Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

[Tucker]

I have said before that there is a concerted effort to destroy the WT joint venture. I have stated before that I believe that includes collusion between some of the media, some in the NRL and unfortunately some from within the club itself.

Today's "Revelation" from "The Mole" that some on the Balmain board are considering an approach from South Island to form a 2nd Kiwi team/Balmain joint venture just solidifies my belief that this collusion to destroy the Wests Tigers is in top gear........sadly just as the future (on field) is starting to look so bright.

Welll….it’s been a good run…

 

[BalmainJnr]

I think the only thing sadder about 23 was watching Sheens being revealed as a fluker.
I used to think he had some coaching tricks up his sleeve. That he could pull a brillant play or get things going. ...

By 23 and maybe all the time, he had no idea.

22 was worse. Seeing us beg for the spoon, firing Madge early to bring in Kimmorley and throw him NRL's worse hospital pass. No idea what we were thinking.

Odd conspiracy theory, Sheens and Fulton were trying to get at each other with our bad 4 year signings.

The entire club committed to losing.

 

[jirskyr]

Some poor intern working through the holidays,
it's just recycling moles bullshit fortunately lol

Classic Fox, publish or co-opt an opinion piece and then run it a second time to generate double the "content" from one opinion.

 

[innsaneink]

I have said before that there is a concerted effort to destroy the WT joint venture. I have stated before that I believe that includes collusion between some of the media, some in the NRL and unfortunately some from within the club itself.

Today's "Revelation" from "The Mole" that some on the Balmain board are considering an approach from South Island to form a 2nd Kiwi team/Balmain joint venture just solidifies my belief that this collusion to destroy the Wests Tigers is in top gear........sadly just as the future (on field) is starting to look so bright.

I really wouldnt give much weight to that rubbish this morning

 

[Yossarian]

They are deluded if they think people are going to jump ship to watch a team called South Island Kea play 50% of games at Leichhardt because they have a background affiliation with Balmain.

No one in Sydney will support that team, let alone old Balmain fans.

Might I mention, it will be 25 years worth of only Wests Tigers fans that will also not support that team or a Magpies team.

The fan base of a Magpies franchise will be also be minimal if they go it alone.

The only answer for fans is to keep the current club and try to force change through a strong supporters voice.

These are side issues that distract from the core problem. All these other rumblings go away if the core issues are resolved.

I really, really doubt this will ever be an issue but if there’s a Western Suburbs Magpies playing zero games at Leichhardt and another team called the Tigers wearing an orange jersey playing 7 games at Leichhardt, there’d likely be a significant amount of people who’d jump ship. I think you underestimate the danger there.

On the other hand, there is basically zero clamour from this from the former Balmain fan base. Even BDRLC members aren’t pushing this.

 

[BZN]

Geez you’re manipulative ! You refuse to answer the basic question , about Burgess . Yet continue with this nonsense . It’s so transparent !
Answer the question!!!
I’ve asked for you to be banned multiple times . You offer nothing ! Outside of the warped opinions of someone who’s stuck in 1999 .

I think that would signal the end of the club and probably my support too.

It was a media beat up.

💯 a media beat up @Magpie_Magic.

 

[BZN]

@BZN you didn't answer my question, are you happy with Burgess on the Wests Tigers board? I think we deserve to know if we can be confident in your impartial opinion.

I'm sorry Cochise, but don't you dare talk to me about my impartial decision as Imo you would be the most biased poster on here, but of course not biased in favour of anything positive re. the Magpies.
I remember writing a post in return to one of your negative comments about the Magpies soon after I arrived in this place, and I went on to say with you being Cochise the mighty and brave Indian warrior, that you should be representing all your tribe, not just 1/2 of it.

 

[Rugba]

Got a mate who's a Parra loyalist, Has been through the same thing with self serving Boards etc.
Reckons we're about 18 months from where they got to before change was enforced.

Really ?? So we can expect there to be allegations of fraud to cheat the salary cap.

 

[BZN]

Should we leave it with the likes of you?
- Who's clearly not a Wests Tigers supporter.

batboy, if you were prepared to read my posts in an unbiased way and with an open heart, you would clearly see I AM a WT's supporter and have been since 2000.
And this is the last time I will defend my position re. WTs to anyone.

 

[BZN]

Someone has to teach these idiots how to run a Football Club - It's obviously beyond them on their own.

Give yourself a big pat on the back batboy, as I am sure you would be better than any idiot.
But the final decision as to how much better you are, is in your hands entirely.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Seriously???

You continue to ignore the context of the gross over-representation of a small group of faceless debenture holders on the HBG Board - where they are able to install a permament voting block of FIVE directors with only two popularly elected Directors representing the members!

The debenture holders are NOT the sole OR majority owners of HBG - but STILL control 71.4% of Board appointments!

The HBG ownership includes the 17 active debenture holders - and 27,000 voting members of the registered club under the Registered Clubs Act 1976...

Meaning that on a per capita basis the current debenture holders represent 0.0006% of the total ownership - but have a 71.4% controlling stake in the Board!

As @BZN likes to repeat - surely any fair-minded, unbiassed individual can see that this archaic governance model where 17 debenture holders (20 when at full capacity) - have exactly 2.5X the representation on the Board compared to the 27,000 financial members with just 2 is prone to abuse and is entirely unrepresentative of the broader ownership!

All Directors are still bound by the HBG constitution and their Directorial fiduciary duties under ASIC regulations plus the Registered Clubs Act - and that is where Liquor & Gaming NSW will focus any investigations.

Given there are currently public allegations that:

1) The Board acted improperly in suspending the two elected Directors on trumped up & petty charges - due to an undisclosed private agenda

2) The Board did not mandatorily report/investigate an inappropriate workplace incident between a continuing Board member & a club staffer at Ashfield (as per Rick Wayde on Youtube)

3) The Board unanimously voted for a governance review into their subsidiary asset WT (following a petition) - but one Director did not avail herself to the review and has been obstructive to implementation of the recommendations (while making public statements to the contrary)

4) The Chair has since sent threatening emails to the new WT CEO to ensure that the interim Board remains in limbo while the HBG Board continue to undermine the independent skills-based selection process that they publically endorsed).

5) The Board failed in its fiduciary duty when it cancelled the recruitment contract for the Independent WT Directors due to internal politics. With a second tender process leading to re-appointment of the same company who won BOTH contracts on merit!

Note: This duplication not only further delayed the implementation of the independent WT Board - but the huge financial cost of two contracts with the recruitment company and a second tender comes from the members funds (NOT the debenture holders)!

6) Dennis Burgess is an agitator for a Magpies revival - and is unfit as a Director

FACT: The new Chair reinstated Dennis Burgess as the WSDRLFC rep on the WT Board against the review recommendations when the debenture rep Directors executed a coup against Andreacchio!!

While I am happy to stress that points 1-6 above are all just "allegations" - Liquor and Gaming NSW have plenty to sink their teeth into.... and the petition will only help to bring it to their attention!

To those sitting on the fence - ask yourself this:

If any of the above allegations that besmirched them (published in SMH and podcast via Youtube) were GENUINELY untruthful & defamatory to the "Gang of 4"- why haven't Denny and Julie et al - OR HBG as a legal entity engaged a legal team to have the articles/podcast taken down under a concerns notice??

Hint: truth & public interest are defence in a defamation suit!

If not for the initial petition (& I was a doubter) = and subsequent independent governance review - the Axis of Mediocrity aka Hagipantelis/Pascoe would still be at Concord and our 2025 squad would still have fricking Nofa on $500K....

Get that into your thick skulls!!

Thanks for the easy to read summary 👌🏻

 

[Tucker]

batboy, if you were prepared to read my posts in an unbiased way and with an open heart, you would clearly see I AM a WT's supporter and have been since 2000.
And this is the last time I will defend my position re. WTs to anyone.

If you cared, you would want change.
Look at the decisions made since the board has become WA/HBG dominated.
No one is calling for ownership change. No one is wanting power change.
We want the deadwood removed from the Wests Tigers board and competent people put in their place. If they all come from Wests, so be it….as long as they can also be turfed if they don’t work out.

 

[cochise]

I'm sorry Cochise, but don't you dare talk to me about my impartial decision as Imo you would be the most biased poster on here, but of course not biased in favour of anything positive re. the Magpies.
I remember writing a post in return to one of your negative comments about the Magpies soon after I arrived in this place, and I went on to say with you being Cochise the mighty and brave Indian warrior, that you should be representing all your tribe, not just 1/2 of it.

Mate, that post was mimicking a post you wrote about me so you just called yourself out lol.

 

[cochise]

batboy, if you were prepared to read my posts in an unbiased way and with an open heart, you would clearly see I AM a WT's supporter and have been since 2000.
And this is the last time I will defend my position re. WTs to anyone.

But you would love for the Magpies to return lol

 

[BZN]

Dennis should stick to the Cyndi Lauper look-a-like competitions and bugger off from any involvement in the club.

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Why are people so down on Dennis's looks or anyone's looks for that matter.

If your comment was a one-off comment, I would realise you were attempting humour, but there have been so many people putting him down it just aint funny anymore.
With your attitude I can imagine you making disparaging comments about someone who wears a turban next.

The real measure of a person is not how intelligent they are, or how sexy a girl looks or if a bloke is handsome like Adonis, it's what's in a truly decent person's heart and how caring they are about their flock that matters the most.

But I guess if you or anyone else has criticized everything about a person's personality, the only thing left is their looks to have a crack at.
And I would be truly surprised if you knew Dennis well enough to judge him fairly.

 

[Jux]

It’s only a rort if your not in it.

I think you’ve just quoted the debenture holder mantra.

 

[innsaneink]

You have. There’s a name for this relentless and pointless “just asking questions”.

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This describes bnz to a T
This is quite serious behaviour imo and not really in the spirit of this forum

 

[Batmans Parents]

batboy, if you were prepared to read my posts in an unbiased way and with an open heart, you would clearly see I AM a WT's supporter and have been since 2000.
And this is the last time I will defend my position re. WTs to anyone.

No, you’re not a WT supporter. You, like Dennis, are nothing more than a malignant tumour who needs to be cut out of the Wests Tigers if they are to survive.

The sooner that out-of-touch geriatrics like yourself and Dennis are wheeled into a nursing home where you can go on about the 1952 premiership, the better off the club will be.

 

[hammertime]

I have said before that there is a concerted effort to destroy the WT joint venture. I have stated before that I believe that includes collusion between some of the media, some in the NRL and unfortunately some from within the club itself.

Today's "Revelation" from "The Mole" that some on the Balmain board are considering an approach from South Island to form a 2nd Kiwi team/Balmain joint venture just solidifies my belief that this collusion to destroy the Wests Tigers is in top gear........sadly just as the future (on field) is starting to look so bright.

Thats why all of us who see the bright future need to shout down these one eyed dinosaurs and get this club in order. No more will our club be controlled by blazer wearing hacks.

Im personally not going to stop until the club has proper governance installed. Enough is enough. Wests tigers is the way forward and we need this fixed before the 2025 season.

 

[Jux]

That’s true but it is subjective nonetheless.

But this petition goes above HBG WA members. When those members signed on, they became members subject to the constitution and by laws of the club.........whose structure has existed for decades.

Probably, most people signing the petition aren't even members of WA.

If you have a question bring it up for vote at WA.

Perhaps we could petition for the return of Wayde, and Gilbert?

Or the exclusion of Burgess and Romero.

But you can't call into question the way the club is set up. 30k have signed up under conditions as they are.

Not sure how many of those 30k members would have read the club’s constitution before signing up for a cheap feed and to plonk a lobster into the one armed bandits. (I certainly didn’t !)
I assumed (maybe naively) that social membership let you use the facilities and general members determined who sat on the board. If this petition is the catalyst for ending this farcical debenture voting system, then I’m all in.