Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

[balmain boy]

The thread title was just the headline from a newspaper article though.

And it was also true.

We need HBG to just step aside from all NRL dealings. Private ownership the only way forward it seems. A decade of abject failure from heartless dictators is all the proof we need.

An independently run board, with HBG providing their token comical input occasionally is the first step towards this.

Yet this all still drags on.

 

[Jolls]

The thread title was just the headline from a newspaper article though.

And it was also true.

We need HBG to just step aside from all NRL dealings. Private ownership the only way forward it seems. A decade of abject failure from heartless dictators is all the proof we need.

An independently run board, with HBG providing their token comical input occasionally is the first step towa rds this.

Yet this all still drags on.

I'm not sure that private ownership is the way forward. What is proposed is workable. A Wests Tigers Board separate to, and not dominated by, HBG. This in theory, with the independents, sets up the Wests Tigers Board to focus on turning the club into one of the top tier clubs in the NRL. With that as their strategic goal if it doesn't support that end it should not be done. That leaves the HBG board to focus on running the clubs it's other interests. I have no doubt that there will be some sort of veto power, no different to a private owner with a board answering to them.

What it will come down to is the quality, integrity and moral courage of the Wests Tigers board. If the board is made up of individuals seeking to develop their personal profile then not much will change; if however, individuals are selected because of the skills that they bring to the table (in accordance witht eh skills matrix) then we could well be on the right track.

I trust that the new WT board is announced before Christmas and it has a mix of quality people that are fully focussed on building a successful club.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

The thread title was just the headline from a newspaper article though.

And it was also true.

We need HBG to just step aside from all NRL dealings. Private ownership the only way forward it seems. A decade of abject failure from heartless dictators is all the proof we need.

An independently run board, with HBG providing their token comical input occasionally is the first step towards this.

Yet this all still drags on.

Obviously your post highlights why this drags on as people are concerned about this whole petition/review process being used in these ways.

The real Wrecking ball to the club will come from attempts at private ownership to reincarnate Balmain as proposed publicly recently by Anthony Field and intimated by BDRLFC and perhaps others who may seek to relocate the club and then perhaps resell it at profit.

Such attempts would fail anyway but will cause ruptures from top to bottom.

Obviously, this dismantles the Wests Tigers as we know them.

It may be the objective of some but hence appropriate push back which has already commenced.

 

[hammertime]

I'm not sure that private ownership is the way forward. What is proposed is workable. A Wests Tigers Board separate to, and not dominated by, HBG. This in theory, with the independents, sets up the Wests Tigers Board to focus on turning the club into one of the top tier clubs in the NRL. With that as their strategic goal if it doesn't support that end it should not be done. That leaves the HBG board to focus on running the clubs it's other interests. I have no doubt that there will be some sort of veto power, no different to a private owner with a board answering to them.

What it will come down to is the quality, integrity and moral courage of the Wests Tigers board. If the board is made up of individuals seeking to develop their personal profile then not much will change; if however, individuals are selected because of the skills that they bring to the table (in accordance witht eh skills matrix) then we could well be on the right track.

I trust that the new WT board is announced before Christmas and it has a mix of quality people that are fully focussed on building a successful club.

100%. This is spot on. HBG and the other clubs have a symbiotic relationship. They get business from, and interact with the community through, Wests Tigers (The only reason I ever went to Ashfield multiple times). In turn, they are there to help fund any shortfalls. That's the league's club model.

It's only about respect for board's leadership. We want the best there. Let's say we're handling our breaches. Fronting a Nick Politis, Greg Alexander or Matt Tripp is a very different story to what we've fielded in the past.

 

[Tigerdazz2]

Apia club was once a good pick up joint.

Not as good as Silverwater Speedboat club!

Like a good surf break, you could always get a ride! 😉

 

[BZN]

I'm not sure that private ownership is the way forward. What is proposed is workable. A Wests Tigers Board separate to, and not dominated by, HBG. This in theory, with the independents, sets up the Wests Tigers Board to focus on turning the club into one of the top tier clubs in the NRL. With that as their strategic goal if it doesn't support that end it should not be done. That leaves the HBG board to focus on running the clubs it's other interests. I have no doubt that there will be some sort of veto power, no different to a private owner with a board answering to them.

What it will come down to is the quality, integrity and moral courage of the Wests Tigers board. If the board is made up of individuals seeking to develop their personal profile then not much will change; if however, individuals are selected because of the skills that they bring to the table (in accordance witht eh skills matrix) then we could well be on the right track.

I trust that the new WT board is announced before Christmas and it has a mix of quality people that are fully focussed on building a successful club.

Does anyone know the name Gary Barnier and if so is/was he connected to our board in some way?

 

[Jolls]

He was one of the guys that did the independent review that led to the sacking of the board.

 

[Spartan117]

Does anyone know the name Gary Barnier and if so is/was he connected to our board in some way?

We should build a statue of this guy.

 

[balmain boy]

I'm not sure that private ownership is the way forward. What is proposed is workable. A Wests Tigers Board separate to, and not dominated by, HBG. This in theory, with the independents, sets up the Wests Tigers Board to focus on turning the club into one of the top tier clubs in the NRL. With that as their strategic goal if it doesn't support that end it should not be done. That leaves the HBG board to focus on running the clubs it's other interests. I have no doubt that there will be some sort of veto power, no different to a private owner with a board answering to them.

What it will come down to is the quality, integrity and moral courage of the Wests Tigers board. If the board is made up of individuals seeking to develop their personal profile then not much will change; if however, individuals are selected because of the skills that they bring to the table (in accordance witht eh skills matrix) then we could well be on the right track.

I trust that the new WT board is announced before Christmas and it has a mix of quality people that are fully focussed on building a successful club.

This also depends on HBG appointing powerful, neutral independents who bring value, ambition and drive to teh club. That's exactly what we need and what the review proposed.

If Romero has dragged her toes to manipulate the process to get a few pansies from her contacts list a gig who'll vote how they're told to vote, then that would be a devastating blow to the club.

To date those currently at HBG haven't shown any inclination to lose power or openly hand it over to strangers, so i'm sceptical until they follow through. HBG need only a tokenistic appointment on the board, Gilbert would seem the only logical option. Half the muppets that were sacked have already weaselled their way back in through a back door. It's not good enough. Pretty much everyone who's ever been on the WT board needs to be blacklisted forever from the WT board.

 

[BZN]

We should build a statue of this guy.

Why is he so famous. I know nothing about him. But his name did ring a bell when it heard it recently.

 

[Jolls]

He is one of the "Foundation 13". They donated $100K tax deductible to create the Wests Tigers foundation and have "lifetime involvement" with the foundation as a result. The Barnier family is also one of the foundation 13, I assume it is the same family. Gary Barnier was also CEO of Australia's largest aged care provider for seven or so years. So he has some expereince with high performing boards and a link to WT.

The foundation 13 are:

1. Lee Hagipantelis
2. John Coates AC
3. Kris Gale
4. Ross Milbourne
5. Bryson Shafer
6. Linda and Phillip Difrancesco
7. Dominic Mastrantuoni
8. Bendigo Bank, Picton
9. Anonymous
10. Murray and James Macdonald
11. Gary Barnier
12. The Barnier Family
13. Exclusive Estate Agents

So we aren't quite rid of the Fedora.

 

[cktiger]

Obviously your post highlights why this drags on as people are concerned about this whole petition/review process being used in these ways.

The real Wrecking ball to the club will come from attempts at private ownership to reincarnate Balmain as proposed publicly recently by Anthony Field and intimated by BDRLFC and perhaps others who may seek to relocate the club and then perhaps resell it at profit.

Such attempts would fail anyway but will cause ruptures from top to bottom.

Obviously, this dismantles the Wests Tigers as we know them.

It may be the objective of some but hence appropriate push back which has already commenced.

Sorry … that’s complete rubbish.
Anthony Field never said he’s trying to do that.
He made a comment as an old Balmain supporter the he wishes he could see them run around again.
He’s not stupid enough not to know who owns the current licence and name… and that’s the NRL.
If you really want to hear some rabid fans pushing their old teams agenda as a single entity then you want to take a look at the Wests Magpies supporter forum.

 

[BAGNF05]

He is one of the "Foundation 13". they donated $100K tax deductible to create the Wests Tigers foundation and have "lifetime involvement" with the foundation as a result. The Barnier family is also one of the foundation 13, I assume it is the same family. Gary Barnier was also CEO of Australia's largest aged care provider for seven or so years. so has some expereince with high performing boards and a link to WT.

The foundation 13 are:

1. Lee Hagipantelis
2. John Coates AC
3. Kris Gale
4. Ross Milbourne
5. Bryson Shafer
6. Linda and Phillip Difrancesco
7. Dominic Mastrantuoni
8. Bendigo Bank, Picton
9. Anonymous
10. Murray and James Macdonald
11. Gary Barnier
12. The Barnier Family
13. Exclusive Estate Agents

So we aren't quite rid of the Fedora.

Sounds to me like we were short about $1.3 million when Pascoe dreamed this one up.

 

[batboy]

Sounds to me like we were short about $1.3 million when Pascoe dreamed this one up.

I think he implemented an idea from the AFL - Ahead of every other NRL club.
Believe I saw Parra has one kicked off this year, I believe there's others.

 

[BAGNF05]

I think he implemented an idea from the AFL - Ahead of every other NRL club.
Believe I saw Parra has one kicked off this year, I believe there's others.

I don’t think it’s a terrible idea.

I do think it highlights his little white lies about us being in a great position financially, which plenty on here bought into.

 

[Merlot]

such a hopeless, useless lot, started demolishing the old Balmain club a decade ago,yet the scar;s remain up right

 

[cochise]

Why is he so famous. I know nothing about him. But his name did ring a bell when it heard it recently.

He isn't famous, he and Tony Crawford were appointed by the HBG to conduct the review into the Wests Tigers in 2023.

Hopefully we hear an announcement soon about the independent directors that are being appointed as one of the major recommendations of that review.

 

[Merlot]

He isn't famous, he and Tony Crawford were appointed by the HBG to conduct the review into the Wests Tigers in 2023.

Hopefully we hear an announcement soon about the independent directors that are being appointed as one of the major recommendations of that review.

Shame Barnier was part of the review, sounds like the type we need chowing down on a free feed

 

[Lestronge]

Sorry … that’s complete rubbish.
Anthony Field never said he’s trying to do that.
He made a comment as an old Balmain supporter the he wishes he could see them run around again.
He’s not stupid enough not to know who owns the current licence and name… and that’s the NRL.
If you really want to hear some rabid fans pushing their old teams agenda as a single entity then you want to take a look at the Wests Magpies supporter forum.

Don’t bother mate ! He’s not interested in reason and logic . He’s just pining for the glory days of a failed club .
Everytime someone engages with him , and his special friend , you give a voice to his nonsense .
It’s gibberish , and meant to divide a clearly uniting fanbase around a new club and new colours .
They revel in maintaining the divide .

 

[BZN]

Not to me and the majority of the fans.

So, Tom Shines feels Balmain Tigers are irrelevant as they only have a 10% stake in WT's and were gifted that anyway, and he's perfectly entitled to his view 'without being abused', whether he is right or wrong.
As you would know there has been many posters on here saying it's not about Balmain or West's, it's all about Wests Tigers.
Now your saying, Balmain Tigers are relevant to "the majority" of the fans.
Did you mean "the majority" of fans on here? as we know WTF is dominated by Balmain aligned people, or did you mean Balmain Tigers are still relevant to "the majority" of old Balmain fans just as West's Magpies are still relevant to "the majority" of old Magpies fans.