Kaito
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We'll be back, bigger & stronger in all grades nxt year
Benji 2025 and Beyond
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We'll be back, bigger & stronger in all grades nxt year
Buttface
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Ahh, the offseason blind faith.
That should last until ten minutes into the first game.
I worry bunji’s ego will/is in the way of giving him a mature seasoned coach to support him. That’s why Hodgson is being bantered around. Think bunji thinks he has the new wave of thinking in coaching and a more experienced coach will stifle his great coaching prowess! Ego
Once again . Sack him for Jim dymock ? And Nathan brown ? That’s your plan ?
You guys are absolutely mental , arm chair … I swear to god , the reason we lose all the time , because this knee jerk shit isn’t just with the fans , it’s also with the board .
The only way we at going to win consistently is with a core group of players who love the club , and are good footy players .
you can dissect all you want completely out context ! Good on ya ! Well done!
I can’t believe you came back at me with Nathan brown and Jim Dymock as nrl head coach potentials … with a straight face .
Absolutely the dumbest shit I’ve read on here in a while ….
We have a plan ! Is it a good one ! No it’s not ! Does it fill anyone with confidence . No it doesn’t . But is there a chance it’s going to work . Yea there is .
But if your alternative is Nathan brown and Jim Dymock …. Then wtf are we even talking about …..
GNR4LIFE
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There is no way you can be serious. The ferocity and rage you are resorting too, you’d think you are defending Wayne Bennett or Craig Bellamy and not our Kindergarten coach. I didn’t proclaim Brown or Dymock to be the answer, just said they would be better options than our current coach, which let me tell you, isn’t a very high bar. You said yourself the plan isn’t a good one and acknowledge it probably won’t even work. So why are you angry? Projection? Are you really just mad at the club at allowing such an amateur to drive the car and you are taking it out on the rest of us?
Tucker
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I’ll believe you, hundreds of millions wouldn’t….
Tucker
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You miss the irony of your own rant
Tucker
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WE DONT HAVE TO STACK THE SIDE FULL OF KIDS!!!!!!!!
Lauren, can you post the article?I agree about the depth, we basically had to rely on players who were meant to play flegg.
Was reading an article about when Penrith were in a similar predicament. Even Gus conceded (then) that real progress would take years when a team is so young. It was a gradual process but look at them now.The following article discusses their success as a development club. Touching on how their development strategy has not only fostered sustainable success for themselves but has also strengthened other clubs by providing talented players.
The Panthers millionaire factory: $27m and counting for club’s brightest and best
Since the Panthers’ dynasty began in 2021, a host of players and coaches have left the club due to salary cap pressure – earning themselves seven-figure paydays in the process.www.smh.com.au
TIGERS
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OK well,
How do you go to market and do any better that what we bought?? What's the alternative?
im basing it off the fact galvin wont extend if we are going bad and richo will do what is needed to give him reassurances.
richo thinks we will push for a top 8 with luai and galvin, api, bula spine.
if it looks like the same continues from last 3 wooden spoons he will def pull the trigger
he did.
but things get pushed aside when people wannt to win premierships
if madge thinks he can do it with luai, galvin, api and bula he will be super reluctant but would take the job.
he wants to coach and to win and the management and admin have changed - as has the roster.
Tucker
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That’s the problem, however we can’t use that as an excuse, because it is of our own doing.
Magpie_Magic
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If it hasn't already been done or earmarked, I hope the club/coaching staff commission a review on the type of injuries, especially to backs during games and the nature of discipline indiscretions leading to sin bins etc, to possibly find a preventative pattern regarding strength and conditioning, training, procurement of coaching support staff as well as the type of players recruited and released.
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I’m not defending Benji ! I’m defending the idea of sticking to a plan and not swapping and changing ! The fact you guys can’t see that is beyond me .
And I’m not even raging about anything . I’m puzzled more than anything . You guys need a reality check . This is not real life . lol
Jesus if someone says wtf ! It doesn’t mean they are angry . It means they’re perplexed.
I’m not even out of first gear .
I tell what I am though . Frustrated . Frustrated that we can’t make a plan stick . Frustrated that we constantly make the wrong choice , and frustrated that everyone and his dog jumps onto the next shiny object when the inevitable plan failure happens .
Just once I’m advocating stick to the plan , for good or bad .
If it fails again fine ! At least as a club everyone learnt how to follow a plan and execute it .
And in all fairness Benji has been set up to fail . So excuse me if I feel sorry for the guy.
We need to surround him with quality assistants and people with knowledge and allow him to put his best foot forward .
I’m not gonna sit here and read the same group of guys who go from issue to issue , and never have anything positive to say . Yet never offer any insight into a better way .
I personally don’t know a better way . But if you’re going to use a failed ex coach , and other failed ex coaches of which haven’t coached first grade in ages , as a plausible alternative , then you and anyone else is just ranting nonsense . Because they’re absolutely not plausible alternatives ! They are lateral moves at best .
And completely dismisses the fact we have gone from journeyman coach to journeyman coach over and over , which is the reason we are in this mess . I’m not going to get on board an idea where we torpedo the structures we have spent the last 2 years putting in place , to promote guys like brown and dymock. That’s honestly the worst idea I’ve read on here . Almost as dumb as bringing back sheens as first grade coach …..
some of you guys just can’t help playing the man ie. Benji . I couldn’t care less about him . It’s about stability , and quieting the noise , to develop a first grade football team.
Honestly what was the punt of going through this last year if not to see what these kids can do ? I don’t want to go for an eels esq. side that makes the finals and then comes last 2 years in a row / down the bottom . I want to go for a team who always up there , and as @Lauren said , the only real way outside of constantly buying playing who fit a generational coaches mood (storm) or buying the best players available all the time (roosters) is the junior pathways way .
If there’s no improvement mid next year , I’ll be right by your side . But I’m not chucking the baby out with the bath water . And the forum circle jerk going on , like it always does , is ramping up again to oust Benji . Just once STFU and stick to a plan . And no , no one is angry in saying that … Jesus
We can read - We see what you're saying....
That doesn't mean it makes sense.
The plan isn't working, and we're already losing players....
If we don't resign Pole and he leaves for the same reason Stefano did
(To improve his game with better Coaching) then what?
If we don't win more games next year and Galvin is poached - Then What....
How long does the experiment lasts.
Every coach that gets sacked half a season is - there's no reckoning as to why it wasn't done sooner.
There's coaches - they're everywhere.... Brad Arthur was an option. Jason Ryles has been the next best thing forever. There's an assistant that had success in the UK at Newcastle.... And they're jus the ones off the top of my head. ALL of them better options than 3/4 coaches we picked.
What did Penrith do when they needed the Coach they have now - Made him an offer he couldn't refuse....
There's head coaches and decent assistants with links to the Club out there already...
Webster, Payten, we didn't even bother to sound them out.
We've already lost / moved on one of the Coaches in said Plan.
the plan is dog shit - and should be squashed before it costs us more than a poor start to next year.
this 'coaching plan' was never about moving forward....
It was all about shutting up the idiots - looks like it's working
GNR4LIFE
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Are you serious at all about wanting to retain Galvin? The plan is a failure. I realise what you are saying about chopping and changing every year, but if you already know it’s not working, you don’t persist with it for the sake of it. Especially when it’s costing us players. At this rate Galvin will be next.
The fact you think these are good enough ideas to completely upend the whole strategic pathways structure ( because that’s what you do when you get rid of the first grade coach ) is enough of a reason for me to see you’ve NFI.
This chicken little shit about Pole and whatever … I mean please he’s a good footy player and probably my fav tiger right now , but he’s hardly irreplaceable.
IMHO the 2 areas that need the most focus arnt even attack and defence . They’re fitness and wrestling / strength training .
Our lack of ruck control lead to long periods duress and our fitness wasn’t up to it .
That’s not even run by Benji ! It’s Peter Moussa and his team . You know ? Guys with uni degrees around sports science and physiology . And if they’re saying that the data we are using and analytics are cutting edge , then we need to have a look at that data and see why the eyeball isn’t matching the software .
We lose the ruck , we don’t get into position , we give away a penalty , do something stupid , get fatigued , then cart it out under fatigue and make even more errors .
That’s whole process is our Achilles heel . And getting guys in who know how to correct identify and analyse this is crucial .
If you’re a head coach and you’ve got buy in from your players , and they want to play for you , that’s almost 80% of the way there . The rest is making sure the guys who have key job sets are the right guys .
And I don’t think they were . Maybe it was by design ? Ie. they just employed ex tigers players to create a real culture in the club , who they knew had deficiencies . Maybe with Robbie moving on , it’s time to bring in outsiders .
Because the reality is the biggest issue Madge had was getting a club full of mercenaries to give a shit . And never could . And that was endemic through the club .
I don’t know .. but the point is patience . And not to let emotions dictate outcomes . As pissed off as we all are about this teams performance .
Yeah
- He's already asked for a release multiple times under this coaching structure....
Fingers crossed we keep the cool aid up to them this pre-season
