Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

BAGNF05 said:
Where to start on that one?
Our roster was bent out of shape in around 2017 and we’re only just recovering. The shift back to a development focus in around 2022 was probably the right move but comes with significant pain attached.

The main perpetrators are gone.
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Thats mostly correct, but Benji played a big role this year. He didnt have to start the year with an untested 18 year old steering the ship. He didnt have to give a lot of the kids a run this year but he chose to.
The fact is, Benji told all and sundry that we worked on our defence all off season and it would remain our focus all year long. It was pathetic and ended up being our worst return in the clubs history. You can blame the kids if you want to...if they are playing top grade, they should be able to tackle. If they spent all off season concentrating on defence, they should be able to tackle.
 
BAGNF05 said:
He said himself in a press conference if he thinks it’s best for the club he’ll walk. Bottom four would probably end in that decision in my mind.
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We’ll see … I don’t see too many coaches in any sport voluntarily walk away from their high paid gigs because they think they have performed badly or it’s best for the club… maybe Benji will be the exception though
 
Love_the_WestsTigers said:
Yet to see it at our club.
All we have managed is sacking 2 for turning up for training late. IMO we are clutching at straws there for any excuse possible

We have told other players they are free to leave, they dug their heels in and want to see out their lucrative contracts

Roosters told May he is free to leave, he is leaving. Thats how you piss players off your roster.
I ain’t believing the Richo hard nose approach at our club till I see those tough decisions from him.

To me, and I could be well off the mark, Richo is making decisions in Benjis name.
He hasn’t stamped his authority at the CEO of the club. He has a lot more experience than Benji, shouldn’t think twice about telling Benji who is boss.

We don’t want another spoon, we want strong leadership.
All Benji is delivering is smiles at training.

He is our favourite son and I love him to bits for what he did as a player but it’s time to get serious
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I 100% agree with what you are saying.

Marshall is WAY too soft.
We haven't really had a good cleanout. Just asked our hiring mistakes that we have signed up for 4 years to get contracts elsewhere 1.5 years in!
Richo is a General Manager, tough, but no where near Phil Gould tough.


Yet in Richo's case, is that such a bad thing?
Pro:
We swap people and get a driven roster.
We get a better team.

Con:
we swap players all the time.
players treat us like a flight deck/business (and not Easts, I don't get the loyality there).


Look we need a cleanout. I don't know if we need a butcher cleanout like Parra, Saints, etc.
 
Tucker said:
Thats mostly correct, but Benji played a big role this year. He didnt have to start the year with an untested 18 year old steering the ship. He didnt have to give a lot of the kids a run this year but he chose to.
The fact is, Benji told all and sundry that we worked on our defence all off season and it would remain our focus all year long. It was pathetic and ended up being our worst return in the clubs history. You can blame the kids if you want to...if they are playing top grade, they should be able to tackle. If they spent all off season concentrating on defence, they should be able to tackle.
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We got killed by Canberra in rd 1 when our 500K halfback recruit had a shocker, Galvin held his own. You can blame Benji for that signing partially, although even he admitted that error by signing Luai. And he was at loggerheads with Lee’s secret recruitment manager.

2024 was always a holding year until Benji’s vision and roster actually comes together. Fail this year and the mud will stick.
 
crazycat said:
I 100% agree with what you are saying.

Marshall is WAY too soft.
We haven't really had a good cleanout. Just asked our hiring mistakes that we have signed up for 4 years to get contracts elsewhere 1.5 years in!
Richo is a General Manager, tough, but no where near Phil Gould tough.


Yet in Richo's case, is that such a bad thing?
Pro:
We swap people and get a driven roster.
We get a better team.

Con:
we swap players all the time.
players treat us like a flight deck/business (and not Easts, I don't get the loyality there).


Look we need a cleanout. I don't know if we need a butcher cleanout like Parra, Saints, etc.
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Do we really need another clean out?
We have some good players here.
Train them. Coach them.
 
BAGNF05 said:
We got killed by Canberra in rd 1 when our 500K halfback recruit had a shocker, Galvin held his own. You can blame Benji for that signing partially, although even he admitted that error by signing Luai. And he was at loggerheads with Lee’s secret recruitment manager.

2024 was always a holding year until Benji’s vision and roster actually comes together. Fail this year and the mud will stick.
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All recruitment decisions since the end of 2022 have had his signature on them.
He has been getting the players he wanted for two years and delivered 2 spoons with them. That excuse does not hold water.
 
Tucker said:
All recruitment decisions since the end of 2022 have had his signature on them.
He has been getting the players he wanted for two years and delivered 2 spoons with them. That excuse does not hold water.
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Right. So the signing of the recruitment guy behind his back and year long [This word has been automatically removed] fight never happened.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Right. So the signing of the recruitment guy behind his back and year long [This word has been automatically removed] fight never happened.
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So you believe that guy made decisions that were not run by the coach? They clashed famously. Benji was the man and was above Fulton.
 
Tucker said:
So you believe that guy made decisions that were not run by the coach? They clashed famously. Benji was the man and was above Fulton.
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The whole environment must have been dysfunctional and I’m prepared to give him some rope given he has had some pretty good recruiting wins. We haven’t even seen the biggest one pull on a jersey.
 
BAGNF05 said:
The whole environment must have been dysfunctional and I’m prepared to give him some rope given he has had some pretty good recruiting wins. We haven’t even seen the biggest one pull on a jersey.
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Yes thats true. I am awaiting that as well.
Doesnt discount the fact that he has had a wretched start to his coaching career AS PREDICTED.
 
Tucker said:
Yes thats true. I am awaiting that as well.
Doesnt discount the fact that he has had a wretched start to his coaching career AS PREDICTED.
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Yeah, it’s been bad. No doubt.

I just see so many other reasons for it that I’m not pinning it all on the coach just yet.

Another really poor season and he’ll be gone one way or another.
 
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Tucker said:
Do we really need another clean out?
We have some good players here.
Train them. Coach them.
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We don’t need a clean out . The talent is here . We have to hope and pray , that Benji can find something in this coaching staff , and himself , he hasn’t yet shown , at least not in the wins column .
I don’t see the point in contempt for the nepo hire . It’s done . Hopefully if we do get rid of him next year , and it does go pear shaped , that for once we have all the back room systems and structures in place soo we don’t need a complete broom when the next coach comes in .
But I don’t want to think about that . Because I’m hoping that Benjis ability will be irrelevant. And luai cns lift this team .
Apparently Griffen was/ is the worst coach ever . And he had a top 4 panthers side for a long time .
 
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