Australia Day

[innsaneink]

Why can't everyone be equal? It seems as a society the Indigenous/LGBT are privileged in their treatment based on historical events that most people in the current era had no influence over. Not only does it increase racism/homophobia by 'bringing awareness' (also known as virtue signalling) but it also doesn't make actual racist/homophobic people any more educated on the matter. Acting like the rest of society and keeping your head down instead of grandstanding your woke identity will lead to equality

Im no expert but I think most people would say you dont have a clue, and unless youve experienced these discriminations yourself personally, then you'll never truly know how these people feel
I may be wrong however

 

[Spartan117]

I love Australia day.

Jan 26th is a great day as a second generation (Aussie born).

We are lucky to be part of the great nation TOGETHER

 

[rugbygoated]

Im no expert but I think most people would say you dont have a clue, and unless youve experienced these discriminations yourself personally, then you'll never truly know how these people feel
I may be wrong however

Part of my identity is one that has historically and currently been discriminated against. But instead of making a massive deal about it, I treat others with respect and all I ask for is to be treated equally

 

[cochise]

Why would anyone want our national day to be celebrated on a day that proportion of our country doesn't feel it can celebrate?

 

[rugbygoated]

Except moving it won't help.
The activists won't be happy until the day only celebrates Aboriginal people ... and those claiming to be Aboriginal.
You should check out some of the radical indigenous sites ... they hate the white fella and don't think kindly about just about anybody else who has come here since.
They don't even class themselves as Australian.
Oddly enough most have probably the same (or more) white fella genes in them than aboriginal.

Based on personal experience, I have found that Aboriginals and White people are the two most racist groups in Australia. Regional areas a breeding ground for xenophobia and 'bogan' attitudes

 

[Kaito]

Why would anyone want our national day to be celebrated on a day that proportion of our country doesn't feel it can celebrate?

Same ppl that want to 2 keep the date r the same
folks that speak about entitlement & 'togetherness'.
The irony is lost on some people, unfortunately.

 

[Buttface]

January is perfect. I'd be open to a change of date to the 25th. Don't think it's a big deal especially if it impacts an important community to Australia's history and identity where they can't celebrate their nation on the same day that invasion and genocide occurred. In saying that, I think it's ignorant to think that the civilisation that Australia has become (forced or not) is not something we should be sorry for, one of the best countries on Earth, and a lot of that is due to Western civilisation being brought here (at least pre-2010s)

I have the answer to the date thing. Instead of having an actual date it should be the last Friday in January or the first Monday in February, that way we always get a long weekend. Simple. Anyway it’s unAustralian not to have a long weekend public holiday.

 

[rugbygoated]

Can't stand the word 'woke', overused like the
word 'anti-semitic'. Now which one of you
bogans on here are going to be wearing rubber
aussie flip flops with flags & cheap plastic cups
made in China? Lmao. Such a beat-up holiday

Australia Day is an awesome day that celebrates Australians of all walks of life. Disabled, gay, white, religious, rich, poor, women, minority. It celebrates everything great about being an Aussie. I don't think it's exclusive of any Australian group. It's a day that should bring the nation together. And that's why it's important. As well as having a public holiday...

 

[Kaito]

Like, wouldn't you want everyone to celebrate
Oz day? I sure as shit would. That would b cool.
Some members of society want others to get
over it - fit in or f off. That's the problem though.

 

[Winston Churchill]

It has an obvious definition that has been hijacked and now bastardised.
Started off as being simply alert to racial injustice and prejudices. Then was expanded to include other groups by activists from the LGBTQ community and radical feminists. Now it’s been twisted to the point that it’s become an ideaology that can’t be met.

"Woke" - a state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behaviour.

Seems to be the perfect definition.

 

[Kaito]

Australia Day is an awesome day that celebrates Australians of all walks of life. Disabled, gay, white, religious, rich, poor, women, minority. It celebrates everything great about being an Aussie. I don't think it's exclusive of any Australian group. It's a day that should bring the nation together. And that's why it's important. As well as having a public holiday...

Agree with ur sentiments. Especially the last part lol

 

[innsaneink]

Part of my identity is one that has historically and currently been discriminated against. But instead of making a massive deal about it, I treat others with respect and all I ask for is to be treated equally

Not when you call out people for ''grandstanding their identity'' and not keeping their head down

 

[rugbygoated]

I think I know where ur coming from BUT u say all the world could have been joined , then u stated WE owe them , why do we owe them , over two hundred years ago that’s what happened if u couldn’t defend ur land u lost it , if it wasn’t the poms it could have 5-6 other countries and the out come could have been worse for them , it’s strange we can debate things but with the actives don’t want to debate anything they just push there hate and what they want because of what happened two hundred years ago . Just a side story 90 years ago we hated the Japanese for there brutality but now they are good trading partners and allies, funny how we forgive in just 90 years yet they still hate us for two hundred years ago

It's really weird because Nazi Germany committed mass genocide of a particular group from different countries but Germans don't get tarnished with the same brush that British do in regards to colonisation and bettering the societies overseas

 

[rugbygoated]

Not when you call out people for ''grandstanding their identity'' and not keeping their head down

That's exactly what it is. It's not genuine and intentionally disrupts innocent people in society trying to go about their day without being forced to believe something from early ages or in environments when it is highly irrelevant

 

[Winston Churchill]

We had it. It just wasn't a big deal.
It only really became a huge thing during the bicentennial, before that we just enjoyed the public holiday.

I don't really remember it being a thing either. I think 88' The Bicentennial is when it took off and went hard core in the 90s. The lamb ads of the 2000's and now apparently its a lefty talking point to be outraged about for a couple of weeks in January before they go back to not giving a shit. 1st world problems. Whatever one can find to give themselves some sort of self importance I guess.

 

[rugbygoated]

Just seemed like you had something to say about it judging by your post.

You said it was a beat up holiday. Went on talk about bogans wearing rubber aussie flip flops with flags and cheap plastic cups made in China. Most countries have these things for sale on their national day with their national flag and colours...maybe even Lebanon?

Every country, for their faults or otherwise, has a national day. The people get out and buy hats, flags, flip flops, paint their face, meet friends, spend time with family....whatever makes them feel good. I don't see it as a beat up that people want to celebrate the country they live in.

In the same way people celebrate Diwali festival, LGBT pride parades, Christmas, Easter, Independence Day, etc.

 

[innsaneink]

That's exactly what it is. It's not genuine and intentionally disrupts innocent people in society trying to go about their day without being forced to believe something from early ages or in environments when it is highly irrelevant

I think youre looking at a very small snapshot of a much bigger picture...part of why this countrys so great is we can express ourselves without having to hide, keep our heads down which is what you want

 

[Winston Churchill]

I've compiled a short list of reasons why some
folks aren't as enthusiastic about celebrating
Australia day on the 26th for your consideration:

1. *Cultural Insensitivity*: The date marks the arrival of the First Fleet in 1788, which led to the dispossession and suffering of Indigenous Australians. Celebrating on this date can be seen as culturally insensitive.

2. *Invasion Day Perspective*: For many Indigenous Australians, January 26th is known as "Invasion Day" or "Survival Day," highlighting the negative impact of European colonization on their communities.

3. *Historical Trauma*: The date represents a painful history for Indigenous people, including violence, forced removal of children, and the destruction of their cultures. Celebrating on this day may perpetuate historical trauma.

4. *Call for Reconciliation*: Advocates for change argue that choosing a different, more inclusive date for Australia Day could be a step towards reconciliation and acknowledgment of the historical injustices.

5. *Diverse National Identity*: Australia is a diverse nation with a rich tapestry of cultures. Choosing a date that represents unity and inclusion for all Australians can better reflect the country's multicultural identity.

6. *Shift in Public Opinion*: There is a growing awareness and support for changing the date among Australians who recognize the need to respect Indigenous perspectives and promote a more inclusive national celebration.

7. *International Perception*: Celebrating on a date associated with colonial history may affect how Australia is perceived internationally, potentially hindering efforts to foster positive relationships with Indigenous communities and other nations.

Can we bring back the sick emoji?

 

[rugbygoated]

I think youre looking at a very small snapshot of a much bigger picture...part of why this countrys so great is we can express ourselves without having to hide, keep our heads down which is what you want

Everyone has a right to express themselves. This isn't a communist society... yet. But that also means that you are not free from consequences. There's a thing called hate speech that is redefined every day which can be as simple as refusing to accept new language that is absurd and an insult to reality and science. By 'keep your head down' I didn't mean everyone should be robots, I mean go about your work and day without seeking attention and sooking about your situation constantly when there are far bigger issues at hand

 

[bptiger 0]

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The recent Woolies outrage is a massive overreaction. And I'm more of a centrist. Sales are down for it and it isn't even produced in Australia

I heard on the radio that Woolworths have a aboriginal advisory body and that is why they scrap aust day stuff