Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

coivtny said:
I agree on Klemmer and Twal and could be talked into Seyfarth but where are their replacements coming from? There just isn’t enough talent coming on to the market.
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Honestly think Twal and Seyfarth are the no frills experienced workhorses every club has and they put in. If Klemmers contract value was actually for a top line forward then I don’t think we are that bad off having a decent pack
 
Tiger-ferret said:
Honestly think Twal and Seyfarth are the no frills experienced workhorses every club has and they put in. If Klemmers contract value was actually for a top line forward then I don’t think we are that bad off having a decent pack
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I could agree on Seyfarth but I just can’t buy Twal. Seems like a good bloke but is the most un-intimidating prop. We need a prop like the one that got Jack Newton.
 
Kaito said:
I like DCE even if he's hated on, but Luai up him down
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Look, Luai is playing the house down.

DCE and Cleary are in a class of their own. Heck so many years DCE drove Manly to the finals (yes earlier years it was a massive team effort. Daly improved a lot). Luai, Luai is gun, he isn't a gun halfback but a gun playing halfback.

Hopefully he will be both a gun and a gun halfback for us. Till that's proven though, we won't see juniors wanting to learn the trade under him.
 
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orange&black said:
I believe it’s inevitable that Galvin will move to the back row, either an edge or lock. Once he gets some muscle on his frame, and hence the extra weight, he won’t be quick enough at 5/8 and will have more impact receiving the ball either a little wider or using his passing game as a link player.
As his mobility slows down I think that opposition clubs will work him out at 5/8 without the genuine speed to make him less predictable.
I believe he will hang on to 5/8 as long as he can however, maybe a couple of seasons. He probably is already aware of this but will enjoy having his hands on the ball as much as possible until then.
However I can see him as a Yeo type lock where he could still play like a half and enjoy running the ball as well.
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Galvin actually said in an interview on the Sunday footy show a couple of weeks back that he’s been told by a lot of people that as he matures he’ll probably end up as a lock but wants to play 5/8 as long as possible. So even he knows it’ll eventually come to that.
 
king_sirro said:
No one thought Curran, Hughes and King could get it done either. I would argue our group of middles have more talent than them. So it comes down to heart, effort and fitness.

I'm all for buying a Leo Thompson, even a Rudolph to replace Klemmer, but I'm totally against adding them to our current squad.
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Curran imo was an exceptional player in NZL.

The other pair were virtually unknown but guys like Kikau, Morrin and the young backrower Preston all played quality football and carried their pack.

I can’t see who apart from a 22yo in our pack will be dominant NRL forwards, we’ve already seen what these guys are.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Curran imo was an exceptional player in NZL.

The other pair were virtually unknown but guys like Kikau, Morrin and the young backrower Preston all played quality football and carried their pack.

I can’t see who apart from a 22yo in our pack will be dominant NRL forwards, we’ve already seen what these guys are.
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Curran was a good backrower or lock. If we signed him last year to play front row everyone would have been furious.
 
king_sirro said:
Curran was a good backrower or lock. If we signed him last year to play front row everyone would have been furious.
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Their small pack ultimately didn’t get them past rd 1 of finals. And their backrow was damn good.

We’re a long way off that in my view.
 
cochise said:
I don't think we can afford to have both Twal and Seyfarth.
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I'm not a great fan of Twal but Klemmer does a job. He rarely misses a tackle and can put then down one on one. His defence isn't in question. His attack has diminished the last year or two but he's been a marked man as our only big go forward man. Stef was a liability, Pole's defence needs a lot of work, Sione goes okay but he doesn't hurt anyone, Twal is just Twal. I've got high hopes for Johannssen and Sukkar and Johannssen has a younger brother who could turn out to be something special. Sam Fainu in the second row will be special and Seyfarth keeps getting better.
I think if we start with Klemmer and Hunt, they are hard enough to get off to a decent start and Pole and either Sukkar or Johannssen can come on and do some work. After that, if we get a few injuries, we may be in a bit of strife.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Their small pack ultimately didn’t get them past rd 1 of finals. And their backrow was damn good.

We’re a long way off that in my view.
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I agree we are a long way off going off last years efforts. The point I'm making is that we can't sign middles (or anyone for that matter) until we offload players.

The effort the dogs forwards put in will be hard to match. In fact I predict they won't make the 8 next year because they won't sustain it. But we are in the situation we are in, so IMO we have something to work with if they want to pull their finger out as a collective group. Definitely need a eight edge backrower, hopefully to replace Bateman.
 
king_sirro said:
I agree we are a long way off going off last years efforts. The point I'm making is that we can't sign middles (or anyone for that matter) until we offload players.

The effort the dogs forwards put in will be hard to match. In fact I predict they won't make the 8 next year because they won't sustain it. But we are in the situation we are in, so IMO we have something to work with if they want to pull their finger out as a collective group. Definitely need an eight edge backrower, hopefully to replace Bateman.
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The rumour that Miller might leave potentially frees up one spot, hopefully an experienced middle.

Then you need to replace Bateman with a reliable edge forward.

They’re not out there atm but March is 5 months away.
 
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Tiger-ferret said:
My impression of their contracts may well be wrong. Thought they were both on the lower end. To me they both add value if not overpaid. I think problems lie elsewhere with the squad. If they were swapped out for an elite I’m not complaining.
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The best sides normally only carry one minimal impact forward such as Eisenhuth (pick whichever one you want).
 
Tiger-ferret said:
My impression of their contracts may well be wrong. Thought they were both on the lower end. To me they both add value if not overpaid. I think problems lie elsewhere with the squad. If they were swapped out for an elite I’m not complaining.
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It is not so much the $, it is the roster spot and what they bring to the table that is the issue. It is just too similar for me. I think Seyfarth offers more as he has a little bit of versatility as you can play him on an edge at a stretch. Problem is though Twal is 1 year into a 4 year deal so I don't see how you can extend Seyfarth's contract.
 
IMO it’s a waste of time trying to sign a middle unless a good one suddenly becomes available. The ones currently available for 2025 are no better than what we have.

Target someone for 2026 by all means but don’t waste a top 30 spot on scraps. I would be trying to move guys like Matamua and Twal on to create space in the roster.

There are a couple at the club that might be ready with a big pre-season, particularly Johanssen and Faagatu.
 
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