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Not all penalties given away are bad- sometimes giving away a penalty saves a try or even just is worth giving away to slow play down and also where it is on the field and in the tackle count so I never think pure numbers of penalties mean much
I take your point, but..

Those are generally the exception to the rule, rather than a data-affecting regularity.

Penalties conceded is a pretty good measure, among other things, of general, overall discipline.
 
You do realise off contract 2025 means they can't play for us until 2026 right?
Yep. Next season out; ….. But maybe?
Got to start shopping now, paperwork after Nov 1.
Agitation; can't keep them all under the cap from other clubs comes into play, homesick, be with family, not enough time on the field, bench or KOE, undervalued by incumbent club, swap deals etc. A myriad of reasons.
Fingers crossed for this year. Early strikes for 2026?
 
Not all penalties given away are bad- sometimes giving away a penalty saves a try or even just is worth giving away to slow play down and also where it is on the field and in the tackle count so I never think pure numbers of penalties mean much
Exactly the same with 6 again calls, I would like to know the percentage of them given on Tackle 1 ?
Like you mentioned teams slow the play down to get there defence set and only give away 1 extra tackle, coach would be screaming at any player that got up quickly on the first tackle and put the defence under pressure.
The introduction of the 6 again rule helps the defensive team when they are in trouble.
IMO a stupid rule
 
Exactly the same with 6 again calls, I would like to know the percentage of them given on Tackle 1 ?
Like you mentioned teams slow the play down to get there defence set and only give away 1 extra tackle, coach would be screaming at any player that got up quickly on the first tackle and put the defence under pressure.
The introduction of the 6 again rule helps the defensive team when they are in trouble.
IMO a stupid rule
Usually could be called a professional foul when in the red zone.
 
Everyone bagging people who post like @kade7 and others - F@$k off!!!

We want to hear rumors that’s why we’re here.

I appreciate them for posting and I don’t care if they’re 1 day early or 1 day after anything else I hear.

Others who don’t post rumors but just put others down should start a new thread called “not rumors” - see how fun it is over there by yourselves bagging each other.
post of the year. Same blokes talking the same shit if you don't like it block them no need to have a chat and bag them. but hey some people like to big note over others right?
 
Brooks played pretty much the same at Manly that he did here. Maybe slightly better due to 2 things. More arsenal around him to draw defenders away giving him space, and also the fact he was the "2nd half" rather than the main man. He struggled big time when DCE was out.
I agree with the assessment that his game hasn't changed much at Manly. I think it is a bit disingenious to say he struggled without DCE. He did struggle the first game DCE missed, but Manly also had more than half their side out in that game. He was near best on ground in the 2nd game he played. Either way I don't think Brooks performances is reflective of coaching (here or Manly) but squad strength.
 
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I take your point, but..

Those are generally the exception to the rule, rather than a data-affecting regularity.

Penalties conceded is a pretty good measure, among other things, of general, overall discipline.
Poor Discipline is always going to hurt your team , people bag Bateman but he is 100% effort , some silly things but obviously not as bad as our captain and our half back , 2 important players letting the team down , It’s ok to get rid of Bateman but very hard to replace going off current signings , this week 2 reserve graders , and everyone said once finals are over they will come , well I’m waiting
 
Don't disagree.

But at the same time- if he is slower, less effective, injured etc- we are not getting 26 year old Frizell.

You'd be buying in a guy that is the oldest player in the squad from Day 1. Expectations on him should be realistic. I would expect him to play to the best of his ability. But that might not be the dream some have in mind.
Never, ever, EVER buy a player over 29. Never ever. I know there are exceptions that work for Wayne Bennett, but the odds of any others working out are at least 20:1. Just don't do it.
 
Yep. Next season out; ….. But maybe?
Got to start shopping now, paperwork after Nov 1.
Agitation; can't keep them all under the cap from other clubs comes into play, homesick, be with family, not enough time on the field, bench or KOE, undervalued by incumbent club, swap deals etc. A myriad of reasons.
Fingers crossed for this year. Early strikes for 2026?
When most people that said there is no quality available, they were talking about next year.

Very rare that teams release players they wanted to keep early from their contract. This is almost exclusively a Wests Tigers thing.
 
Purely guesswork here but reading the tea leaves, these are the outgoings I think will occur over the next few weeks ...

1 Jordan Miller (all the rumours & non-club international acknowledgment too coincidental, to Souths or Dogs)
2 Brandon Tumeth (I reckon he won't take up PO & Moses will find him a spot at the Knights)
3 John Bateman (middle grounnd will be agreed & off to Manly he'll go)
4 Adam Doeuihi (Dragons will offer him a 2 year deal & opportunity to be a backup half)
5 One of Brent Naden, Star To'a or Charlie Staines (if we can't find a suitor for Naden then we'll happily release To'a or Staines on full freight)

That will have us at 26 roster spots out of 30 allowing Sione Fainu to be re-signed, and allow us to target another middle, a backrower and left wing.
My info. indicates Miller is in the - top 30 - for 2025 and 2026? A BS rumour that gains traction?
How can he just get out of it that easy this early? When is a contract a contract?
 
My info. indicates Miller is in the - top 30 - for 2025 and 2026? A BS rumour that gains traction?
How can he just get out of it that easy this early? When is a contract a contract?
I'm pretty sure the rumour is that we are moving him on for going against what the club asked from him.. It's not him trying to get out of his contract early
 
Sometimes I wonder......is our Administration really as dumb as they make out...

1) Richo comes out in the media and states Bateman better toe the line yada yada yada...he clearly gives an indication to other clubs Bateman is not wanted by the club....when we let Bateman go mid point last year it was widely reported the WT were hoping to not see him back.... Now its obvious the WT are trying to offload Bateman and other clubs, clued on are milking us to pay as much freight as they can squeeze out of us knowing how desperate we are wanting Bateman gone...

2) Had Richo played it smarter and been absolutely hush hush about his intentions on Bateman, clubs would have been very keen to take him off our hands at a lot less than what we are going to pitch in if they didn't know our desperation to get rid of him!..

Dumb move by RIcho?.....

3) Ontoni Large, he was contracted to the WT till 2025 or 26(?)...he is an up and coming super talent, possibly a generational player, every club would've salivated to get their hands on him...Beacuse he wants to only play in the halves and we are okay in that area, we release him from his contract for him to sign with Manly....

Dumb move by Richo?.....

Surely we could've gotten something in return for releasing Large from his contract...Manly are laughing at our Administration and thanking them at the same time....No other club would've done this bar the WT!....

I thought Richo was smarter than what he has shown here!..just my vent for the night!.. 🙂
Yep, another balls up by Richo, becoming the norm. Richo, playing this Bateman issue out in the media will bite us in the arse much like Dragons and Hunt playing out the same way. Not surprisingly both teams are at the wrong end of the table. Never happen at the Panthers or Storm best signing we could make is Ponisi or Matt Cameron and get rid of the clown show. So over this amateur hour administration. Releasing star juniors just icing on the cake for this bloke
 
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I don't think we can afford to have both Twal and Seyfarth.
Twal is the best forward we have !! O do not get the hate for him, he always runs hard and is an effective defender.. I’m convinced people her do not watch the games themselves and instead just copy the opinions of other posters . Twal is no a problem at West’s Tigers .. Belllamy would make an absolute star out of him
 
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