Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Mate it's almost 4 in the morning I will talk about them later today

But after many friends died of cancer I started reading up on cancer for many years At one stage I had 3 friends die of cancer over a 12 week period

One person I helped is still alive after I went toe to toe with the head of cancer at Sutherland hospital

If you get chemotherapy your death rate is in the high 90 percent for most cancers

They use to keep record of them amount of people who live more then 2 years that didn't have chemotherapy and they stopped doing that because it made the chemo look bad

But I will post later today but cancer is a metabolic disease first think cut all carbs cancer fuel is carbs it doesn't run on a ketogenic diet
You are 100% correct, read Dr Seyfried for the latest Independent research. Big Pharma who fund doctors education research make so much money from chemo that they dont want cures to be known. Most peoples faith in the Medical System Industry is foolishly misplaced but that is all most people, including our politicians know!
 
We need another 5-6 signings from outside the club as we currently don't have much quality in the club ready to contribute at NRL level anytime soon.

This also necessitates releasing a lot of dead wood, eg Toa, Naden, Feledy, Faatape, Tumeth, Sullivan, Sukkar, maybe Seyfarth and possibly someone like Kit (who should only be on a development contract)
In my opinion Feledy is a decent chance of becoming a good NRL player. I know he’s on the small side and not overly fast, but he runs the ball aggressively and is a genuine tackle breaker. He also hits top speed quickly and is fast over the first 10-30 metres. His defence is a work in progress, but is decent for a 19 year old centre.
I honestly believe he has much more upside than Faatape, Luke Laulilli or Saukuru.
I would say there would be a few rival clubs willing to take Feledy off our hands and put him in their top 30 if we didn’t want him.
 
You are 100% correct, read Dr Seyfried for the latest Independent research. Big Pharma who fund doctors education research make so much money from chemo that they dont want cures to be known. Most peoples faith in the Medical System Industry is foolishly misplaced but that is all most people, including our politicians know!
What about the guy from I think Oxford University that took 200 million pounds about 10 years ago to say statins are good when they are the worst thing for you
 
You are 100% correct, read Dr Seyfried for the latest Independent research. Big Pharma who fund doctors education research make so much money from chemo that they dont want cures to be known. Most peoples faith in the Medical System Industry is foolishly misplaced but that is all most people, including our politicians know!
And yet the world’s richest man died of pancreatic cancer… but he just wasn’t in the loop I guess. He should have watched more YouTube.
 
In my opinion Feledy is a decent chance of becoming a good NRL player. I know he’s on the small side and not overly fast, but he runs the ball aggressively and is a genuine tackle breaker. He also hits top speed quickly and is fast over the first 10-30 metres. His defence is a work in progress, but is decent for a 19 year old centre.
I honestly believe he has much more upside than Faatape, Luke Laulilli or Saukuru.
I would say there would be a few rival clubs willing to take Feledy off our hands and put him in their top 30 if we didn’t want him.

Feledy has good strength and aggression. I could see him having a role in the NRL as a nugget coming off the bench in the middle to provide some spark. Also covering 9 and injuries outwide. IMO if he turned his attention to this role he could contribute strongly to some team.

I don't believe coaches look outside the square often enough when trying to get something out of a player. I've always been a big deliver the stronger outside backs make very good forwards if they have the motor, (think Dylan Walker, Luke Lewis, Chris Lawrence, Ruben Wiki, Luke Ricketson, Isaiah Yeo and Tyran Smith, all started as outside backs). Someone of Feledy's stature could train to cover 9 easily, cover injuries to the backs, while his main role is to come on at lock against tiring defence with leg speed and quick play the balls.
 
We need another 5-6 signings from outside the club as we currently don't have much quality in the club ready to contribute at NRL level anytime soon.

This also necessitates releasing a lot of dead wood, eg Toa, Naden, Feledy, Faatape, Tumeth, Sullivan, Sukkar, maybe Seyfarth and possibly someone like Kit (who should only be on a development contract)
Releasing players with existing contracts is extremely difficult if they do not have an option to earn the same money with some other team.
 
Feledy has good strength and aggression. I could see him having a role in the NRL as a nugget coming off the bench in the middle to provide some spark. Also covering 9 and injuries outwide. IMO if he turned his attention to this role he could contribute strongly to some team.

I don't believe coaches look outside the square often enough when trying to get something out of a player. I've always been a big deliver the stronger outside backs make very good forwards if they have the motor, (think Dylan Walker, Luke Lewis, Chris Lawrence, Ruben Wiki, Luke Ricketson, Isaiah Yeo and Tyran Smith, all started as outside backs). Someone of Feledy's stature could train to cover 9 easily, cover injuries to the backs, while his main role is to come on at lock against tiring defence with leg speed and quick play the balls.
He reminds me of a young Euan Aitken,
 
Feledy has good strength and aggression. I could see him having a role in the NRL as a nugget coming off the bench in the middle to provide some spark. Also covering 9 and injuries outwide. IMO if he turned his attention to this role he could contribute strongly to some team.

I don't believe coaches look outside the square often enough when trying to get something out of a player. I've always been a big deliver the stronger outside backs make very good forwards if they have the motor, (think Dylan Walker, Luke Lewis, Chris Lawrence, Ruben Wiki, Luke Ricketson, Isaiah Yeo and Tyran Smith, all started as outside backs). Someone of Feledy's stature could train to cover 9 easily, cover injuries to the backs, while his main role is to come on at lock against tiring defence with leg speed and quick play the balls.
Sheens was the master of playing players in a different position
 
Sheens was the master of playing players in a different position
I think it has plenty of merit.
Feledy and Faatape are both players who rip in and give their best, but lack a bit of size, height and elite speed that is ideally required to become top class NRL centres.
Both appear to be committed and intelligent young players who could potentially become more versatile and be very valuable utilities who could cover the backs, dummy half or back row.
 
I think it has plenty of merit.
Feledy and Faatape are both players who rip in and give their best, but lack a bit of size, height and elite speed that is ideally required to become top class NRL centres.
Both appear to be committed and intelligent young players who could potentially become more versatile and be very valuable utilities who could cover the backs, dummy half or back row.
I believe it has merit aswell but was just plugging sheens as he was never afraid to try something
 

How Fonua Pole, Wests Tigers Victorian tyro, became the most underrated player in the NRL​

By Nick Campton
Posted 1h ago1 hours ago
A man runs the ball during a rugby league match


Fonua Pole has become one of the best young forwards in the NRL since debuting two years ago. (Getty Images: Mark Evans )


In modern times, it's hard for any NRL player to truly be underrated.
With a greater focus on the game than ever before, the saviour complex which has sunk many a player's career before it even gets started and the all-pervasive influence of fantasy sports, nobody can really fly under the radar for too long anymore.
Being underrated really is a moment in time. Penrith's Scott Sorensen was underrated for the Panthers first premiership, but not for the next two. Newcastle's Leo Thompson was overlooked for a while, but not now he's played for New Zealand.
Even the less heralded types — like Melbourne's Josh King, or Gold Coast's Brian Kelly — eventually, or at least occasionally, get their fair share of accolades. In modern rugby league it just isn't easy to stay underrated for long.
But somehow, young Wests Tigers prop Fonua Pole is managing it — although if he keeps playing like this it won't stay that way for much longer.
Pole has been around long enough that keen-eyed fans might already be familiar with the 22-year old's work. He made his NRL debut two years ago and Friday's clash with the Sharks will mark his 50th first grade appearance.
But in a sport where everybody knows everything about everybody and runs on feeding the hype machine early and often, Pole's excellent work in the middle of the field for the Tigers means he's as close as we're going to get.
The Tigers might still be struggling for consistent victories but given Pole is averaging more metres than the likes of Queensland Origin prop Lindsay Collins, Penrith hard man Moses Leota and Tigers teammate Stefano Utoikamanu, working out why he can still claim the underrated tag isn't easy.
Part of it might be that he's still so young – even after 50 games, he still feels like he's establishing himself.
A man runs the ball during a rugby league match


Pole will play his 50th NRL game on Friday.(Getty Images: Cameron Spencer )
"I didn't even notice how quick the time has gone since my debut. I'm grateful just to get one game, especially for this club," Pole said.
"I still feel like I haven't played that much. That's my personality a bit, I'm always looking to learn. I still get that buzz every game, it's always the same feeling."
Or it might be that Pole's footy background is different than most. He's a rare Victorian junior who's made it to first grade and only took up rugby league because his mother didn't like how his Aussie rules games, which were played on Sundays, clashed with church.
Were Pole raised in New South Wales or Queensland, the first inklings of State of Origin hype would be swirling around him and that's as sure a way as any of knowing a player is far from underrated.
But Pole is Victorian through and through which made it fitting that he played one of the best games of his career against the Storm last week.
Pole scored a try, ran for 167m, broke seven tackles and made 21 without a miss in just over 60 minutes of game time. It typified the high-minute, high-output, hard-nosed brand of football which is fast becoming his trademark.

The Storm got up 40-28 with Pole's close friend and fellow Victorian junior Sua Fa'alogo scoring a double, but it was a reminder of just what the Tigers found when they spotted Pole playing for a Combined Affiliate States team at the Australian Schoolboys Championships a few years ago.
"I'm just grateful Mum dropped me off at rugby training that day," Pole said.
"In my age group you couldn't really see a pathway but that's easier now and it's great for Melbourne.
"I'm good mates with Sua, I wanted to slap him after he got his try, he gave a little cheeky look to Jahream Bula.
"I always keep an eye on the Melbourne juniors coming through, it's great to see kids from the community chase their dreams."
Perhaps Pole doesn't get the shine he's fast deserving because of his front row partner Stefano Utoikamanu who has attracted much publicity since deciding to test the open market and potentially leave the club.

The two are close mates, with Pole counting Utoikamanu as one of the biggest influences on his career.
"We train a lot together, I've picked up on his habits and we're building a good combination," Pole said.
"That contributes a lot, learning off the big boppers like Klem (David Klemmer) and Stef, that's helping me show my game.
"We do a lot of extras and we focus on details. Everything we do, on the field or in the gym, we always compete against each other and that gets the buzz going.
Pole is slightly ahead of Utoikamanu when it comes to average metres a game but the latter has him covered when it comes to defensive work rate, offloads and tackle busts.
Utoikamanu has also helped Pole with the finer details of front-row play – contrary to popular belief, there's a lot more to it than just running into people or having them run into you.
"Defence, you have to think about which way you're flipping back after a tackle, especially if you're the third man in," Pole said.
"If you flip the wrong way, without thinking, it can cause an underlap or an overlap.

"Making the effort to get the defender onto your right shoulder, making sure you step in to contact, buying time on the ground for the rest of the team — there's more to it than people think."​

With a mind like that, the strength and mobility to back it up and the drive that's taken him from one of rugby league's frontiers all the way to the big time, Pole's status as the most underrated player in rugby league won't last long.
Come November, he'll be a free agent for 2026 and there will be no shortage of clubs keen on landing him.
Pole says he hasn't thought much about his future beyond next season but he's currently loving life at the Tigers and while he might be underrated by most, coach Benji Marshall knows exactly what he's got on his hands.
"I love it here. If Tigers want me to stay here, I'd gladly stay, but I'll see about that when the time comes," Pole said.
"Benji understands us young kids coming through, he's easy to get on with and he knows when to be serious. He's given me confidence in myself, sometimes I struggle with that.
"But he tells me all the time he believes I can be more than I am, that I can be one of the best front-rowers in the game."
 
Wrapped he's loving life at the Tigers and working under Benji. Wrapped Benji rates him aswell. This is the guy we need to build our go forward and pack around. I'd just pull Steph's contract, if he wants to enact his clause to stay another year fine. I'd use the spare cash to make sure we resign Pole longterm. Next year offer Steph a new contract with what ever is left. If he goes who cares. It's not worth losing Pole longterm so Steph can test the open market. I know we have till November but I'd just get it done now. Pole wants to stay and wear the jersey. He sounds like he don't care about what other clubs might offer him. Let's get it done.
 

How Fonua Pole, Wests Tigers Victorian tyro, became the most underrated player in the NRL​

By Nick Campton
Posted 1h ago1 hours ago
A man runs the ball during a rugby league match


Fonua Pole has become one of the best young forwards in the NRL since debuting two years ago. (Getty Images: Mark Evans )


In modern times, it's hard for any NRL player to truly be underrated.
With a greater focus on the game than ever before, the saviour complex which has sunk many a player's career before it even gets started and the all-pervasive influence of fantasy sports, nobody can really fly under the radar for too long anymore.
Being underrated really is a moment in time. Penrith's Scott Sorensen was underrated for the Panthers first premiership, but not for the next two. Newcastle's Leo Thompson was overlooked for a while, but not now he's played for New Zealand.
Even the less heralded types — like Melbourne's Josh King, or Gold Coast's Brian Kelly — eventually, or at least occasionally, get their fair share of accolades. In modern rugby league it just isn't easy to stay underrated for long.
But somehow, young Wests Tigers prop Fonua Pole is managing it — although if he keeps playing like this it won't stay that way for much longer.
Pole has been around long enough that keen-eyed fans might already be familiar with the 22-year old's work. He made his NRL debut two years ago and Friday's clash with the Sharks will mark his 50th first grade appearance.
But in a sport where everybody knows everything about everybody and runs on feeding the hype machine early and often, Pole's excellent work in the middle of the field for the Tigers means he's as close as we're going to get.
The Tigers might still be struggling for consistent victories but given Pole is averaging more metres than the likes of Queensland Origin prop Lindsay Collins, Penrith hard man Moses Leota and Tigers teammate Stefano Utoikamanu, working out why he can still claim the underrated tag isn't easy.
Part of it might be that he's still so young – even after 50 games, he still feels like he's establishing himself.
A man runs the ball during a rugby league match


Pole will play his 50th NRL game on Friday.(Getty Images: Cameron Spencer )
"I didn't even notice how quick the time has gone since my debut. I'm grateful just to get one game, especially for this club," Pole said.
"I still feel like I haven't played that much. That's my personality a bit, I'm always looking to learn. I still get that buzz every game, it's always the same feeling."
Or it might be that Pole's footy background is different than most. He's a rare Victorian junior who's made it to first grade and only took up rugby league because his mother didn't like how his Aussie rules games, which were played on Sundays, clashed with church.
Were Pole raised in New South Wales or Queensland, the first inklings of State of Origin hype would be swirling around him and that's as sure a way as any of knowing a player is far from underrated.
But Pole is Victorian through and through which made it fitting that he played one of the best games of his career against the Storm last week.
Pole scored a try, ran for 167m, broke seven tackles and made 21 without a miss in just over 60 minutes of game time. It typified the high-minute, high-output, hard-nosed brand of football which is fast becoming his trademark.

The Storm got up 40-28 with Pole's close friend and fellow Victorian junior Sua Fa'alogo scoring a double, but it was a reminder of just what the Tigers found when they spotted Pole playing for a Combined Affiliate States team at the Australian Schoolboys Championships a few years ago.
"I'm just grateful Mum dropped me off at rugby training that day," Pole said.
"In my age group you couldn't really see a pathway but that's easier now and it's great for Melbourne.
"I'm good mates with Sua, I wanted to slap him after he got his try, he gave a little cheeky look to Jahream Bula.
"I always keep an eye on the Melbourne juniors coming through, it's great to see kids from the community chase their dreams."
Perhaps Pole doesn't get the shine he's fast deserving because of his front row partner Stefano Utoikamanu who has attracted much publicity since deciding to test the open market and potentially leave the club.

The two are close mates, with Pole counting Utoikamanu as one of the biggest influences on his career.
"We train a lot together, I've picked up on his habits and we're building a good combination," Pole said.
"That contributes a lot, learning off the big boppers like Klem (David Klemmer) and Stef, that's helping me show my game.
"We do a lot of extras and we focus on details. Everything we do, on the field or in the gym, we always compete against each other and that gets the buzz going.
Pole is slightly ahead of Utoikamanu when it comes to average metres a game but the latter has him covered when it comes to defensive work rate, offloads and tackle busts.
Utoikamanu has also helped Pole with the finer details of front-row play – contrary to popular belief, there's a lot more to it than just running into people or having them run into you.
"Defence, you have to think about which way you're flipping back after a tackle, especially if you're the third man in," Pole said.
"If you flip the wrong way, without thinking, it can cause an underlap or an overlap.

"Making the effort to get the defender onto your right shoulder, making sure you step in to contact, buying time on the ground for the rest of the team — there's more to it than people think."​

With a mind like that, the strength and mobility to back it up and the drive that's taken him from one of rugby league's frontiers all the way to the big time, Pole's status as the most underrated player in rugby league won't last long.
Come November, he'll be a free agent for 2026 and there will be no shortage of clubs keen on landing him.
Pole says he hasn't thought much about his future beyond next season but he's currently loving life at the Tigers and while he might be underrated by most, coach Benji Marshall knows exactly what he's got on his hands.
"I love it here. If Tigers want me to stay here, I'd gladly stay, but I'll see about that when the time comes," Pole said.
"Benji understands us young kids coming through, he's easy to get on with and he knows when to be serious. He's given me confidence in myself, sometimes I struggle with that.
"But he tells me all the time he believes I can be more than I am, that I can be one of the best front-rowers in the game."

Hopefully Richo and Benji are moving on making him one of ours for the next decade
 
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