Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Lestronge]

Hasset is being kept out of grade by Luke garner. Someone who we didn't care about losing. I think were wearing our blinkers on this one.

If NSW Cup, then great. Not a top 30

That’s not because Luke Garner is shit ! That’s because our club was run by the dumbest humans alive , and didn’t see value where there was clear value .
A try scoring edge forward , who runs a good line , and can create indecision in the defence , but has some issues defensively with his positioning . Oh he sucks !
I always rated him . I was spewing we lost him .

 

[Tigerwould]

I don’t like putting down our players , BUT u cant stick ur head in the sand and say there 1st graders when there not

Second row is the biggest weakness IMO (then lock and centre). The other position we are in a better position than last season.
I’m glad we are looking at Hassett for depth. At a young age he looks bigger in the legs than Bateman. Ideally we’d sign a more experienced defensive 2nd rower around the 300-400 mark from a team that has a surplus of backrowers. While a player like Hassett or a WTs junior develops into grade.

 

[Buttface]

Kohli used more shoulder yesterday than Douehi has in his career

Can he kick goals?

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Kohli used more shoulder yesterday than Douehi has in his career

Hope he cops a few bouncers to pull him in line

 

[clontarfkid]

Not everyone coming out of the Penrith system is the next superstar
Staines and Naden havent exactly set the world on fire closer to home,and there are several others scatered thru KOE Cup
Panthers system is a solid platform,but no guarantee.
Seperately,weve just lost 2 seasoned experienced international back rowers...our only definite starting 2nd rower is yet another 20 yo,so It wld be crazy to pair Samuela up with similiar(but less proven)
Need to aim higher for 2025

 

[Roar_Power]

Not everyone coming out of the Penrith system is the next superstar
Staines and Naden havent exactly set the world on fire closer to home,and there are several others scatered thru KOE Cup
Panthers system is a solid platform,but no guarantee.
Seperately,weve just lost 2 seasoned experienced international back rowers...our only definite starting 2nd rower is yet another 20 yo,so It wld be crazy to pair Samuela up with similiar(but less proven)
Need to aim higher for 2025

Yep you're right. I would look for a more seasoned 2nd rower for 2025 and have Hassett replace Tumeth in 2026.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Not everyone coming out of the Penrith system is the next superstar
Staines and Naden havent exactly set the world on fire closer to home,and there are several others scatered thru KOE Cup
Panthers system is a solid platform,but no guarantee.
Seperately,weve just lost 2 seasoned experienced international back rowers...our only definite starting 2nd rower is yet another 20 yo,so It wld be crazy to pair Samuela up with similiar(but less proven)
Need to aim higher for 2025

Naden is a solid outside back just needs to stop the brain farts but needs to hurry up or his career will be over soon next season last chance to impress and continue somewhere.

 

[Bellend]

Hassett has it between the ears where as Tumeth does not. Whereas Hassett wants to play first grade i do not see that in Tumeth, which is the shame.

 

[batboy]

That’s not because Luke Garner is shit ! That’s because our club was run by the dumbest humans alive , and didn’t see value where there was clear value .
A try scoring edge forward , who runs a good line , and can create indecision in the defence , but has some issues defensively with his positioning . Oh he sucks !
I always rated him . I was spewing we lost him .

What?

We played him for 5 years - When other clubs didn't see value in him.
He was overpaid for his output here - And quite rightly we bought over the top of him.
He wasn't prepared to stay here and play second fiddle at the Tigers, So he went Panthers, And plays second fiddle there - For less money....

There's no truth it what you've stated here - We saw value in him, He didn't see the value in staying....
And he's got 2 premiership rings to confirm he was right.

Funnily enough - The same guy the Tigers bought in over him, has just been bought in over him again at the Panthers.
Garner is the perfect Sub 300k bench player / back up back rower in a Strong Side - Wouldn't start in most sides outside ours atm.

 

[426Tlgerland]

Luai should have the bully on this kid , if he is good and better than a few we have Luai will let the coach know to either grab him or pass on him

 

[Lestronge]

What?

We played him for 5 years - When other clubs didn't see value in him.
He was overpaid for his output here - And quite rightly we bought over the top of him.
He wasn't prepared to stay here and play second fiddle at the Tigers, So he went Panthers, And plays second fiddle there - For less money....

There's no truth it what you've stated here - We saw value in him, He didn't see the value in staying....
And he's got 2 premiership rings to confirm he was right.

Funnily enough - The same guy the Tigers bought in over him, has just been bought in over him again at the Panthers.
Garner is the perfect Sub 300k bench player / back up back rower in a Strong Side - Wouldn't start in most sides outside ours atm.

that’s such confirmation bias. If we wanted him we had to up the offer by 150k to keep him, as our main competition was the best team in the comp , coached by the guy who brought him to the tigers from a winger at manly. Let’s call a spade a spade.
The general consensus on this forum , which you’ve tapped into was he was not very good and not worth it .
That logic was echoed by the team management . It’s bullshit . And 500k for Luke garner was not bad business IMO.

 

[batboy]

that’s such confirmation bias. If we wanted him we had to up the offer by 150k to keep him, as our main competition was the best team in the comp , coached by the guy who brought him to the tigers from a winger at manly. Let’s call a spade a spade.
The general consensus on this forum , which you’ve tapped into was he was not very good and not worth it .
That logic was echoed by the team management . It’s bullshit . And 500k for Luke garner was not bad business IMO.

If you think 500k for Garner isn’t Bad Business - pretty clear you’re not in Business.

It’s not confirmation Bias at all, and I never said he wasn’t any good.
I’d swap Tumeth, Matamua, Sukkar and Kit for him tomorrow.

He simply wasn’t a 400k back rower back then, he’s won 2 comps, in the best system in the comp
- and still isn’t a 400k back rower…
to pay him more than that to keep him would have been more stupid than we have been…

 

[Lestronge]

If you think 500k for Garner isn’t Bad Business - pretty clear you’re not in Business.

It’s not confirmation Bias at all, and I never said he wasn’t any good.
I’d swap Tumeth, Matamua, Sukkar and Kit for him tomorrow.

He simply wasn’t a 400k back rower back then, he’s won 2 comps, in the best system in the comp
- and still isn’t a 400k back rower…
to pay him more than that to keep him would have been more stupid than we have been…

Yes he was! Thats why the current premiers paid 330k for him . For us , we’d have had to pay 450-500k. The Gold Coast titans were paying Fifita 1.2m for 4 runs a game . 450-500k for a solid first grader on a 9 mil salary cap is more than reasonable . For reference , Lucy went to NQ for 850k.
You’re logic is stuck in 2010 with our dumbass old board and an ex coach who’s style isn’t meant for the day to day grind of nrl in 2024. Next year I’m very confident of this. Origin doesn’t count because the refs relax the rules .
Can’t wait until round 10 when the broncos are off Madge articles surface.

 

[batboy]

Yes he was! Thats why the current premiers paid 330k for him . For us , we’d have had to pay 450-500k. The Gold Coast titans were paying Fifita 1.2m for 4 runs a game . 450-500k for a solid first grader on a 9 mil salary cap is more than reasonable . For reference , Lucy went to NQ for 850k.
You’re logic is stuck in 2010 with our dumbass old board and an ex coach who’s style isn’t meant for the day to day grind of nrl in 2024. Next year I’m very confident of this. Origin doesn’t count because the refs relax the rules .
Can’t wait until round 10 when the broncos are off Madge articles surface.

No he wasn't
- That's why he's on 275k Now...

And my logic isn't stuck anywhere but here and now....
You're telling me he was worth 50-100k less than the Papalii we bought off Parra?

Smoke another one Bro!!

 

[Lestronge]

No he wasn't
- That's why he's on 275k Now...

And my logic isn't stuck anywhere but here and now....
You're telling me he was worth 50-100k less than the Papalii we bought off Parra?

Smoke another one Bro!!

Ice Papalii ? The same one we moved to lock because he was ineffectual on the edge ? 450k for garner seems right to me. As if he’s on 275k ? Below league average ? Bullshit. There’s no way an nrl club hasn’t come calling for more money , to drive that up.

 

[batboy]

Ice Papalii ? The same one we moved to lock because he was ineffectual on the edge ? 450k for garner seems right to me. As if he’s on 275k ? Below league average ? Bullshit. There’s no way an nrl club hasn’t come calling for more money , to drive that up.

275k is the listed number....
You said he left for 330k - then it was also reported he took a paycut to re-sign with them...
You're the genius here (Clearly) Math seems bout right to me
- I'll leave you to check it though.
Goodluck Supercoach

Bag Papalii all you like - Weather it was him or us, We'll never know.
But I'd bet you weren't so full of wisdom when we signed him for 600k

 

[Lestronge]

275k is the listed number....
You said he left for 330k - then it was also reported he took a paycut to re-sign with them...
You're the genius here (Clearly) Math seems bout right to me
- I'll leave you to check it though.
Goodluck Supercoach

Bag Papalii all you like - Weather it was him or us, We'll never know.
But I'd bet you weren't so full of wisdom when we signed him for 600k

I thought it was an amazing deal considering Luciano got 850 not long after. Hindsight is 20/20.
Listed where ? The salaries aren’t listed anywhere.
The best you can get is player X is earning Y salary. And the clubs are given the average for each position, to compare by the nrl I believe it’s quarterly.
So what are you even talking about ? That’s why the journos are off by so much all the time , and are tipped into things by other clubs and managers like the luai clause.
You’re using things like zero tackle as a source for answers when they’re just a guide .
So Luke garner is earning only 140k above league minimum ? As their starting edge backrower ? I don’t believe it , because he was recruited as such , when they lost Kikau .
Look mn I completely disagree with you , and think there was value there . And I don’t think our old regime saw it . Because I thought by and large they were egotistical maniacs asleep at the wheel . So yea .

 

[batboy]

I thought it was an amazing deal considering Luciano got 850 not long after. Hindsight is 20/20.
Listed where ? The salaries aren’t listed anywhere.
The best you can get is player X is earning Y salary. And the clubs are given the average for each position, to compare by the nrl I believe it’s quarterly.
So what are you even talking about ? That’s why the journos are off by so much all the time , and are tipped into things by other clubs and managers like the luai clause.
You’re using things like zero tackle as a source for answers when they’re just a guide .
So Luke garner is earning only 140k above league minimum ? As their starting edge backrower ? I don’t believe it , because he was recruited as such , when they lost Kikau .
Look mn I completely disagree with you , and think there was value there . And I don’t think our old regime saw it . Because I thought by and large they were egotistical maniacs asleep at the wheel . So yea .

So if i don't know - And you don't know....
Why are we here?

ps: Garner joined the Club in 2016/17 Pre-Season (6 months Before Cleary)
pps: In what world is Luke Garner the 'Starting back Rower' over the Internationals of Sorenson and Martin - (We're not even talking Ice over there yet)

Who told you he was recruited to replace kikau (With Sorenson and Martin still there)
- The journos you're shitting on above.

What's that big fancy word you're using for people remembering things to support their POV?

You can disagree all you like - There's 17 Clubs, If Garner was worth close to 500k a year, He be at one of them on exactly that.
Furthermore, he's now 4th choice at Panthers - News Flash, Premiers don't pay their 4th best back Rowers close to 1/2 a million bucks.

 

[Tito Santana]

Can he kick goals?

Be good to get the Indian population behind us. I’m a fan of their food.

I’d be happy to participate in the half time curry muncher stakes.

 

[Canadian Club]

Hassett would be a good pick up. While he is small and undersized, he is tough and plays above his weight. He is very mobile is probably fits the modern game moreso than the old school forwards.

I believe he is around 183cm-184cm which is around the same height as Liam Martin. He is young should bulk up in the next season or two. He is already physically bigger than Tumeth and played a full season in Cup.