Tom Shines
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And they pay Klemmer $800k a year… he is not worth half that
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And they pay Klemmer $800k a year… he is not worth half that
liltiger
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The money we have tied up in Klemmer and Bateman is diabolical.
A parting gift from Sheens to keep our cap in a shambles
426Tlgerland
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Still not sorted , wonder how he goes today , I hope well but last bunch of weeks been poor , needs the contract sorted and if by chance he is still not wanting to sign our upgrade and extension I feel we should pull the deal it’s just dragging on to long , seems like he is just waiting for any offer better or equal to ours , Drags , Raiders , , Panthers Roosters all,siad no that’s not a good look and ts not about winning this is about money and winning he wants Panthers to pay him $ 800 k over 4/5 years , at present he is worth $ 450 over 3
Tom Shines
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Who cares if it’s “ not a good look”? Not much that happens around this club is ..
it only takes one team to sign him …. I still suspect he is gone ..15 can knock him back and the 16th club can still get him
liltiger
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Problem is its not cleared for another 2 seasons so gives Richo only one year to try and sort something before he's gone
Klemmer, contract ends at the end of 2025 (mutual option for 2026)
Bateman, contracted for 2025 and 2026.
That's the positive.
Red88_Tiger
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Klemmer imo is passing too much. It’s obviously to suit the game plan but doesn’t make his game look good. But aside from that he’s a reasonable safe low error option.
Bateman for mine is trying too hard. Put him in a better side and he will be in the top half of players on ground.
Both players will be better if the team around them lift their game.
While they may not be earning their value atm I think their contracts are not as detrimental in years and value as packer,Josh Reynolds and mbye were
Bateman for mine is trying too hard. Put him in a better side and he will be in the top half of players on ground.
Both players will be better if the team around them lift their game.
While they may not be earning their value atm I think their contracts are not as detrimental in years and value as packer,Josh Reynolds and mbye were
Buttface
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I think both were one year too long, but we probably had to bcoz we were spooners. That sentiment needs to stop.
With Klem I remember him doing an interview his first pre season with us. While Sheens had everyone doing 200 passes a day instead of 200 tackles per day, he was also training players in more than one position. Klem said how refreshing it was to be playing lock and being allowed to pass the ball. I think Klem has let this filter into his game while here. This stupidity needs to stop also. He needs to hold the ball, run hard and tackle hard. That’s it.
liltiger
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Demps any idea how the mutual option works, if Klemmer wants to enact the option for one more year but the club doesn't want to does he still get the extra year?
Bateman usually bails out before his contract ends and i hope it happens again,unfortunately Klemmer will probably stick till the bitter end.Both were paid too much for too long
Klemmer and Bateman should be leading from the front not the other way around. Who are the senior players here. It's all on them they are both rubbish.
I've always been under the belief that MO required both to want the extension.
If the club doesn't want it, it isn't activated.
Hoping we say farewell and spend the money elsewhere.
Tiger Tarl
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Key: Player options (PO), club options (CO) and mutual options (MO).
PO - The player can decide to exercise additional years in the contract.
CO - The club has the option to extend a player's contract for the additional year/s.
MO - The player and club must come to an agreement to activate extra year/s.
PO - The player can decide to exercise additional years in the contract.
CO - The club has the option to extend a player's contract for the additional year/s.
MO - The player and club must come to an agreement to activate extra year/s.
The Chad
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In terms of Klemmer & Bateman-
As someone noted in another thread- there are only 2-3 players in the squad that actively can be seen counting the defensive numbers & trying to get others to number up correctly.
That'd be these 2 guys.
Are they paid too much? Probably.
Have they stopped us signing better players? No.
Klemmer isn't the guy he was in his early career attack-wise. But he is a much safer defender. He still gets you around 120m a game (when he plays more minutes than he sits) but it concerns me that he doesn't appear to 'win' physical encounters one-on-one as much. I think he would benefit from a greater focus on strength training to hold the middle. What he ISN'T doing- is phoning it in.
Bateman is one of the very few guys that can win one-on-one in defence. He's not an attacking superstar (but he's hardly the Lone Ranger there) but he doesn't get bullied & walked over either the way some of our guys do. I think he holds far more value than he's given credit for.
As someone noted in another thread- there are only 2-3 players in the squad that actively can be seen counting the defensive numbers & trying to get others to number up correctly.
That'd be these 2 guys.
Are they paid too much? Probably.
Have they stopped us signing better players? No.
Klemmer isn't the guy he was in his early career attack-wise. But he is a much safer defender. He still gets you around 120m a game (when he plays more minutes than he sits) but it concerns me that he doesn't appear to 'win' physical encounters one-on-one as much. I think he would benefit from a greater focus on strength training to hold the middle. What he ISN'T doing- is phoning it in.
Bateman is one of the very few guys that can win one-on-one in defence. He's not an attacking superstar (but he's hardly the Lone Ranger there) but he doesn't get bullied & walked over either the way some of our guys do. I think he holds far more value than he's given credit for.
Tigerstigerstigers
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i think we need Bateman to keep the defence tight. He will be a good steady hand to keep while some young guns come through. Only proviso is he needs to keep cool and be told to keep it simple in his attacking game. Role should be to keep the ruck tight and tackle all game ala Liam Fulton.
Tiger_claws
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Bateman consistently gets caught at marker in the middle unnecessarily. Plenty of times he gets too emotional and tries to come up with something in the middle. He needs to hold his position. He has zero discipline for behaviour and positioning.
king_sirro
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When has Bateman ever showed he is a "good steady hand"? He is the complete opposite of that.
Tigerstigerstigers
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maybe so but he does do a lot of work defensively. If he can channel his aggression he can be a valued part of a youngish team.
TSupps05
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To Bateman's defence in the games i have been to at Leichhardt he is a clear standout leader with Api. He is one of the only players that is barking orders to the others and is a motivator. Even after a couple tries Melbourne scored in a row he was trying to pump everyone up still.
Whilst his playing ability has declined i do think his value is with his experience and leadership capabilities.
Whilst his playing ability has declined i do think his value is with his experience and leadership capabilities.
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