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They should never have let Ben Gardiner go did wonders in reserve grade another dumb decision the club made.
Let Webster go to. Not that I think he’ll be the next Bennett, but he’s done ok.
I have said at great length, years ago and again after we let those go, why don’t we have a development program for NRL coaches? Ben Gardiner and Webster would have been good candidates. Problem for us is we need to start out with a good head coach or a GM of football that has the nouse and the experience.
 
So we talking on here that if Benji doesn't make top 10 he gets sacked?

What happens if we come 11th/12th and are only 1-2 wins out of the 8. Sack him then? Even if it's clear we are improving each year?

And on the flip side, what if we do make the 8, we can't go into 2026 with a coach off contract, will be too much media noise.

So if we do make the 8, how many years do you extend Benji for?
 
So we talking on here that if Benji doesn't make top 10 he gets sacked?

What happens if we come 11th/12th and are only 1-2 wins out of the 8. Sack him then? Even if it's clear we are improving each year?

And on the flip side, what if we do make the 8, we can't go into 2026 with a coach off contract, will be too much media noise.

So if we do make the 8, how many years do you extend Benji for?
What great points!!
 
So we talking on here that if Benji doesn't make top 10 he gets sacked?

What happens if we come 11th/12th and are only 1-2 wins out of the 8. Sack him then? Even if it's clear we are improving each year?

And on the flip side, what if we do make the 8, we can't go into 2026 with a coach off contract, will be too much media noise.

So if we do make the 8, how many years do you extend Benji for?
I don’t think it will be as grey as that if that’s where we end up on the ladder, We’ll have a good feel either way whether he can cut it or not.
 
IMO if Benji ain’t making semis it will completely depend on who else is available to replace him. He might come 9-10 if there’s no one better then he maintains his contract.
 
That is both Melbourne and Penriths main thing .

And Defence is built on Fitness.
I agree but also attitude is important and that speaks to the way it is coached.

In my opinion, while the systems etc are important, the top teams also have the defensive mindset that gives them the resilience to defend when the chips are down. Teams like Penrith and Storm actually put doubts in the mind of their opponents attacking capabilities, leading to desperation and mistakes. This is where they pounce.

We need to be able to do similar.
 
In recent years our defence has been terrible. The two most contributing factors, was lack of line speed and discipline.

Our line speed was nearly nonexistent compared to Melbourne Penrith and the Dogs. Those teams raced up together in a line and competed in every play.

Our discipline was terrible because we had to find ways to slow the other sides down and stop their momentum, that led to six again and penalties .

Iam confident this season things will improve with the introduction of a few guys from good systems. Although it may take a few weeks to gell
 
Let Webster go to. Not that I think he’ll be the next Bennett, but he’s done ok.
I have said at great length, years ago and again after we let those go, why don’t we have a development program for NRL coaches? Ben Gardiner and Webster would have been good candidates. Problem for us is we need to start out with a good head coach or a GM of football that has the nouse and the experience.
Gardiner was the bigger loss for me B with Sheens experience he must have seen the potential in him, it almost seems like he let him go so that it wouldn't interfere with the progression of Benji to head coach the fairytale of the succession for Benji had a lot in euphoria, while that was happening Gardiner was let go. I hope Benji succeeds but Sheens get the old boys back together thinking could have deprived us of a better coach.
 
I agree but also attitude is important and that speaks to the way it is coached.

In my opinion, while the systems etc are important, the top teams also have the defensive mindset that gives them the resilience to defend when the chips are down. Teams like Penrith and Storm actually put doubts in the mind of their opponents attacking capabilities, leading to desperation and mistakes. This is where they pounce.

We need to be able to do similar.
Your right B if you are prepared to move up quickly in a straight chain that frustrates the opposition, but team fitness has to be good enough to do it the whole match, strong voices on both sides of the field pushing the guys a must as well and don't forget if the line is broken the amount of defenders getting back to cover needs to be high again related to team fitness.
 
Your right B if you are prepared to move up quickly in a straight chain that frustrates the opposition, but team fitness has to be good enough to do it the whole match, strong voices on both sides of the field pushing the guys a must as well and don't forget if the line is broken the amount of defenders getting back to cover needs to be high again related to team fitness.
Remember scrambling well with Cleary. I'd give my left nut to be able to defend that well this season.
 
Remember scrambling well with Cleary. I'd give my left nut to be able to defend that well this season.
Yeah I do mate he had nowhere near as good a roster as we do now just proves if the team has the right mind set in defense it can be done look how good we all felt when this was happening what gets me is why did they give away the defensive strategies when it clearly worked.
 
I remember listening to Sterlo on radio several years back he said something along the lines of:
"the most successful premiership campaigns are based on a strong unwavering defense."
Never forget the game against Brisbane in the 05 finals series, they made a Ton of offloads and even more line breaks but our scramble won us that game. Pretty sure it was Heinghington who scrambled and tackled his backside off.
 
In recent years our defence has been terrible. The two most contributing factors, was lack of line speed and discipline.

Our line speed was nearly nonexistent compared to Melbourne Penrith and the Dogs. Those teams raced up together in a line and competed in every play.

Our discipline was terrible because we had to find ways to slow the other sides down and stop their momentum, that led to six again and penalties .

Iam confident this season things will improve with the introduction of a few guys from good systems. Although it may take a few weeks to gell
Spot on... And it's why I constantly bang on about limiting opposition post contact metres.... But the line speed has to be top notch to achieve this.
Imo these two factors are parts A & B of any major improvement
 
Gardiner was a big loss, only led us for one game and had us playing well. The one I wish we kept who I think would have got the guys towing the line is Payton.
Again LT there were voices at the time wanting to throw Payton in at the deep end similar traits to Gardiner had reserve grade playing well needs to be rewarded not let them feel like they need to move to another club to progress.
 
Yeah I do mate he had nowhere near as good a roster as we do now just proves if the team has the right mind set in defense it can be done look how good we all felt when this was happening what gets me is why did they give away the defensive strategies when it clearly worked.
Because it's not sustainable.... It's hectic panicky desperation style defending you usually see at the end of very close games... It's very taxing physically and I wasn't surprised we fell away a bit from about round seven that year
We were still in games despite a couple of floggings... But the intensity of those first six or seven weeks was gone.
Must've been a hell of an off season that year
 
Because it's not sustainable.... It's hectic panicky desperation style defending you usually see at the end of very close games... It's very taxing physically and I wasn't surprised we fell away a bit from about round seven that year
We were still in games despite a couple of floggings... But the intensity of those first six or seven weeks was gone.
Must've been a hell of an off season that year
Probably because the squad was nowhere near as good as recent riff/storm roster.
 
If we don't gel as a team in the trials, Benji's future will be almost sealed. Stated before the first 6 games this year will determine if Benji last the season.
Sammy B and Matt K name are being mentioned as possible replacements.
Between you and I, I hope the trials don’t go to well. Trial form does not necessarily indicate team form. And you are correct t about the first 6 games. And if I can add even. More so the last 6 games. I will give Benji 2025 to show what he can do with the team. We now have a team that can be competitive consistently not just 1 or 2 games a season. Anything below 9th is a failure and he maybe shown the door. And based on were we are now and what’s coming top 4 2026!!!
 

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