Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

rugbygoated said:
Bulldogs are doing just fine without a great prop combination. You have to strengthen depth in positions to build success. Because injuries are inevitable. We have too much depth in the halves, so that is over the top and should have been used elsewhere
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True re halves but that always seems to be an issue. We improved the forwards (although going crud atm); but nothing was done about the backs. Hence my comment re needing pigs too. Balance has to be achieved across the team.
 
2041 said:
Once again the idea that players are all on the same contract and all have equal value to other clubs. Garner and Eisenhuth will be on minimum salary or close to it, so there is literally zero value in releasing them unless they need the roster spot: they don't free up any cap room at all, as they have to be replaced by someone else on at least first grade minimum. If Penrith need to free up cap space they have to release someone who is making some actual money, not just a warm body. Personally I'd be surprised if they decided To'o was the most expendable but who else is on that roster, making decent coin and not vital to them? Yeo? Edwards? Cleary?

This is the same argument as "why did we let Papali'i go and not Bateman?" It's because another club is willing to pay Papali'i's contract as he is still perceived to have some value, whereas barring a miracle the only way anyone is even going to consider taking Bateman off our hands is if the Tigers pay almost all the money owing to him.

EDIT: besides, what Penrith have shown they do really, really well is working out which of their players they absolutely have to keep even on big contracts and which they can live without, replace with kids etc. They've let the likes of Kikau, Koroisau and Burton go without dropping a beat, and there's every chance losing Crichton and Leniu go isn't going to stop them, either. Eventually their run has to end and one would have to think Luai and Fisher-Harris leaving would be as big a challenge as they've faced, but still: sensible roster management doesn't mean never letting a good player walk. In fact, in some cases it means the opposite: not being emotionally attached to players to the extent that you prioritise keeping them over what they cost you.
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The incredible talent drain they have experienced over the past 3 years - including Luai, Fishhead and Turuva must have them right on the line of the downward slope for 2025. Adding To'o to that list prematurely will ensure it Id say. They are smarter than that.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
We are a complicated bunch. It’s like bagging players for leaving saying they are the lowest forms etc but then begging for players at other clubs to break contracts to join us.
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Not like their coach bailed on us with 2 years left
on his contract + Gus has pulled several contracts
and wriggled out of others at the dogs. I too would
like players, managers & clubs to honor contracts,
it's the right thing to do but it's not what's happening
throughout the league. It's kill/be killed unfortunately
 
batboy said:
Especially that Winger.
He’s a modern version of Matt Utai, and his run is close to an end I feel…
He’s missing too many things from his game to stay at the top for any longer - if he’s on 600+ there’s the reason they need him gone…
ludicrous money for such a limited Winger.
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did you seriously just call Brian To’o, easily the best winger of his generation, limited?
 
Mistymuzzle said:
Ah..... Tell us again how soft olam is compared to you again?

No I wasnt there when May gutlessly attacked that guy, but we live in an age of cameras everywhere and as a result we all get to "be there".

Tell us how sneaking up behind a guy surrounded by NRL players and slinging him head first into concrete is the hard man honourable way. (from 0:30)

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I'll tell you one thing, the victim would've had to be extremely unlucky to die from that. I was expecting a lot worse based on your comments
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
Bryce is UK bound with his dad.
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John Cartwright is his uncle.
He probably will head to the UK, but he’s still a very dangerous attack minded right edge forward. Lack of an attacking threat on our right edge is hurting us badly, so someone similar to him could potentially fill a hole for us for a season or two until someone younger comes along.
His defence is not always the best, that has always been his issue, but being able to worry and hurt teams with our attack on a regular basis would take a lot of pressure off our defence.
 
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Mighty_Tiger said:
We are a complicated bunch. It’s like bagging players for leaving saying they are the lowest forms etc but then begging for players at other clubs to break contracts to join us.
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Highly likely this has been initiated from JL who is one of his best mates and would be doing all he can to get some quality players to join him here and help turn us into a much better team.
 
Kaito said:
Not like their coach bailed on us with 2 years left
on his contract + Gus has pulled several contracts
and wriggled out of others at the dogs. I too would
like players, managers & clubs to honor contracts,
it's the right thing to do but it's not what's happening
throughout the league. It's kill/be killed unfortunately
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Exactly, if you can’t beat them you need to do what the others are doing to obtain success.
 
There has been reports for the entire year that Galvin has been declining extensions & asking for releases but when I mention it people on here carry on that the media are just liars & it never happened blah blah blah. Same guys taking the media’s reports as gospel when it suits their agenda tho just like now with To’o.

I think people are taking things are a bit to serious with my question, I posed it as a clear hypothetical which I think people aren’t seeing. I hope Galvin wants to stay, that would be fantastic & hopefully he leads the team in a premiership. But if he doesn’t want to ‘get in the crocodile roll’ as the CEO would say then why tf would you not trade him for the best winger in the comp & proven winner.
 
Vicious said:
It will cost us 900k possibly up to 1 million per season for either of Brian To’o or Valentine Holmes.
Yes that is a lot of money for an outside back, possibly a little bit more than they are worth, but I believe we desperately need either one of them as their profile and style of play would bring us much needed confidence.
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comparing To’o with Holmes is not on … To’o is the best at his position … and turns 26 next month .. Holmes is on the way down and just turned 29… no one ..including the Tigers is paying $900k for Holmes
 
Juice said:
There has been reports for the entire year that Galvin has been declining extensions & asking for releases but when I mention it people on here carry on that the media are just liars & it never happened blah blah blah. Same guys taking the media’s reports as gospel when it suits their agenda tho just like now with To’o.

I think people are taking things are a bit to serious with my question, I posed it as a clear hypothetical which I think people aren’t seeing. I hope Galvin wants to stay, that would be fantastic & hopefully he leads the team in a premiership. But if he doesn’t want to ‘get in the crocodile roll’ as the CEO would say then why tf would you not trade him for the best winger in the comp & proven winner.
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Who cares. Why are you dragging Galvin back up
constantly. The club & him have put it to bed — he'll
see out his contract, 2 years left. Don't waste Ur time
 
Vicious said:
It will cost us 900k possibly up to 1 million per season for either of Brian To’o or Valentine Holmes.
Yes that is a lot of money for an outside back, possibly a little bit more than they are worth, but I believe we desperately need either one of them as their profile and style of play would bring us much needed confidence.
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No way $900,000, keep looking.
 
Juice said:
There has been reports for the entire year that Galvin has been declining extensions & asking for releases but when I mention it people on here carry on that the media are just liars & it never happened blah blah blah. Same guys taking the media’s reports as gospel when it suits their agenda tho just like now with To’o.

I think people are taking things are a bit to serious with my question, I posed it as a clear hypothetical which I think people aren’t seeing. I hope Galvin wants to stay, that would be fantastic & hopefully he leads the team in a premiership. But if he doesn’t want to ‘get in the crocodile roll’ as the CEO would say then why tf would you not trade him for the best winger in the comp & proven winner.
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The reports were "Leaked" by his manager. Nothing came from Lachlan himself.
He is going nowhere.
I'll put an Orange Juice on it.
 
Tom Shines said:
comparing To’o with Holmes is not on … To’o is the best at his position … and turns 26 next month .. Holmes is on the way down and just turned 29… no one ..including the Tigers is paying $900k for Holmes
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I would also much prefer To’o, but take into consideration Holmes is an extremely fit and fast 29 year old, not some broken down hack. His contract with the Cowboys is rumoured to be around that 900k mark hence he reason they are looking to possibly offload him to help balance their own salary cap.
If the Cowboys were even wiling to contribute 100k meaning his new club would have to fork out 800k per season for him, that is still value for a high quality rep standard player in my opinion.
 
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