupid money for how well they were going. But as soon as they played for the dogs they looked over priced. At one stage people were saying that Mahoney should be picked in front of Harry Grant for QLD, noting that Grant was quite young at the time, but still ridiculous in hindsight. Compare that to the guys you have listed with the exception of papalii and some would say Bateman (not me) our blokes have looked just as good if not better, despite the poor result.
I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say other than the Bulldogs seem be to be in just as big a funk as we are except they are still trending down to rock bottom, I think we'll fly past them on our way up
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