Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

[batboy]

Yes you can knock him mate , that was shit house , and again look at me look at me , idiot flog

Keep in mind he'd have been (or lining up to be) a Wests Ashfield Director around this point....
(And probably already a Magpies Director)

 

[TigerJunior4]

If it were close the that good, I'd have let it slide....
Whatever score you give that out of 10, then Minus 10
- Would get you close to where it was.

It was Rank!!
I've tried to find it, Came up with nothing (You can thank me later)

😂 well if it was worse than his performance on the Footy Show I’ll definitely have to thank you for not sharing.

 

[cktiger]

Gee there is a lot of generalisation and possible misinformation being bandied around on this BTF.
And Yuh know what that does, it incites the easily led amongst us to very often reach the wrong conclusion at this time of heightened tension.

That wasn't a generalisation... it was a fact.
All your responses prove is that you and 'Denny' are birds of a feather... in this case Magpies..

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Wow …. 183 pages.
Some loser journalist with agenda against WT posts an article with e-mail rumoured bit of crap a day before he piss-off on holidays ….. and this is what you can only call “ Hook Line and sinker”.
Bit of old time advice people …. “take a Bex and have lie down” and all will be better.
Happy New Year

 

[BZN]

Seems to mostly be older Magpies fans stoking the division? 🤔

How can you say that P_b? Show us the definite proof that what you claim is true.
Otherwise, your intention is to just to stoke the fire.

I don't know what goes on behind closed doors, do you?

The three backstabbing turncoats that have recently been suspended seem!!! to be stoking the division to me, and to me the interview that Rick Wade did was absolutely disgusting.
If that's typical of the way he conducts himself in board meetings, he fully deserves to be suspended to hopefully never return Imo.

 

[diedpretty]

FYI I spoke with the agency running the recruitment of independent directors.

Told me off the record it’s a shit show and a stitch up.

So there you go.

I know the guy running it.

The simple fact is Romero and burgess are an issue.

The HBG structure is an issue.

Until it gets resolved it’s never going to be smooth sailing.

As for people like BZN - I’m all for free speech - but maybe would be good to block or cull anyone on this forum who supports a magpies or Balmain revival.

Cheerio

Sounds to me like they are pretty unprofessional as well.

 

[batboy]

How can you say that P_b? Show us the definite proof that what you claim is true.
Otherwise, your intention is to just to stoke the fire.

I don't know what goes on behind closed doors, do you?

The three backstabbing turncoats that have recently been suspended seem!!! to be stoking the division to me, and to me the interview that Rick Wade did was absolutely disgusting.
If that's typical of the way he conducts himself in board meetings, he fully deserves to be suspended to hopefully never return Imo.

He was the golden saviour this time last year (And for the last 40)
You turn quick you blokes (But not as often as you should)

 

[Tom Shines]

He was the golden saviour this time last year (And for the last 40)
You turn quick you blokes (But not as often as you should)

Thread 'Rick Wayde the magpie saviour and ours now.'

Apr 9, 2018

Don't know if anyone remembers the full story. I don't but remember enough. I will say this, there would be no Wests Tigers if not for this bloke. Magpies got kicked out twice back in that time but Rick wade fought with grit and balls and never gave up untill he was sure the magpies got reinstated. They did and struggled for years with the same crap. No money and developing great players that just got bought. Tommy tried his hand and I'm sure he got them to the finals one year. Even believe he had Terry lamb taken out at a game at cambo. Wests won that night. I was there. My point is that...

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[diedpretty]

😂😂 so what if the video was from 7 years ago?

You seem pretty angry today. Maybe try to calm down a little hey?

Here you go - a video from 17 years ago. Maybe you can add this to your agenda

 

[innsaneink]

A WTs supporter who followed the Mighty Magpies prior to becoming a WTs supporter cops heaps on here innsaneink.
And I've found the only way to stop that is by being very polite to the Balmain mob or as you said "using the ignore function"...and I had about a dozen on ignore because I was sick and tired of so many 💩 posts.
I also wasn't true to myself in that I changed my name from MAGPIES 1963 to BZN to try to stop all the garbage coming my way due to my name having MAGPIES in it.
My good friend 😂 Cochise even went to the extent of starting a thread called "I HATE MAGPIES", and while I'm sure it was an attempt at humour, due to the manner he replied to me in many posts previous to that, the disguised intent was definitely there.

Im a Lidcombe era Magpie originally... Grew up in Ashfield went to school next to Wests Leagues, was a Wests junior playing for Holman... Yappy presented me my one and only trophy.
Played school footy in jerseys donated from Wests Leagues.
I cop nothing but respect on here nowadays... Early days I was very argumentative... You could say I asked for whatever I copped... 20 years ago.
I like to think I've matured a bit as I've grown and mums words were true... Treat people like you wanna be treated.
Plenty of ex Magpies here don't "cop heaps"... That is just playing a victim card.
Point is you get what you give but sealions know this.

 

[cktiger]

Here you go - a video from 17 years ago. Maybe you can add this to your agenda

Christ!
I hope he didn't get paid for that 😂

 

[diedpretty]

Hey I was just genuinely concerned about your wellbeing given the oddness of your posts.

It came from a place of care. Honestly

Rubbish - show me where my post was odd - all i did was call bullshit on your post because you referred to something the guy said 7 years ago and had no relevance whatsoever to his performance today as board member.

 

[batboy]

Sounds to me like they are pretty unprofessional as well.

As well?

As well as who?

 

[KevB]

Seriously???

You continue to ignore the context of the gross over-representation of a small group of faceless debenture holders on the HBG Board - where they are able to install a permament voting block of FIVE directors with only two popularly elected Directors representing the members!

The debenture holders are NOT the sole OR majority owners of HBG - but STILL control 71.4% of Board appointments!

The HBG ownership includes the 17 active debenture holders - and 27,000 voting members of the registered club under the Registered Clubs Act 1976...

Meaning that on a per capita basis the current debenture holders represent 0.0006% of the total ownership - but have a 71.4% controlling stake in the Board!

As @BZN likes to repeat - surely any fair-minded, unbiassed individual can see that this archaic governance model where 17 debenture holders (20 when at full capacity) - have exactly 2.5X the representation on the Board compared to the 27,000 financial members with just 2 is prone to abuse and is entirely unrepresentative of the broader ownership!

All Directors are still bound by the HBG constitution and their Directorial fiduciary duties under ASIC regulations plus the Registered Clubs Act - and that is where Liquor & Gaming NSW will focus any investigations.

Given there are currently public allegations that:

1) The Board acted improperly in suspending the two elected Directors on trumped up & petty charges - due to an undisclosed private agenda

2) The Board did not mandatorily report/investigate an inappropriate workplace incident between a continuing Board member & a club staffer at Ashfield (as per Rick Wayde on Youtube)

3) The Board unanimously voted for a governance review into their subsidiary asset WT (following a petition) - but one Director did not avail herself to the review and has been obstructive to implementation of the recommendations (while making public statements to the contrary)

4) The Chair has since sent threatening emails to the new WT CEO to ensure that the interim Board remains in limbo while the HBG Board continue to undermine the independent skills-based selection process that they publically endorsed).

5) The Board failed in its fiduciary duty when it cancelled the recruitment contract for the Independent WT Directors due to internal politics. With a second tender process leading to re-appointment of the same company who won BOTH contracts on merit!

Note: This duplication not only further delayed the implementation of the independent WT Board - but the huge financial cost of two contracts with the recruitment company and a second tender comes from the members funds (NOT the debenture holders)!

6) Dennis Burgess is an agitator for a Magpies revival - and is unfit as a Director

FACT: The new Chair reinstated Dennis Burgess as the WSDRLFC rep on the WT Board against the review recommendations when the debenture rep Directors executed a coup against Andreacchio!!

While I am happy to stress that points 1-6 above are all just "allegations" - Liquor and Gaming NSW have plenty to sink their teeth into.... and the petition will only help to bring it to their attention!

To those sitting on the fence - ask yourself this:

If any of the above allegations that besmirched them (published in SMH and podcast via Youtube) were GENUINELY untruthful & defamatory to the "Gang of 4"- why haven't Denny and Julie et al - OR HBG as a legal entity engaged a legal team to have the articles/podcast taken down under a concerns notice??

Hint: truth & public interest are defence in a defamation suit!

If not for the initial petition (& I was a doubter) = and subsequent independent governance review - the Axis of Mediocrity aka Hagipantelis/Pascoe would still be at Concord and our 2025 squad would still have fricking Nofa on $500K....

Get that into your thick skulls!!

It's amazing what you can create with figures, but I think you may have your numbers wrong in terms of voting members. Social members usually do not have voting rights in licensed clubs in NSW. The HBG 2023 Annual Report indicates 26,951 social members out of a total of 27,524 members. The former Chair Tony Andreacchio certified this report
Surely any fair-minded person would fact-check this with the regulator of the Registered Clubs Act 1976 before posting it as FACT.

 

[Tom Shines]

Rubbish - show me where my post was odd - all i did was call bullshit on your post because you referred to something the guy said 7 years ago and had no relevance whatsoever to his performance today as board member.

what difference does it make if it’s 7 years ago though? The guy has been associated with HBG, the Magpies and Wests Tigers for a lot longer than 7 years .., he should be a supporter of the Wests Tigers if he agrees to hold that position

 

[Telltails]

How can you say that P_b? Show us the definite proof that what you claim is true.
Otherwise, your intention is to just to stoke the fire.

I don't know what goes on behind closed doors, do you?

The three backstabbing turncoats that have recently been suspended seem!!! to be stoking the division to me, and to me the interview that Rick Wade did was absolutely disgusting.
If that's typical of the way he conducts himself in board meetings, he fully deserves to be suspended to hopefully never return Imo.

The back stabbing turncoats you refer to were stabbed in the back first

The truth is you will never see what you don't want to.

 

[cochise]

Keep in mind he'd have been (or lining up to be) a Wests Ashfield Director around this point....
(And probably already a Magpies Director)

He has been a Wests Ashfield director for over 20 years.

 

[hammertime]

His looks certainly don’t help similar to Hagipantelis with his fedora. I think some self-awareness about the way you present yourself is expected at that level.

Similar to criticism of Pascoe and his laid back attire. As an executive in a corporate setting, presentation and looking the part is a requirement.

From my perspective, I’m focusing on Burgess because he was parachuted back onto the board after agreeing to step down only a few months earlier. Apart from being disingenuous, this created turn-over and instability at a board level and didn’t allow sufficient time for interim board to implement the review recommendations in full.

The remarks about turning the club into the Wests Magpies were delusional and damaging. You can’t have a board member saying those things.

The complaint about being told he’s in the wrong corporate box is laughable (at best) and the fallout has created friction that has bled into the Wests Tigers and ultimately damaged the clubs brand further.

Lastly Burgess is by far and away the least qualified person on the Wests Tigers board. When you look at the required skills and experience needed to run a successful rugby league franchise, musician is certainly not one of them.

I agree he’s not the only issue. There’s a multitude of board members that have run the club into the ground since its inception. Since 2015/2016 all the Wests Tigers board members have performed woefully and Hagipantelis was disgusting.

However at least a few of them could understand it was time to step aside and pursue an optimal governance structure for the betterment of the club. It’s a shame people like Burgess and Romero still treat the club as their personal plaything and put personal gain over what’s best for the Wests Tigers.

The more anger inducing part here is his clear involvement with halting the review and trying to kick out the other 3 directors. Reinstalling himself on the WT board over far more qualified candidates.

If he wanted to be loved, he could have supported pushing through the recommendations. We would rever old dennis for putting the club above his blazers.

Alas, that's not the case and here we are...

 

[TigerJunior4]

The more anger inducing part here is his clear involvement with halting the review and trying to kick out the other 3 directors. Reinstalling himself on the WT board over far more qualified candidates.

If he wanted to be loved, he could have supported pushing through the recommendations. We would rever old dennis for putting the club above his blazers.

Alas, that's not the case and here we are...

I completely agree. He and Julie are both stonewalling it, with Julie attempting to halt it and shift blame back onto the football department before the review was even finalised.

There were far more qualified candidates on the board prior to Dennis reinstating himself or HBG reinstating him as their rep I should say.

 

[BZN]

HBG are successful? Hmm, not so sure about that. They have a club full of pokies that they get the local Asian residents to frequent. That's it, their one and only thing they've ever succeeded in. wests Ashfield is a crap hole, and the others clubs are a joke. Sure they make some profits by milking residents for all they can, great business model, shows true strategic insights.

Everything HBG have had to go with the NRL had been a spectacular failure, and they're involvement with the club had only dragged us further down. No benefit for WT to having HBG involved whatsoever. None..

You still haven't told us which board member you are. I'm thinking Montgomery? Cook? You can DM me if you don't want to publicly disclose.

First things first, we need Burgess and Monty off our board. And Stapleton. Then add 3 independents, then another 3.

Gilbert is the only remotely qualified person on the HBG board.

There is no need for anyone from Wests or Balmain on the WT board. There's really only one person from either club who's remotely qualified, and that's Wayne Pearce who's got his experience with the ARLC.

Your post is full of venom isn't it bb.

I feel pretty sure races other than Asian's frequent the club, and I'm also pretty sure people from outside the local area would frequent the club as well, just as they would if there was a Balmain Leagues Club for them to go to. But wait.......there's more.......I'm guessing you are a local having a name like balmain boy, and if that is the case your local footy club is Wests Ashfield, but you hate Wests Ashfield.

Why is it that when anyone from the Magpies side of our JV i.e. @Magpie_Magic or me or anyone else come on here and speak strongly from a Magpies p.o.v. we are accused of all sorts of stuff. Now your suggesting M_M is a board member, because you hate the board, your putting him down, and I reckon that's pretty ordinary on your part.

I have to admit though you have a darn good sense of humour 😁, and this is the really funny part 🤡 ..."there is no need for anyone from Wests [or Balmain] on the Wests Tigers board".
I'm pretty sure Wests Magpies have a 90% stake in WTs, so I think it's highly unlikely that the stake holders would agree to zero board representation.

Would you like your next door neighbor to handle all your family's affairs including recommending very strongly how and when and how much you are allowed to spend.

And then you want only independents to run the show, whoopedee that's really really really funny 🙃🙃🙃.

Ahh sorry bb, I forgot you suggested ex Balmain player Wayne Pearce for the board, and I have as much respect for him as I do John Dorahy, both good and decent blokes and would be good on our board 👍👍.
But I don't feel we will ever have a board of independents + a Balmain rep.
If we did go that way though, who would you want to replace Pearce if and/or when he retires from the board.......back door Benny 😱😛😀😂.......give me a break please.