Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BlackWhiteGold]

Good to see Turuva, Olam & Luai (no leg strapping) in today's club video on socials in running drills. Bula features prominently looking fast. Mason looks like he's bulked up even more this season. Galvin has shaved off his goatie thankfully lol

 

[Vicious]

Want to have a look at Sukkar this season before we put him through the shredder.

Exactly right RHS, too many of our supporter base write off our young emerging players before a game has been played.
Yes we have previous seasons to form an opinion, but young emerging players have been known to improve in leaps and bounds from one season to the next.
When talking about Seyfarth, he was a rep player throughout his late teens, it took him a while to toughen up, grow into his body and become the player he’s always promised to be. He has made significant improvements over the past 2 seasons and looks ready to finally fulfill his potential.
I have no doubt about Seyfarth’s ability, but it would have been nice to have at least one more established NRL standard edge back rower to apply some pressure to his NRL starting position to keep him on his toes.
Reuben Porter now in his late 20’s has shown some good signs from an attacking point of view, his defence is of great concern and hard to see it improving at his age.
Sukkar on the other hand is still virtually a baby in rugby league terms at 20 years of age. He’s a big unit with decent mobility for a man of his size. His attack looks close to being NRL ready, but like Porter his defence is a major concern. Being so young this can be worked on and hopefully has improved significantly with a strong off season.
Tumeth was also a regular and successful rep player throughout his late teens and similar to Seyfarth it looks to have taken time for him to adjust his game to playing against bigger and stronger men. He is the most aggressive and most solid defensively of all on this list, however it’s his lack of attack and lack of attacking involvement that has been letting him down over the past 2 seasons. Albeit a year older than Sukkar, it’s also not impossible that he has recognised this and made the necessary improvements to his attacking game to make him a much more complete player in 2025.
Time will tell, but it’s a bit harsh for these young local products to be written off too early, let their actions in season 2025 determine their destiny.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Exactly right RHS, too many of our supporter base write off our young emerging players before a game has been played.
Yes we have previous seasons to form an opinion, but young emerging players have been known to improve in leaps and bounds from one season to the next.
When talking about Seyfarth, he was a rep player throughout his late teens, it took him a while to toughen up, grow into his body and become the player he’s always promised to be. He has made significant improvements over the past 2 seasons and looks ready to finally fulfill his potential.
I have no doubt about Seyfarth’s ability, but it would have been nice to have at least one more established NRL standard edge back rower to apply some pressure to his NRL starting position to keep him on his toes.
Reuben Porter now in his late 20’s has shown some good signs from an attacking point of view, his defence is of great concern and hard to see it improving at his age.
Sukkar on the other hand is still virtually a baby in rugby league terms at 20 years of age. He’s a big unit with decent mobility for a man of his size. His attack looks close to being NRL ready, but like Porter his defence is a major concern. Being so young this can be worked on and hopefully has improved significantly with a strong off season.
Tumeth was also a regular and successful rep player throughout his late teens and similar to Seyfarth it looks to have taken time for him to adjust his game to playing against bigger and stronger men. He is the most aggressive and most solid defensively of all on this list, however it’s his lack of attack and lack of attacking involvement that has been letting him down over the past 2 seasons. Albeit a year older than Sukkar, it’s also not impossible that he has recognised this and made the necessary improvements to his attacking game to make him a much more complete player in 2025.
Time will tell, but it’s a bit harsh for these young local products to be written off too early, let their actions in season 2025 determine their destiny.

Good summary of each @Vicious I'm of a very similar opinion to you on these guys' strengths & weaknesses.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Good to see Turuva, Olam & Luai (no leg strapping) in today's club video on socials in running drills. Bula features prominently looking fast. Mason looks like he's bulked up even more this season. Galvin has shaved off his goatie thankfully lol

Turuva running already didn't he have an appendectomy or is the footage beforehand.

 

[ancient_magpie]

Exactly right RHS, too many of our supporter base write off our young emerging players before a game has been played.
Yes we have previous seasons to form an opinion, but young emerging players have been known to improve in leaps and bounds from one season to the next.
When talking about Seyfarth, he was a rep player throughout his late teens, it took him a while to toughen up, grow into his body and become the player he’s always promised to be. He has made significant improvements over the past 2 seasons and looks ready to finally fulfill his potential.
I have no doubt about Seyfarth’s ability, but it would have been nice to have at least one more established NRL standard edge back rower to apply some pressure to his NRL starting position to keep him on his toes.
Reuben Porter now in his late 20’s has shown some good signs from an attacking point of view, his defence is of great concern and hard to see it improving at his age.
Sukkar on the other hand is still virtually a baby in rugby league terms at 20 years of age. He’s a big unit with decent mobility for a man of his size. His attack looks close to being NRL ready, but like Porter his defence is a major concern. Being so young this can be worked on and hopefully has improved significantly with a strong off season.
Tumeth was also a regular and successful rep player throughout his late teens and similar to Seyfarth it looks to have taken time for him to adjust his game to playing against bigger and stronger men. He is the most aggressive and most solid defensively of all on this list, however it’s his lack of attack and lack of attacking involvement that has been letting him down over the past 2 seasons. Albeit a year older than Sukkar, it’s also not impossible that he has recognised this and made the necessary improvements to his attacking game to make him a much more complete player in 2025.
Time will tell, but it’s a bit harsh for these young local products to be written off too early, let their actions in season 2025 determine their destiny.

Love you common sense vicious as John laws used to say its not very common

 

[bptiger 0]

Yes, but that doesn’t mean you have to make a play for every player that comes onto the market.

We haven’t made a play for anyone of late , the question I asked would he be a good buy , please read the post before going of

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We haven’t made a play for anyone of late , the question I asked would he be a good buy , please read the post before going of

I do believe I answered the question. We need need edge players, not middles.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Turuva running already didn't he have an appendectomy or is the footage beforehand.

It'd be from this morning or possibly yesterday at earliest.

 

[Canadian Club]

Exactly right RHS, too many of our supporter base write off our young emerging players before a game has been played.
Yes we have previous seasons to form an opinion, but young emerging players have been known to improve in leaps and bounds from one season to the next.
When talking about Seyfarth, he was a rep player throughout his late teens, it took him a while to toughen up, grow into his body and become the player he’s always promised to be. He has made significant improvements over the past 2 seasons and looks ready to finally fulfill his potential.
I have no doubt about Seyfarth’s ability, but it would have been nice to have at least one more established NRL standard edge back rower to apply some pressure to his NRL starting position to keep him on his toes.
Reuben Porter now in his late 20’s has shown some good signs from an attacking point of view, his defence is of great concern and hard to see it improving at his age.
Sukkar on the other hand is still virtually a baby in rugby league terms at 20 years of age. He’s a big unit with decent mobility for a man of his size. His attack looks close to being NRL ready, but like Porter his defence is a major concern. Being so young this can be worked on and hopefully has improved significantly with a strong off season.
Tumeth was also a regular and successful rep player throughout his late teens and similar to Seyfarth it looks to have taken time for him to adjust his game to playing against bigger and stronger men. He is the most aggressive and most solid defensively of all on this list, however it’s his lack of attack and lack of attacking involvement that has been letting him down over the past 2 seasons. Albeit a year older than Sukkar, it’s also not impossible that he has recognised this and made the necessary improvements to his attacking game to make him a much more complete player in 2025.
Time will tell, but it’s a bit harsh for these young local products to be written off too early, let their actions in season 2025 determine their destiny.

Agree with you on supporters writing off young players too soon. What I find concerning is that young players with less than 20 games get bashed for a bad game or two, yet guys like Seyfarth who have had 6 seasons and still can't get it together are praised despite inconsistent and terrible displays.

I completely disagree that Seyfarth has made significant improvements, he has gone backwards in terms of discipline and defense. Porter is much stronger defensively on the edge, but I wouldn't exactly call him FG quality. Realistically none of our backrowers (except Samuela) are good enough to be starting in the NRL squad, but unfortunately we don't have an option but to play one of Seyfarth, Porter or Sukkar there. Porter should be a back up and Seyfarth should only ever be used as a middle off the bench. Unfortunately we're hamstrung for options and there really isn't a good option for right side backrower.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

Exactly right RHS, too many of our supporter base write off our young emerging players before a game has been played.
Yes we have previous seasons to form an opinion, but young emerging players have been known to improve in leaps and bounds from one season to the next.
When talking about Seyfarth, he was a rep player throughout his late teens, it took him a while to toughen up, grow into his body and become the player he’s always promised to be. He has made significant improvements over the past 2 seasons and looks ready to finally fulfill his potential.
I have no doubt about Seyfarth’s ability, but it would have been nice to have at least one more established NRL standard edge back rower to apply some pressure to his NRL starting position to keep him on his toes.
Reuben Porter now in his late 20’s has shown some good signs from an attacking point of view, his defence is of great concern and hard to see it improving at his age.
Sukkar on the other hand is still virtually a baby in rugby league terms at 20 years of age. He’s a big unit with decent mobility for a man of his size. His attack looks close to being NRL ready, but like Porter his defence is a major concern. Being so young this can be worked on and hopefully has improved significantly with a strong off season.
Tumeth was also a regular and successful rep player throughout his late teens and similar to Seyfarth it looks to have taken time for him to adjust his game to playing against bigger and stronger men. He is the most aggressive and most solid defensively of all on this list, however it’s his lack of attack and lack of attacking involvement that has been letting him down over the past 2 seasons. Albeit a year older than Sukkar, it’s also not impossible that he has recognised this and made the necessary improvements to his attacking game to make him a much more complete player in 2025.
Time will tell, but it’s a bit harsh for these young local products to be written off too early, let their actions in season 2025 determine their destiny.

The problem is we are handing these kids valuable top 30 spots way too early... at least 5-6 players in our current top 30 shouldn't be there.

 

[Spartan117]

That’s not what I read , how about waiting to the story comes out before jumping down his throat

I heard that he did from a dragons employee, didn't even tell his brother.

 

[PabloX]

Exactly right RHS, too many of our supporter base write off our young emerging players before a game has been played.
Yes we have previous seasons to form an opinion, but young emerging players have been known to improve in leaps and bounds from one season to the next.
When talking about Seyfarth, he was a rep player throughout his late teens, it took him a while to toughen up, grow into his body and become the player he’s always promised to be. He has made significant improvements over the past 2 seasons and looks ready to finally fulfill his potential.
I have no doubt about Seyfarth’s ability, but it would have been nice to have at least one more established NRL standard edge back rower to apply some pressure to his NRL starting position to keep him on his toes.
Reuben Porter now in his late 20’s has shown some good signs from an attacking point of view, his defence is of great concern and hard to see it improving at his age.
Sukkar on the other hand is still virtually a baby in rugby league terms at 20 years of age. He’s a big unit with decent mobility for a man of his size. His attack looks close to being NRL ready, but like Porter his defence is a major concern. Being so young this can be worked on and hopefully has improved significantly with a strong off season.
Tumeth was also a regular and successful rep player throughout his late teens and similar to Seyfarth it looks to have taken time for him to adjust his game to playing against bigger and stronger men. He is the most aggressive and most solid defensively of all on this list, however it’s his lack of attack and lack of attacking involvement that has been letting him down over the past 2 seasons. Albeit a year older than Sukkar, it’s also not impossible that he has recognised this and made the necessary improvements to his attacking game to make him a much more complete player in 2025.
Time will tell, but it’s a bit harsh for these young local products to be written off too early, let their actions in season 2025 determine their destiny.

It sounds to me that our development of players is the real issue

 

[innsaneink]

He dogged his Team mates whilst still under contract.

Absolute NO.

Thought there was some mental health issues that weren't really clarified.
Wether it's legit or an excuse to get out who knows...
We don't need players with baggage but to say he's dogged it without knowing exactly what the go is ain't real good

 

[Vicious]

It sounds to me that our development of players is the real issue

I’d have to agree, the percentage rate of our young players earmarked for NRL from a young age and making that transition has not beenvery good over the past few years, so it’s either bad talent identification or bad development.

 

[batboy]

The problem is we are handing these kids valuable top 30 spots way too early... at least 5-6 players in our current top 30 shouldn't be there.

😂😂😂 Dreamers....

For every young bloke they claim is written off early,
There's a dozen 16 year olds they've got pencilled into the starting NRL 17 next year.

90% of their teenage poster boys amount to not much of anything,
But that's OK - They've got the memory of a goldfish and
a new and improved bunch coming through next year.

 

[Kaito]

Thought there was some mental health issues that weren't really clarified.
Wether it's legit or an excuse to get out who knows...
We don't need players with baggage but to say he's dogged it without knowing exactly what the go is ain't real good

New manager ink, what the hell else...
They got a better return with Emre Guler. Francis looks soft and clubless smh

 

[batboy]

I’d have to agree, the percentage rate of our young players earmarked for NRL from a young age and making that transition has not beenvery good over the past few years, so it’s either bad talent identification or bad development.

Or just the reality / stats
- Stats that have existed since back before the NYC was even a thing.

Go back and look through old big leagues at all the junior rep sides,
Lucky to see a handful of recognisable names in each game...
And even then, You don't see teams full of 100+ gamers.

A small percentage of Junior rep stars make the NRL,
And a small percentage of them go on to any great heights.
Anyone with any clue will tell you it's the same in all junior sport.

This is NRL football, It's not for everyone....

 

[clontarfkid]

Love you common sense vicious as John laws used to say its not very common

My favorite shock Jock.. be kind to each other and enjoy the remains of the day

 

[innsaneink]

New manager ink, what the hell else...
They got a better return with Emre Guler. Francis looks soft and clubless smh

Yeah?
Oh well.the thought did cross my mind.at the time the story came out if he'd be any good for us... We.got enough probs without adding to them

 

[innsaneink]

Or just the reality / stats
- Stats that have existed since back before the NYC was even a thing.

Go back and look through old big leagues at all the junior rep sides,
Lucky to see a handful of recognisable names in each game...
And even then, You don't see teams full of 100+ gamers.

A small percentage of Junior rep stars make the NRL,
And a small percentage of them go on to any great heights.
Anyone with any clue will tell you it's the same in all junior sport.

This is NRL football, It's not for everyone....

Natural attrition...
I remember Wests had a gun Flegg team early with the like of Hoffman Fulton Gibbs maybe mescia Georgallis?
And Balmain.had a great Ball. Teamaround.the same time but they're few and far between

Anyone wanna try dig up these teams?