Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tom Shines]

maybe because he's an overweight unfit player who needs to focus on improving for the team who's paying his salary. don't mind seeing the back of him. and let's be fair jack de bellin is an international for PNG, doesn't really mean a lot these days.

We would take De Belin in a New York minute .

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

Jordan Miller will not be at the tigers next year. I have been told he has already been released, he will end up at the dogs or souths. He went to play for Fiji when he was asked not to by the club. This is apparently the reason.

Gus spoke very highly of Miller last weekend....he will end up at the Dogs...watch!..Gee he has some attitude for an 19yo

 

[Kaito]

maybe because he's an overweight unfit player who needs to focus on improving for the team who's paying his salary. don't mind seeing the back of him. and let's be fair jack de bellin is an international for PNG, doesn't really mean a lot these days.

Haha. I dunno mayne, I dunno...

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

😂 if anyone has gone back and seen what i have posted would be quite easy to connect the dots on where some of the news comes from

who cares where it comes from....as long as its accurate...

 

[mikey]

The "ignore" function is your friend.
There is a regular poster here who has slowly turned me off this forum. His aggravating style would make me close the site as soon as he infected a thread.
Now, after the ignore, I can happily read about how we might go alright next season 😉

Cheers - have been an irregular user of said function.
Don't mind people having alternative opinions but no need to be abusive about it like some are.

 

[BAGNF05]

He’s top 30 next year as it stands though so the club can’t really wait until the last year of his contract to find out if he has what it takes to get himself in shape.

Exactly. I think we’re past being a club who just bends over.

 

[Robbie]

Big load of bullshit. Based off Buzz's Shoosh peice lol

I work with a family member of his who told me. Next time I won’t say anything.

 

[Tom Shines]

I work with a family member of his who told me. Next time I won’t say anything.

At least you nominated a source 👍…. Most people don’t …

 

[balmain boy]

He has time - the Tigers don't and he wanted out. He could wait us out for another year and he was never going to extend and still go to Mnaly.

He still had 3 years left on his contract, perhaps towards the end he would have matured to the extent that he's happy to play where his coaches tell him to and will bust his ass regardless.

 

[balmain boy]

Jordan Miller will not be at the tigers next year. I have been told he has already been released, he will end up at the dogs or souths. He went to play for Fiji when he was asked not to by the club. This is apparently the reason.

That would be absolutely absurd and illegal from the club.

Any player, who's fit, must be allowed to represent their country if they wish to.

If he's injured and we don't want him aggravating it, that's one thing. And we're entitled to ask him to not play.

 

[Tucker]

I think it’s unfair to not allow players to represent their countries. This would be the families proudest moment seeing him run out for Fiji, it means so much for countries like Tonga, Samoa, Fiji & PNG

I can understand it to some extent.
The Fainus, Galvin, Miller and others arent established first graders yet. It seems apparent that Richo wants big pre seasons from these guys. Going off to play rep footy will unfortunately get in the way of this. These guys are young. Theyll get plenty of chances. Get established as a top grader first, become a seasoned pro and then progress to rep.

 

[user118245]

Alot of talk about Miller like he is the next Payne Haas..
He has not shown anything near that and tbh if he believes all the hype he's in trouble.
He needs to spend the full off season getting fit

Miller plays 17 in cup, he was beaten out of his spot by Tim J who had came up from low levels of footy to NRL after not touching a footy for a long time.

 

[weststigerman]

Its not his fault that Sheens signed him and about a dozen teenagers to a Top 30 deal

You would be cutting off your nose to spite your face to be moving on from him now

True, but being a professionally paid player comes with expectations.

I wouldn’t be moving him on now, but I also wouldn’t tolerate him doing whatever he wants either if in fact any of this story is true.

 

[Tom Shines]

Miller plays 17 in cup, he was beaten out of his spot by Tim J who had came up from low levels of footy to NRL after not touching a footy for a long time.

Tim J three years older though

 

[balmain boy]

It makes plenty of sense. Richo and Benji have tried to draw a line in the sand with him (rightly or wrongly). Miller has said no way, Miller loses his contract. This is in the context of - conditioning is an issue with him and more broadly in the team
- Richo previpusly saying players were underdone after the internationals last year
- we need to free up roster spots
- Miller was left off the congratulations release for the internationals

Not saying its right really, but it makes sense

It can make some sense in certain logic, but it also makes absolutely no sense to just release the best young forward we have at the club. He's about a year away from dominating the NRL, i could easily see him playing origin for 7-8 years.

Where most of our young forwards are well undersized, he's huge, hard to put down and can get a good offload away. He adds a massive point of difference in body shape to our current forwards and that's important. He has a good work rate, just not NRL standard fitness yet, but that can come. At any other club he wouldn't have played first grade and would be developing in the anonymity of the lower grades. The fact he played a couple of NRL games when he wasn't ready means some fans have developed super unrealistic expectations.

Him leaving would be akin to losing Paseka or Tatola again, only worse. Given our lack of props we can't afford to let him go.

If we've released 2 of our top 3 juniors in the space of a month, for nothing in return, then that's absolutely ridiculously incompetent management.

We also have no right to deny him playing for Fiji, unless he's been officially diagnosed with an injury that needs treatment or rest.

 

[balmain boy]

Parra have also signed Joash Papallii and Jordan Samrani from the dogs, two talented young backs. Papalii very highly rated coming through the grades and junior rep footy.

 

[balmain boy]

Miller plays 17 in cup, he was beaten out of his spot by Tim J who had came up from low levels of footy to NRL after not touching a footy for a long time.

Miller was playing 30-40 mins in Cup, started some games. He'd still be in Flegg at every other club, we accelerated his development. Tim J had less then 12 months away from footy and had already played 3 years of flegg i think.

 

[Tom Shines]

It can make some sense in certain logic, but it also makes absolutely no sense to just release the best young forward we have at the club. He's about a year away from dominating the NRL, i could easily see him playing origin for 7-8 years.

Where most of our young forwards are well undersized, he's huge, hard to put down and can get a good offload away. He adds a massive point of difference in body shape to our current forwards and that's important. He has a good work rate, just not NRL standard fitness yet, but that can come. At any other club he wouldn't have played first grade and would be developing in the anonymity of the lower grades. The fact he played a couple of NRL games when he wasn't ready means some fans have developed super unrealistic expectations.

Him leaving would be akin to losing Paseka or Tatola again, only worse. Given our lack of props we can't afford to let him go.

The problem is that he is probably still another year away from NRL … and they need forwards now …

I would still be trying to move on others instead

 

[BAGNF05]

True, but being a professionally paid player comes with expectations.

I wouldn’t be moving him on now, but I also wouldn’t tolerate him doing whatever he wants either if in fact any of this story is true.

That’s the unknown bit. I think it’s a fair assumption he’s not smashing training.

 

[Ecto-1]

It was reported a while ago that after Miller debuted in 1st grade then went back down he had a massive ego and wouldn’t listen to the coaches. Imagine his ego now after playing international. I reckon they asked him to put the club first and spend the offseason getting himself ready. His attitude is probably why he’s been let go.