I suggest you find the episode of 💯 Footy from early this season where Gould himself stated the Salary Cap rules have changed where you can now pay a player out who is under contract but no longer wanted by the club and only a portion of the payout comes off the clubs Salary Cap.
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Tom Shines
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mate… with respect ..it’s your argument ..not mine … so you can do the searching and I’ll be happy to watch it
the main reason the salary cap was brought in was to “protect” clubs from overspending and going broke … if you can just pay out a guys contract to walk away with no repercussions….that doesn’t really seem to gel with that ideal
There still are repercussions, but it’s a percentage and less which overall Gould stating is less than half of the players contract value.
AceofSpades
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Broncos utility back looking to test open market
He is contracted until the end of the 2025 season.
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Tristan Sailor looking to negotiate elsewhere from Nov 1 as he's stuck behind Mam, Walsh, Madden. Would be a handy player to have imo
Yeah watch out if you upset the Greek Mafia you'll wake up the next morning and a half eaten souvlaki beside you in bed.
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I think Roosters probably are cheating the cap but I think all clubs probably are in some way. I largely agree that the sooking about them isn't warranted however. Sure they have bugger all local juniors but their junior area is very limited. Thus they have to look elsewhere.
Even though he is from NZ someone like Manu I believe is every bit a Roosters junior as Campbelltown kid would be for us. He's been with the club since he was 14. The Roosters helped with his footballing development and schooling then brought him through their junior pathways. That is exactly what a club would do with any local junior.
The side last night had 9 players that debuted at the club. A few came through their pathways, a few didn't get a look in at their junior club and went looking for an opportunity elsewhere and a few were star juniors head hunted by the club. I'd say that is pretty much how every teams line up would look.
Betterdays22
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Roosters consistently perform about as well as any other club from Matts through to First Grade. Its lazy to say they solely "buy" premierships. Yes many of the juniors are not local, but they clearly have excellent talent scouts and recruiters and have shown they can develop players into proper first graders.
BAGNF05
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Yes talent scouts 💰
Tedesco, Smith, walker, Hargraves, Collins, Leniu, dreadlocks, May, Keery, and there are a couple of others that escape me. Where did they all come from? Compare that lot to any 9 players of the other clubs. Note- did not include Manu.
Salary cap manipulation? Creative accounting? Who knows?
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The Chad
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Watching last night I couldn't help but think, if we replaced Utoikamanu with Corey Horsborough..
weststigers
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Melbourne have an amazing ability to turn relatively good players into top NRL halves. I don't think they've had a season without a competitive halves combination.
hank37w
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But can he do Rugba Leeg? 🤣
liltiger
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You sure it's not being paid by 3rd party sponsors which are not included in the cap. The sponsor pays them out and it clears the cap space for the dogs to sign someone else using the freed up cap space. Or the dogs are still paying them in the cap and a 3rd party sponsor is just paying for the new signing outright outside of the cap.
No Gould specifically stated the rules had changed and it’s no longer the case where a club is hamstrung in way of cap space when paying out or releasing a player they no longer want or need. He specifically said there is still a percentage the club will lose in way of cap space, but not the full amount like it once was.
liltiger
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Damn why aren't we on that gravy train
I think you will find Richo is holding off still in hope that the unwanted contracted players on our roster for 2025 and beyond will eventually find another club to take on their full wages, but if that doesn’t eventuate he will pay them out
BAGNF05
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It’s a simple game and Belly ache is best at teaching kids this.
Cap money is cap money. In your example it would be if a portion of the players contract was made up of third party deals.
In the case of Gould and Laundry; I think you’ve found your loophole.
hank37w
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Nah, we couldn't do that, we have no money, didn't we make a loss?
Mind you, this is despite Richo coming out and saying that with the funding that the clubs get these days, you would have to be a moron to make a loss.
I guess you'd have to talk to the recently departed management team to find out how they managed to do that, maybe there was a drop in hat sales. 🤣
It’s not lazy at all . The year they bought Tedesco , they also added Cronk. The issue isn’t that they can offer overs and want to spend the money , I personally don’t care .
The issue is the lack of transparency, and regulations around it . Like every other sport with a salary cap . The “well if they do , so should we” is a lazy argument . The opportunities might not be available .
And in a completion regulated by a salary cap , being able to offer more money external of that cap is ridiculous . It undermines the whole thing .
It should be transparent , and obvious , and allowed with regulations like a luxury tax.
It allows clubs like the roosters to spend whatever they want , but also provides enough penalties to allow something akin to parity . And if the roosters screw up and chuck good money at bad … well then you have the NY Yankees of the last 20 years . Paying the tax , and having a mediocre team on the paddock .
For the billionth time , it’s not about the fact they can pay overs , it’s about all the bullshit that goes with that , and the undermining of the game .
As I’ve said previously even FIFA understand this , with “fair play” rules in place . Despite those rules being toothless at the moment . ( I think man city have like 200 fines )
