Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

I feel you can say the same about Bird. We’ll see I guess.
Out of all WTs recent signings, Bird is the one that concerns me most, much like Olam the previous season I'm worried that he's a bit of a croc.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he carves it up, but I'm not so confident.
 
Out of all WTs recent signings, Bird is the one that concerns me most, much like Olam the previous season I'm worried that he's a bit of a croc.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he carves it up, but I'm not so confident.
His signing in a vacuum is a bit of a concern. The other signings around him has papered over it imo.
 
Well, he's at a good team now soon see if he can find his parra form.
He’s odds on to play better, at a team he wants to be at.
He signed under Madge, then the media circus that pretty much brainwashed him into not wanting to be here, then the Sheens fiasco, fruit pascals and Lee fiasco, no metal cutlery?
The list goes on and on, and that’s just since he’s been here.
But in saying all that, he didn’t really man up till he signed for the riff.
 
I agree with u 100% , even if the forced his hand u don’t don’t let people walk unless u are 100% certain that u have a replacement lined up
You do if keeping them on causes other issues. Bateman had to be gotten rid of no matter what. On balance, being lighter in one position is better than having a bloke who's a known dressing room Cancer destabilizing the whole culture
 
Out of all WTs recent signings, Bird is the one that concerns me most, much like Olam the previous season I'm worried that he's a bit of a croc.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he carves it up, but I'm not so confident.
His salary isn't huge though. Under the previous management he'd have been signed on double what we signed him for and it would have been a massive worry
 
Yes its a strong point mate but was he the answer at backrow only played a couple of good games there not much better than anyone else we used in his spot but I get it dilutes the backrow depth.
His defence was 1st class , his line breaking was terrible, but with our new backline I would have loved to see how he would have gone
You do if keeping them on causes other issues. Bateman had to be gotten rid of no matter what. On balance, being lighter in one position is better than having a bloke who's a known dressing room Cancer destabilizing the whole culture
we not talking about Bateman , we are about papa , but on ur last point u would rather have crap kids than a bloke like Bateman who didn’t miss many tackles , attack was terrible, this why we have 3 wooden spoons we let player after player walk out the door but never replace them
 
True BP we are light atm, Richo has said its the long game at the club, we are short in 25, iv no doubt that'll be sorted for 26. Ipap was let go as we wernt going to offer him a new spot and it freed up a top 30 spot, he also wasn't performing to the price tag for various reasons. Bateman was shown the door because of issues around him and the coach. It's better to let them both go now even being short in 25, then fixing the issue in 26 you lose one season.
If we keep particularly Bateman on cause ipap was going anyway, what damage could Batemans attitude cause in the sheds and in regard to influencing the younger guys in our squad, you could damage multiple seasons. Like yanking a tooth, once it gets pulled in a few days the toothach is gone. Or keep it and have less pain with the tooth but the pain never disappears.
I hear you , but u are not seeing the POINT, if we don’t make the 8 or go very close I can guarantee we can kiss good bye to Galvin then the next year Laui my ask to leave per his contract . There’s no point have a good backline for the 1st time in ages IF ur pack is crap , we are 2-3 shirt in the backrow , this will be our downfall
 
I hear you , but u are not seeing the POINT, if we don’t make the 8 or go very close I can guarantee we can kiss good bye to Galvin then the next year Laui my ask to leave per his contract . There’s no point have a good backline for the 1st time in ages IF ur pack is crap , we are 2-3 shirt in the backrow , this will be our downfall
I think we are a stronger pack then last year , looks like we have guys that have plenty to prove , last year we had blokes going through the motions whinging and whining and those who were looking for a contract elsewhere
 
His defence was 1st class , his line breaking was terrible, but with our new backline I would have loved to see how he would have gone

we not talking about Bateman , we are about papa , but on ur last point u would rather have crap kids than a bloke like Bateman who didn’t miss many tackles , attack was terrible, this why we have 3 wooden spoons we let player after player walk out the door but never replace them
I responded to your post which named Paps and also Bateman. I'd rather Seyfarth and or Bird than Bateman with kids as depth. Bloke would just destroy any chance of building a positive culture and environment which could take seasons to recover from if he poisons the dressing room.
 
Out of all WTs recent signings, Bird is the one that concerns me most, much like Olam the previous season I'm worried that he's a bit of a croc.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he carves it up, but I'm not so confident.
We don't need him to be anymore than he was for the dragons last year. Just needs to be a consistent senior player that can help us sure up one side of the field, as long as he doesn't get injured he will play to his value.
 
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