Adam Doueihi #227

AD is now a lock,... or he'll be working in Super League. After 3 recos, he's no longer a half, centre, or fullback. He's on our books this year, so playing him at 14 or 13 makes sense, when he's ready.

If we don't beat the Knights tomorrow, our year is shot, so Benji needs to test combinations and AD should be part of that equation.
 
AmericanHistoryX said:
"I actually think he is too slow to be a good 6 but quick enough to be a good centre".. I dont understand Greg...
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He is fast he just takes a long time to get to top speed. At 6 you get the ball nowhere near top speed and need to use acceleration. At centre you can run onto the ball and receive the ball at close to top speed.
AmericanHistoryX said:
He has demonstrated loyalty... hasn't he?
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No. He (reportedly) shopped himself to all and sundry when he was last off contract. When he had no takers he re-signed with the Tigers for just the one year, showing he intended to shop himself again.
 
gregjm87 said:
He is fast he just takes a long time to get to top speed. At 6 you get the ball nowhere near top speed and need to use acceleration. At centre you can run onto the ball and receive the ball at close to top speed.

No. He (reportedly) shopped himself to all and sundry when he was last off contract. When he had no takers he re-signed with the Tigers for just the one year, showing he intended to shop himself again.
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Benji should be able to work out his best position considering his current rehab schedule.

If not, then he'll jog on.
 
Buttface said:
I don’t think he’s ever played 13 in his life. Where is he gunna get the tenacity, work rate, and ability to tackle that’s required to play lock at this late stage of his career, after 3 knee reconstructions?
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You're right, but he's only 25. An ACL tear is difficult, let alone three but Thurston, Inglis, Johnson and Cronk all came back from theirs.

We're in desperate need of a ball-playing lock, and while he often got found out in defense, his tackling stats (83%) aren't that bad. He's got the body to play second row and he's crafty enough to play like a second 5/8.

Otherwise it's 14, because I can't see him playing 1, 4 or 6.
 
Leck said:
You're right, but he's only 25. An ACL tear is difficult, let alone three but Thurston, Inglis, Johnson and Cronk all came back from theirs.

We're in desperate need of a ball-playing lock, and while he often got found out in defense, his tackling stats (83%) aren't that bad. He's got the body to play second row and he's crafty enough to play like a second 5/8.

Otherwise it's 14, because I can't see him playing 1, 4 or 6.
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14 needs to be given to TDS in the future, he needs to be replacing Api
Bateman can move to centres if we have injury
 
Buttface said:
I don’t think he’s ever played 13 in his life. Where is he gunna get the tenacity, work rate, and ability to tackle that’s required to play lock at this late stage of his career, after 3 knee reconstructions?
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I don't think the fact he has never played there means he can't. Most backs who move to the forwards have never played there. Lawrence, Yeo, Ricketson etc. Definitely questions over his tenacity to handle the move though, agree on that.
 
The workload for locks would be way too much for Douehi and your a liability as a lock unless you are prepared to defend He is a good ball runner and I think centre is his best position. Doubt he will ever be known for his defence unless he is prepared to work on it which plenty of other players have done successfully.
 
Leck said:
You're right, but he's only 25. An ACL tear is difficult, let alone three but Thurston, Inglis, Johnson and Cronk all came back from theirs.

We're in desperate need of a ball-playing lock, and while he often got found out in defense, his tackling stats (83%) aren't that bad. He's got the body to play second row and he's crafty enough to play like a second 5/8.

Otherwise it's 14, because I can't see him playing 1, 4 or 6.
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Douehi is a long way from the calibre of those players. He’s a lazy bludger who hopes someone else will do the job so he’ll be on the end of a win. Those players were do’ers. But the fact that you’re happy with 83% says to me that you and I have two very different expectations on what is an acceptable standard. Douehi needs to be cut asap so a player worthy of a top 30 spot can be added to the roster. Hopefully he gets a gig elsewhere so he can ruin someone else’s roster for a while.
 
king_sirro said:
I don't think the fact he has never played there means he can't. Most backs who move to the forwards have never played there. Lawrence, Yeo, Ricketson etc. Definitely questions over his tenacity to handle the move though, agree on that.
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Let’s cut him and spend his 600k on an actual lock instead of another project. He’s wasted a top 30 spot in our roster for too long, actually he’s been a complete failure since he’s been here. He was bought to play FB, he was given heaps of time and support, and was so bad we had to move him and buy another FB. Did he give back some of his money? No, he then stank it up in every other position we have gifted him trying to find out what he’s good at. Now people wanna gift him an important role like lock, the blokes a hog, and shown little to no idea on how to setup his outside men. I can’t see it and TBH, I can’t wait to see him stinking up someone else’s roster.
 
Buttface said:
Let’s cut him and spend his 600k on an actual lock instead of another project. He’s wasted a top 30 spot in our roster for too long, actually he’s been a complete failure since he’s been here. He was bought to play FB, he was given heaps of time and support, and was so bad we had to move him and buy another FB. Did he give back some of his money? No, he then stank it up in every other position we have gifted him trying to find out what he’s good at. Now people wanna gift him an important role like lock, the blokes a hog, and shown little to no idea on how to setup his outside men. I can’t see it and TBH, I can’t wait to see him stinking up someone else’s roster.
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I'm not against cutting him, but there is no reason to make that decision now. He is not going to command what he is on now again, not next year anyway. He will cost about 300k I'd say, that isn't going to make a difference to our signings for next year. He has the backend of the year to show if he is worth keeping at a reduced rate. We haven't had many players that can make a break out of nothing and Doueihi can, so why rush the decision. He may just mature into a very good backrower if Benji decides to try it.

I've been highly critical of the heart he has shown at times, but IMO he carries the ball stronger then any backrower we have, so let's wait and see.

I personally don't want him at lock. He is a hole runner with a bit of skill. Edge backrow only.
 
In a team where we almost universally bemoan the lack of good impact from our centres, it is a little funny watching everyone want to take potentially the most natural centre we have & make him a backrower because we are all internet doctors, writing off his physical abilities due to injuries we are all, clearly, experts in.
 
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