John Bateman #268

Tigers4ever said:
Big fan of John Bateman. Always gives his best. The same as Api. Agree both should be given breaks during the games for more impact. We can see the boys are putting in the effort but not smooth in attack and it shows. We all know John has a very strong accent and I think it would have been better if Api was questioning Kasey if he had played. A tricky one as John deserved the captaincy but needed another player to put questions to the ref. Can the vice-captain do that if it occurs again. It would have helped us for sure.
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You make a good point, clearly she did not understand the rules, how the f#%k was she ever going to understand Bateman.
 
Tigers4ever said:
Big fan of John Bateman. Always gives his best. The same as Api. Agree both should be given breaks during the games for more impact. We can see the boys are putting in the effort but not smooth in attack and it shows. We all know John has a very strong accent and I think it would have been better if Api was questioning Kasey if he had played. A tricky one as John deserved the captaincy but needed another player to put questions to the ref. Can the vice-captain do that if it occurs again. It would have helped us for sure.
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An interpretor?
 
Kelce68 said:
Bateman is the very player we need in the club; someone who cares about the result.

Benji's focus on 'the process' and 'not just about wins and losses' might sound like a modern, revolutionary methodology, but it has the propensity to breed complacency amongst those young players learning what it means to be professional.

You can only earn the right to a laidback approach after you've proven you can put it all on the line.
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Disagree.
Benji got this approach from Sheens and any coach teaching young fellas would follow the same path.
You can't get to the final result be it a W or a L...
Let's call it (the final result) step 5 & the kick off step 1
You can't go from 1 to 5 without completing 2, 3 & 4
I know it sounds simplistic but this middle steps are minimise errors, Complete sets, kick & chase well etc etc all the facets of the game.
You get that all this middle steps correct or do it well & your result more often than not will be a positive one.
 
innsaneink said:
Disagree.
Benji got this approach from Sheens and any coach teaching young fellas would follow the same path.
You can't get to the final result be it a W or a L...
Let's call it (the final result) step 5 & the kick off step 1
You can't go from 1 to 5 without completing 2, 3 & 4
I know it sounds simplistic but this middle steps are minimise errors, Complete sets, kick & chase well etc etc all the facets of the game.
You get that all this middle steps correct or do it well & your result more often than not will be a positive one.
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Im not saying other parts of the game don't matter, I'm saying zero focus on the result can breed complacency in certain personality types.

You always start with the end result in mind and reverse engineer off that.

The end result should be victory.

Always.
 
Every single time these guys take the field they are both in our worst 4 or 5 players. Often being the absolute worst two.

Klemmer is at his prime age yet is regressing at record rate.

And Bateman, well honestly what do you say? This guy is the worst player in the NRL. He simply makes us winning more and more difficult with every appearance.

I honestly can't watch another Tigers game that John Bateman plays.
Benji needs to show how badly he wants us to succeed. It starts this week by naming Bateman and Klemmer in reserve grade. If both are in the NRL then he can't make the tough calls.
 
king_sirro said:
Every single time these guys take the field they are both in our worst 4 or 5 players. Often being the absolute worst two.

Klemmer is at his prime age yet is regressing at record rate.

And Bateman, well honestly what do you say? This guy is the worst player in the NRL. He simply makes us winning more and more difficult with every appearance.

I honestly can't watch another Tigers game that John Bateman plays.
Benji needs to show how badly he wants us to succeed. It starts this week by naming Bateman and Klemmer in reserve grade. If both are in the NRL then he can't make the tough calls.
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Huh ? No question that Bateman was in our top 3 players tonight.
 
king_sirro said:
Every single time these guys take the field they are both in our worst 4 or 5 players. Often being the absolute worst two.

Klemmer is at his prime age yet is regressing at record rate.

And Bateman, well honestly what do you say? This guy is the worst player in the NRL. He simply makes us winning more and more difficult with every appearance.

I honestly can't watch another Tigers game that John Bateman plays.
Benji needs to show how badly he wants us to succeed. It starts this week by naming Bateman and Klemmer in reserve grade. If both are in the NRL then he can't make the tough calls.
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Bateman was the second best forward on the field after Pole. A couple of late errors. Best game he has played for us this year.
 
TYGA said:
Bateman was the second best forward on the field after Pole. A couple of late errors. Best game he has played for us this year.
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Bateman was ok overall (for him). His first 2 runs were pathetic and got manhandled, his 3rd he threw a risky offload that went forward but the ref let it go. He let Wishart run straight past him which lead to a try (he has done that all year), he took numerous wrong options going the blind in the 2nd half, he dropped the ball late for no reason. As a leader his game was disgusting. If a rookie with upside played like that then yea, ok maybe you stick, but this guy is detrimental to the team in a massive way as an experienced leader
 
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king_sirro said:
Every single time these guys take the field they are both in our worst 4 or 5 players. Often being the absolute worst two.

Klemmer is at his prime age yet is regressing at record rate.

And Bateman, well honestly what do you say? This guy is the worst player in the NRL. He simply makes us winning more and more difficult with every appearance.

I honestly can't watch another Tigers game that John Bateman plays.
Benji needs to show how badly he wants us to succeed. It starts this week by naming Bateman and Klemmer in reserve grade. If both are in the NRL then he can't make the tough calls.
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You picked the wrong night to be calling out Bateman. Sure, he didn't finish well, but he got on top of Blore tonight, which from all reports has not been that often since he was allowed to leave.
 
Just to be clear, I judge Bateman on being an international, our vice captain, and one of our highest paid players.

For his experience he let's us down everytime he takes the field.

If Sam Fainu had the exact game Bateman had tonight I would be saying "stick with him, he is young and will get the lapses out of his game and improve", but this isn't a 20 year old rookie is he, so he shouldn't be judged as such.

For what he is, a highly paid, experienced international leader he is a let down to youngsters trying their hearts out.
 
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