Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

[Snidest 0]

Lee being part of the organisation because he is a member of the Founding 13. He is just the same as anyone who has donated; except that their names will be forever enshrined on the website.

And everything else...

 

[innsaneink]

Described as paranoid... I agree.
This is my feelings.

'they' have as much their colours as the Magpies do.

The magpie on the sleeve has gotten bigger not smaller - facts, not feelings.
Nothing worse and weaker than playing the victim which is my feelings here

You old Balmain fans have the tigers colours as well as the Tigers name, while the Magpie emblem seems to be getting smaller in size as well as the gear it's displayed on being less.

 

[Lestronge]

By all means tell us about your feelings - but don't frame them as FACTS when you evidently possess very little insight!!

This has NIL to do with Balmain - it is Wests Magpies aligned directors versus Wests Magpies aligned directors!!

Any pointing the figure at Balmain/Leo/Field etc is just obfuscation to deflect from the blatant dysfunction of the self-serving Magpies-aligned HBG Board members!

Try to base your feelings on reality rather than paranoia and a persecution complex!!

It’s old man screaming at the clouds . He literally goes form person to person every time someone’s new chimes in looking for allies and validation.
I prey for the day that the wests tigers gets rid of the magpies and Balmain forever . And off into the sunset all the dinosaurs will go . I cringe every time I see any reference to these clubs , as if it hadn’t been 25 years .

 

[cochise]

G'day Jolls...you're one of the few on here that are prepared to get their message across without resorting to abuse of anyone that dares to speak from the Wests Magpies pov, and I respect and appreciate that, as I am sure you also respect our right to say what we believe.
It really makes me wonder if the posters that resort to abuse on here are like that at home?
Or are they pussycats at home then pretend to be tough guys on here?

I feel the Mods are failing in their duty to cut out/delete attacks on the person rather than just disagreeing/attacking the views we put forward.

In debate, it's common for one team to aggressively attack the other team to try to get the upper hand, is that what's happening here, being the same as when I was attacked unfairly by Cochise way back in 2019 when I first joined the WTF. And it's been the same over the years when I've posted comments about Wests Magpies, so much so that I felt I had to change my name on here to hopefully stop the number of personal attacks on me.
Most posters will know what my previous name was though.
My special friend.... [as Lestrongee so lovingly called ME] .... @Magpie_Magic however has stuck strong with his name and has had much more abuse directed at him, and very unfairly Imo.
What's wrong with you old Balmain followers. Are you all that insecure in the JV that you have to lash out at anyone that doesn't agree with you.

Wests Magpies seem to have done everything possible to accommodate Balmain into the JV, but it seems to me, that hasn't been accepted or appreciated.
M_M and I have never said we want the Tigers out of the JV.
All I want to see is the Wests Magpies side of our JV receive the recognition they should be entitled to as 90% owners of Wests Tigers.
But to me it seems the Magpies are recognized less each year.
Our training shirts don't display the Magpie and the polo shirt Benji was wearing didn't either.
It seems to me that Balmain Tigers are now Wests Tigers under a different name.
You old Balmain fans have the tigers colours as well as the Tigers name, while the Magpie emblem seems to be getting smaller in size as well as the gear it's displayed on being less.
The only thing we have left is the WESTS name, and I reckon a big majority of fans don't call the team WESTS and don't even associate WESTS with the Tigers anymore.
So, what this means to me in reality, is WESTS Magpies hardly exist anymore.

Now, if you old Balmain people don't mind, I'm going to continue to tell you all what I feel.
And none of you can tell me I'm wrong, because my feelings are unique and legitimate to me, just as your feelings are to you.
Whether I'm right or wrong, they are my feelings, they are what I believe, and I should be entitled to tell my feelings without being abused.

And lastly Jolls, what am I "way of the mark" about?

Mate the only attack you received from me was when you said you wanted our club to return to the Wests magpies name.

I told you that you were wrong for that line of thinking.

I support the Wests Tigers and couldn't really careless about Balmain or the Magpies, the less they both have to do with the running of the club the better.

You talk about being attacked on here while bagging me any chance you get, you don't even have the guts to tag me properly, obviously hoping that I don't see you having another crack.

I will tell you the same thing I told magpies1963 all those years ago. I will stand up to anyone that wants to take my club away so they can return to supporting their failed club.

 

[batboy]

Mate the only attack you received from me was when you said you wanted our club to return to the Wests magpies name.

I told you that you were wrong for that line of thinking.

I support the Wests Tigers and couldn't really careless about Balmain or the Magpies, the less they both have to do with the running of the club the better.

You talk about being attacked on here while bagging me any chance you get, you don't even have the guts to tag me properly, obviously hoping that I don't see you having another crack.

I will tell you the same thing I told magpies1963 all those years ago. I will stand up to anyone that wants to take my club away so they can return to supporting their failed club.

Was wondering which one he was....

 

[BZN]

Learn to read!

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They are ALL aligned with Wests Mgpies FFS!!

This has nothing to do with Balmain - it is petty inflighting between Magpies aligned Board members!

G'day Snidey 🙂 See what a nice friendly greeting that is, as compared to your
"Learn to read!!!" 😢 opening line.

Do you mind me saying I suggest you "learn to spell Snidey"? as in your 3rd paragraph you spelt Magpies without an a, and then infighting with an L or in this case with an l. And your spell check picked up the spelling errors and you just didn't think it was necessary to correct your mistakes. Being a bit sloppy old fella? I hope you don't feel I am being derogatory, insulting, contemptuous or mocking by pointing out your errors, as that would be classed as being snide.

Why do you like to be known as Snidest followed by a zero Snidey?
I may be wrong, but it seems to suggest to me you don't have much pride in the person you are 🙁.
If so, did that come about as being abused as a child? I hope 🤔 that wasn't the case Snidey.
Just remember that there is goodness in all of us, well maybe not in Hitler's case or Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon for that matter 🤣. Some of us just need to dig a little deeper to find that goodness eh!
I'm 77 & 3/4 yoa, and I'm still diggin Snidey.

Rick Wade was a knight in shining armour for the Western Suburbs Magpies all those years ago.
Isn't it a pity your Balmain knight in shining armour being back door benny didn't come to your aid when you needed it most. He instead [to cut a long story short] left Balmain Tigers penniless and broke, what a legend.
But then a little while later a genuine knight in shining armour did appear and come to your aid being Western Suburbs Magpies, who gifted your Balmain Tigers 10% of the Magpies $$$ to keep you afloat. Then in return you gifted the Magpies your Tiger emblem so we could become Wests Tigers. Do you agree with that Snidey?

Anyway, you say Rick Wade, Tony Andreacchio and David Gilbert were aligned to the Magpies.
How do you really know this, who told you?
They may have been aligned to the Magpies, but what does that actually mean?
Were they actively representing and fighting for the Magpies to control the Board? and let's not forget the 90%-10% equation that Balmain people don't seem to like to recognise or take into consideration, but it's a fact of life.
Or were they all maybe actually working against the Magpies in some way for some reason?
Maybe they were aligning themselves with the Balmain board member/s being at least part of the reason they were all suspended by the remaining board members who may be aligned to the Magpies.
I don't know. I really don't know what the truth is.
Just be careful of 'toxic' people who like to bend the truth to try to make themselves more important than they actually are.

So finally, Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers are in a JV and to my knowledge always be.
To my knowledge we will always be Wests Tigers.

I have NEVER said I want the Wests Magpies back in place of Wests Tigers, even though there is 1 person on here that I have zero respect for, that has made spurious claims to the contrary.

 

[Snidest 0]

G'day Snidey 🙂 See what a nice friendly greeting that is, as compared to your
"Learn to read!!!" 😢 opening line.

Do you mind me saying I suggest you "learn to spell Snidey"? as in your 3rd paragraph you spelt Magpies without an a, and then infighting with an L or in this case with an l. And your spell check picked up the spelling errors and you just didn't think it was necessary to correct your mistakes. Being a bit sloppy old fella? I hope you don't feel I am being derogatory, insulting, contemptuous or mocking by pointing out your errors, as that would be classed as being snide.

Why do you like to be known as Snidest followed by a zero Snidey?
I may be wrong, but it seems to suggest to me you don't have much pride in the person you are 🙁.
If so, did that come about as being abused as a child? I hope 🤔 that wasn't the case Snidey.
Just remember that there is goodness in all of us, well maybe not in Hitler's case or Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon for that matter 🤣. Some of us just need to dig a little deeper to find that goodness eh!
I'm 77 & 3/4 yoa, and I'm still diggin Snidey.

Rick Wade was a knight in shining armour for the Western Suburbs Magpies all those years ago.
Isn't it a pity your Balmain knight in shining armour being back door benny didn't come to your aid when you needed it most. He instead [to cut a long story short] left Balmain Tigers penniless and broke, what a legend.
But then a little while later a genuine knight in shining armour did appear and come to your aid being Western Suburbs Magpies, who gifted your Balmain Tigers 10% of the Magpies $$$ to keep you afloat. Then in return you gifted the Magpies your Tiger emblem so we could become Wests Tigers. Do you agree with that Snidey?

Anyway, you say Rick Wade, Tony Andreacchio and David Gilbert were aligned to the Magpies.
How do you really know this, who told you?
They may have been aligned to the Magpies, but what does that actually mean?
Were they actively representing and fighting for the Magpies to control the Board? and let's not forget the 90%-10% equation that Balmain people don't seem to like to recognise or take into consideration, but it's a fact of life.
Or were they all maybe actually working against the Magpies in some way for some reason?
Maybe they were aligning themselves with the Balmain board member/s being at least part of the reason they were all suspended by the remaining board members who may be aligned to the Magpies.
I don't know. I really don't know what the truth is.
Just be careful of 'toxic' people who like to bend the truth to try to make themselves more important than they actually are.

So finally, Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers are in a JV and to my knowledge always be.
To my knowledge we will always be Wests Tigers.

I have NEVER said I want the Wests Magpies back in place of Wests Tigers, even though there is 1 person on here that I have zero respect for, that has made spurious claims to the contrary.

The only actual facts presented in any of your lengthy posts:



Alot of words used to say nothing of any insight or value!

 

[Snidest 0]

Make up your mind @BZN





What do you want?

 

[cochise]

G'day Snidey 🙂 See what a nice friendly greeting that is, as compared to your
"Learn to read!!!" 😢 opening line.

Do you mind me saying I suggest you "learn to spell Snidey"? as in your 3rd paragraph you spelt Magpies without an a, and then infighting with an L or in this case with an l. And your spell check picked up the spelling errors and you just didn't think it was necessary to correct your mistakes. Being a bit sloppy old fella? I hope you don't feel I am being derogatory, insulting, contemptuous or mocking by pointing out your errors, as that would be classed as being snide.

Why do you like to be known as Snidest followed by a zero Snidey?
I may be wrong, but it seems to suggest to me you don't have much pride in the person you are 🙁.
If so, did that come about as being abused as a child? I hope 🤔 that wasn't the case Snidey.
Just remember that there is goodness in all of us, well maybe not in Hitler's case or Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon for that matter 🤣. Some of us just need to dig a little deeper to find that goodness eh!
I'm 77 & 3/4 yoa, and I'm still diggin Snidey.

Rick Wade was a knight in shining armour for the Western Suburbs Magpies all those years ago.
Isn't it a pity your Balmain knight in shining armour being back door benny didn't come to your aid when you needed it most. He instead [to cut a long story short] left Balmain Tigers penniless and broke, what a legend.
But then a little while later a genuine knight in shining armour did appear and come to your aid being Western Suburbs Magpies, who gifted your Balmain Tigers 10% of the Magpies $$$ to keep you afloat. Then in return you gifted the Magpies your Tiger emblem so we could become Wests Tigers. Do you agree with that Snidey?

Anyway, you say Rick Wade, Tony Andreacchio and David Gilbert were aligned to the Magpies.
How do you really know this, who told you?
They may have been aligned to the Magpies, but what does that actually mean?
Were they actively representing and fighting for the Magpies to control the Board? and let's not forget the 90%-10% equation that Balmain people don't seem to like to recognise or take into consideration, but it's a fact of life.
Or were they all maybe actually working against the Magpies in some way for some reason?
Maybe they were aligning themselves with the Balmain board member/s being at least part of the reason they were all suspended by the remaining board members who may be aligned to the Magpies.
I don't know. I really don't know what the truth is.
Just be careful of 'toxic' people who like to bend the truth to try to make themselves more important than they actually are.

So finally, Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers are in a JV and to my knowledge always be.
To my knowledge we will always be Wests Tigers.

I have NEVER said I want the Wests Magpies back in place of Wests Tigers, even though there is 1 person on here that I have zero respect for, that has made spurious claims to the contrary.

Here you go mate, lets have a look at what you had to say

I for one can certainly understand Wests Magpies supporters, of which I have been one since 1963, being upset/let down by the JV finally coming together fully apparently.
Wests Magpies Leagues Club Ashfield was the original supporter of Wests Magpies Football Team.
As I have lived in a regional area of N.S.W. for many years, I haven't been to Wests Ashfield for many years. But from a previous post, it seems the Magpie has been deleted there.
Armies have always marched, fort and died under their flag, a flag in which they have immense pride and loyalty. But now there is no Magpie flag to fight for. It's been replaced with a Tiger flag/emblem.
Right now and suddenly, things just aren't adding up anymore.
The [for the want of a better word] vanquished being Balmain, has actually ended up as the victor, or that's the way it seems to me rite now.
I hope my words are NOT taken as a Magpies V Balmain thing as that is certainly not my intention.
But I DO hope all you Balmain supporters realise how lucky you are, with the Tiger going ahead in perpetuity, while the Magpie is basically no more, having been relegated to the anonymity of the CC.

I think someone that says they are upset about the Joint Venture fully coming together is not putting Wests Tigers first.

The comments about the vanquished and victors paint a picture of how you view this joint venture, it is all about an us vs them attitude for you in our club, this is why the club needs to move on from having Wests and Balmain people running the club.

This was my reply that you have been upset about for the past 5 years.

I'll put this simply for you, we are one club, there are no victors or the vanquished because we are in this together. Anyone who states otherwise will have their motives questioned. Sorry if you find this aggressive but this is MY club and you are happy to sympathize with those who wish to destabilize it and tear it apart.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Don’t bother with this clown mate ! He’s not interested in reason and logic . He’s just an old fool , pining for the glory days of a failed club .
Everytime someone engages with him , and his special friend , you give a voice to his nonsense .
It’s gibberish , and meant to divide a clearly uniting fanbase around a new club and new colours .
They revel in maintaining the divide .

You seem rather forthright with your description of the Wiggle.?

 

[Magpie_Magic]

You didn't read the article? Rick Wayde for starters has been involved with the Wests Magpies since the 80s, Tony Andreacchio was on the Magpies board as well as the HBG board, David Gilbert is a Magpies man as well.

This is pure and simple more infighting amongst one of the ownership groups.

First time I recall infighting of this nature at Wests or HBG for decades.

It's obviously a by-product of the recent happenings.

And honestly can't recall too many Wests/Balmain flair ups either........maybe someone can refer to a major decision that held us back, honestly can't remember such.

But I do agree we need fresh people with different experiences to add to our club.

Joe Cool, Rick Wayde and David Gilbert are a decent measure that probably had alot to do with the current trajectory the club is now taking.

Obviously lost.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Without Wests, Wests Tigers wouldn't be functioning as an entity which I've seen a lot of Balmain people on here acknowledge. I don't understand what more could be done to recognise Wests as an entity to WT's without reverting back to the Magpies? We are Wests Tigers now mate we don't see St George & Illawarra harp on about this crap.

Magpies aren't coming back mate.

But some think Balmain might.

As for Saints there was recently stuff about considerations re dropping the Illawarra from the name.......didn't follow it up but yeah.

 

[cochise]

First time I recall infighting of this nature at Wests or HBG for decades.

It's obviously a by-product of the recent happenings.

And honestly can't recall too many Wests/Balmain flair up either........maybe someone can refer to a major decision that held us back, honestly can't remember such.

But I do agree we need fresh people with different experiences to add to our club.

Joe Cool, Rick Wayde and David Gilbert are a decent measure that probably had alot to do with the current trajectory the club is now taking.

Obviously lost.

I don't disagree with that, I think Danny Burgess, Julie Romero and the clowns at Balmain are issues as well

Only thing I disagree with is that their hasn't been issues recently, there have been issues between HBG and Wests magpies and also between Wests magpies and Wests Tigers.

Shannon Cavanaugh had issues with HBG, Wests Tigers and the Balmain board.

I'm very happy for the ownership structure to remain as long as these people take a step back, let professionals run our club and stop treating the Wests Tigers as their personal plaything.

 

[Snidest 0]

Magpies aren't coming back mate.

But some think Balmain might.

As for Saints there was recently stuff about considerations re dropping the Illawarra from the name.......didn't follow it up but yeah.

Not anyone from Balmain - JUST some cowardly conspiracy theorists from the Magpies loyalists!

 

[Merlot]

With out each other we'd have been swallowed by the Dog's n Parra

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Here you go mate, lets have a look at what you had to say

I think someone that says they are upset about the Joint Venture fully coming together is not putting Wests Tigers first.

The comments about the vanquished and victors paint a picture of how you view this joint venture, it is all about an us vs them attitude for you in our club, this is why the club needs to move on from having Wests and Balmain people running the club.

This was my reply that you have been upset about for the past 5 years.

Agree,

Shame this isn't universally applied throughout forum.

I've read dozens of posts calling for a dropping of the Wests name and even reversion to Balmain on this forum......mostly they are allowed to stand, sometimes upvoted , occasionally the poster is gently reminded not to continue.

Double standards on here, but it is what it is.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Not anyone from Balmain - JUST some cowardly conspiracy theorists from the Magpies loyalists!

Why did BDRLFC come out with that crap recently?

Why did they bring up threats of private ownership and associated the review.?

Straight answers please.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I don't disagree with that, I think Danny Burgess, Julie Romero and the clowns at Balmain are issues as well

Only thing I disagree with is that their hasn't been issues recently, there have been issues between HBG and Wests magpies and also between Wests magpies and Wests Tigers.

Shannon Cavanaugh had issues with HBG, Wests Tigers and the Balmain board.

I'm very happy for the ownership structure to remain as long as these people take a step back, let professionals run our club and stop treating the Wests Tigers as their personal plaything.

Agree, but really I don't think interclub rivalry has caused many issues, till the recent Balmain stuff.

If it wasn't for that the process would be completed I'm sure.

And I think the people in question have the clubs best interests at heart, but certainly agree we need to draw from a larger talent pool which is probably what your aiming for.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

such a hopeless, useless lot, started demolishing the old Balmain club a decade ago,yet the scar;s remain up right

And this is the problem......as majority ownership reluctantly fell on Wests it almost became their fault.

Wests went out of their way to be non threatening/inclusive and came up with the HBG and then they got the recent treachery.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Keith Barnes was part of the Balmain delegation that voted for the Magpies exclusion in the 80s.......but still no grudges from the Wests group and then the recent stuff.

 

[Merlot]

Don't get me started be more than happy to see the Balmain side of it depart ,but it just wont happen.So the WestTigers it is.Growing pains should have happened straight from day 1 ,not still be kicking and screaming into the future 25 years later,that goes for the fan's right to the top in admin,