Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

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West's Rule said:
Yes and knowing that one of the directors that supported this decision is a Barrister it must be serious.
Classic trolling.
"I know something you all don't... Look at me"
What's the secret?
We're all here to support WTs I thought
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Yeah because lawyers are the most reputable people around. 😛

The way it seems from the outside to me is they were potentially backed into a corner and had to do something a bit dicey for the greater good of WT. The fact is was all 3 doing some illegal seems very odd and points to that. Again, I'd love to know more and maybe it will come out in time.

But I've got no idea mate what is going on. I'm 100% here to support, but you and I probably have a very different view of what supporting means. I deal with governance all day long and all I know is that our prior structure was not enabled for success.

I hope it will change.
 
TIGERS said:
These people are just so weird. It is creepy that some of them have been at each other in some capacity longer than I've been alive.

I'm gonna hold fire (for now) on hate and vitriol towards Julie Romero until we understand what's going on. The HBG group voted unanimously to on the review and its mostly been implemented. There is likely a lot of manoeuvring over the appointment of independent directors. For the most part I don't care about leagues club game of thrones as long as it's kept at the HBG layer and out of the Wests Tigers boardroom. If its a case of the Chair and deputy chair trying to upset board independence, god help them.

I doubt directors would be banned without some kind of clear breach or violation of a code of conduct. I don't think you can just ban people, (let alone directors,) from access to a public venue in NSW just on 'vibes'. its quite an extraordinary step to take, It'll either be something entirely appropriate, OR the act itself is a smoking gun on any chicanery going on.

let's see what we discover.
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I hear you mate. It's a measured approach. But sometimes it's a matter of reading the tea leaves. It can become too late in hindsight. You cannot split the HDB and WT boards, it's really one of the same. They alone dissolved the whole WT board last year. There is no board independence - that would be very nice.

By kicking the other 3 out, they may be looking to revote those 3 roles and consolidate power further.

As I said before, I'd love for them to prove me wrong. I'll come in here and call myself out.
 
cochise said:
The Holman Barnes Group agreed to implement constitutional change at the Wests Tigers that would enable each ownership group to have 1 representative on the board with the other 4 directors being independents. They agreed that these independent directors would be appointed through a recruitment process conducted by a recruitment agency and this process is underway.
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This isn't exactly the case though.

One so called independent director Barry O Farrell was basically appointed by Richardson whilst in an interim capacity.

Formalities are taking place at the recruitment agency.

And as for the other three am I to believe an independent recruitment agency will select and appoint?

Where is the transparency there?

Given the four directors will make up a controlling interest in the entity no wonder HBG are concerned with the governance of this process.

cochise said:
To me the current blow up at the HBG is their matters to sort out and has should have nothing to do with the Wests Tigers or the review process.
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HBG and the previous entity have been very stable and strong for decades.

The ruptures are 100% a by product of the review.

I can't recall anything like this for decades.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
This isn't exactly the case though.

One so called independent director Barry O Farrell was basically appointed by Richardson whilst in an interim capacity.

Formalities are taking place at the recruitment agency.

And as for the other three am I to believe an independent recruitment agency will select and appoint?

Where is the transparency there?

Given the four directors will make up a controlling interest in the entity no wonder HBG are concerned with the governance of this process.


HBG and the previous entity have been very stable and strong for decades.

The ruptures are 100% a by product of the review.

I can't recall anything like this for decades.
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You can't seriously be talking about transparency when discussing anything to do with the HBG board. That is a board that has 2 member elected directors with the other 5 being appointed by the debenture group, that is a group of 20 unknown people who put the vast majority on that board.

lol and you raise transparency issues.

The facts are that the HBG instigated a review into the governance of the Wests Tigers, that review found major governance issues at the club. Such large issues that the recommendation was for the entire board to step down, for the constitution of the Wests Tigers be changed and a new board put in place.

Those are facts.

Your claim that the issues at HBG now are due to the review has no supporting evidence.

Your desire to make this a Wests v Balmain issue shows your agenda on this topic.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
This isn't exactly the case though.

One so called independent director Barry O Farrell was basically appointed by Richardson whilst in an interim capacity.

Formalities are taking place at the recruitment agency.

And as for the other three am I to believe an independent recruitment agency will select and appoint?

Where is the transparency there?

Given the four directors will make up a controlling interest in the entity no wonder HBG are concerned with the governance of this process.


HBG and the previous entity have been very stable and strong for decades.

The ruptures are 100% a by product of the review.

I can't recall anything like this for decades.
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That’s horseshit . HBG and thier in fighting is where all the latest drama has been coming from for the last 5-10 years . Ever since they took over Balmain .
It’s not a Balmain wests thing , it’s a wests -wests thing .
the Balmain wests stuff is a massive red herring .
 
cochise said:
cochise said:
You can't seriously be talking about transparency when discussing anything to do with the HBG board. That is a board that has 2 member elected directors with the other 5 being appointed by the debenture group, that is a group of 20 unknown people who put the vast majority on that board.

lol and you raise transparency issues.

The facts are that the HBG instigated a review into the governance of the Wests Tigers, that review found major governance issues at the club. Such large issues that the recommendation was for the entire board to step down, for the constitution of the Wests Tigers be changed and a new board put in place.

Those are facts.

Your claim that the issues at HBG now are due to the review has no supporting evidence.

Your desire to make this a Wests v Balmain issue shows your agenda on this topic.
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You can't seriously be talking about transparency when discussing anything to do with the HBG board. That is a board that has 2 member elected directors with the other 5 being appointed by the debenture group, that is a group of 20 unknown people who put the vast majority on that board.

lol and you raise transparency issues.

The facts are that the HBG instigated a review into the governance of the Wests Tigers, that review found major governance issues at the club. Such large issues that the recommendation was for the entire board to step down, for the constitution of the Wests Tigers be changed and a new board put in place.

Those are facts.

Your claim that the issues at HBG now are due to the review has no supporting evidence.

Your desire to make this a Wests v Balmain issue shows your agenda on this topic.
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Your flipped answer shows it's not.

Questions relate to WT and not HBG.

No wonder there are concerns.
 
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Magpie_Magic said:
Your flipped answer shows it's not.

Questions relate to WT and not HBG.

No wonder there are concerns.
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What is wrong with you mate ? Honestly . This shits not healthy . You’re literally devoted u conditionally to something that doesn’t exist anymore . Outside of a tokenistic reserve grade team . And a sign .
Even the organisation changed thier name to include Barnes in it . The ships sailed . The issue isn’t some archaic rivalry from the 90s , it’s the morons who sit in these positions being unfit got thier roles .
All of them . Romero , Wayne , Andrecchio , burgess definitely , and maybe Gilbert , but he’s only beeen there a cup of coffee.
It’s literally like watching someone argue the world is flat . It’s nonsense .
 
Lestronge said:
What is wrong with you mate ? Honestly . This shits not healthy . You’re literally devoted u conditionally to something that doesn’t exist anymore . Outside of a tokenistic reserve grade team . And a sign .
Even the organisation changed thier name to include Barnes in it . The ships sailed . The issue isn’t some archaic rivalry from the 90s , it’s the morons who sit in these positions being unfit got thier roles .
All of them . Romero , Wayne , Andrecchio , burgess definitely , and maybe Gilbert , but he’s only beeen there a cup of coffee.
It’s literally like watching someone argue the world is flat . It’s nonsense .
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Carefactor? Guessing?


It just gets worse.


Seen enough.
 
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Magpie_Magic said:
Magpie_Magic said:
Carefactor?

It just gets worse.
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Carefactor?

It just gets worse.
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What does ? Huh ?
Wests magpies are all but dead , except in name alone . Same thing for Balmain . The sooner the club rebrands to wests tigers holistically , the sooner guys like you finally either get 💯 on board , or away . This whole battle stations for a club that’s honestly been dead for 24 years , is not healthy at all . Maybe just maybe you will see , that Cochise is not attacking your memories , and the wests prior to 99 , but rather has an issue with the individuals who are on the board of the governing body of the wests tigers . Like I said that governing body is called Holma Barnes Group . They’re not called wests or magpies .
So this thing you’re fighting for to protect , doesn’t exist .
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Your flipped answer shows it's not.

Questions relate to WT and not HBG.

No wonder there are concerns.
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I really don't know what your issue is, the recruitment is being conducted by an external recruitment agency, much better process than the appointment of the HBG board members, much better process than we had in the past where HBG board members appointed themselves to the Wests Tigers Board.

The lack of accountability of the HBG and was a major issue in the past, I don't want a board where our director can buy their way to a seat. I want a board that is appointed in a professional manner.

Thankfully the HBG agreed with this and we will soon see the new director appointed to the board.
 
I agree with Magpie. The ‘public’ display of the infighting and instability at board level has come about due to review.
Though I disagree with his point that everything was running fine before it. Maybe to run a service club whose main income is generated by a local demographic addicted to pokie machines.
But being the worst on field performing club since the NRL era commenced they have failed at running a football club.
 
Honestly I don't care about the HBG, I don't care about the Balmain Board and I don't care about the Wests Magpies Board. they can all do what they like and run their clubs and junior teams.

I want the highest possible directors for the Wests Tigers Board, I want a professional recruitment process, I want my club to thrive by setting strong standards throughout the club and to be a leader in sport of Australia. Our old outdated setup wasn't capable of achieving that so I wanted change, change I believe we achieved.

I have even been happy with HBG maintaining ownership, I feel that if done correctly the HBG and other ownership groups can be the mechanism for change when the club is performing poorly.

Though if any of the ownership groups want to stop this change then I want them out of our club.
 
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cochise said:
Honestly I don't care about the HBG, I don't care about the Balmain Board and I don't care about the Wests Magpies Board. they can all do what they like and run there clubs and junior teams.

I want the highest possible directors for the Wests Tigers Board, I want a professional recruitment process, I want my club to thrive by setting strong standards throughout the club and to be a leader in sport of Australia. Our old outdated setup wasn't capable of achieving that so I wanted change, change I believe we achieved.

I have even been happy with HBG maintaining ownership, I feel that if done correctly the HBG and other ownership groups can be the mechanism for change when the club is performing poorly.

Though if any of the ownership groups want to stop this change then I want them out of our club.
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I don’t get what the issue is with any of that . They’re conducting a search , the positions will be filled and hopefully we have a vibrant , highly educated , but more importantly professional , experienced , connected board that will be able to work towards us being a massive club again .
 
Lestronge said:
I don’t get what the issue is with any of that . They’re conducting a search , the positions will be filled and hopefully we have a vibrant , highly educated , but more importantly professional , experienced , connected board that will be able to work towards us being a massive club again .
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For some reason people see this as an attack on their old clubs instead of being an attempt to set the Wests Tigers up to be a modern, professional sporting organisation that we can all be proud to support.
 
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