Buttface
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Who was the Clayton’s centre we had that we loan to the storm and won 3 GF’s with 3 diff clubs?
He was better than Diohbie.
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He was better than Diohbie.
I think the reason why people don't think we should sign Molo or Lodge - and the reason why the club has shown no interest in either of them - is that we already have enough cap room tied up in middles and it's not really a position of need. I mean, they could blow up the strategy just in order to get more dickheads in the building but I'm not sure how much it would help.
Buttface
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So poor old Bud getting relegated but the new Pom.
Kurt Falls to Tigers and Watmough’s kid joins the Tigers.
I’ve played poker against Choc Watmough and he was terrible. Well he was good for me, but terrible at poker.
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Kurt Falls to Tigers and Watmough’s kid joins the Tigers.
I’ve played poker against Choc Watmough and he was terrible. Well he was good for me, but terrible at poker.
Bennett toying with round one selection stunner
'Little-known' player in line for first crack at halfback
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GNR4LIFE
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Sometimes I think about Twal being contracted till the end of 2027 and think there’s no way he sees that out. Then I wonder how many clubs he would have willing to take the rest of his contract. Then I realise he’s here till the end of 27.
Just because you think that they would be good for the club doesn't make it so.
innsaneink
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anyone who says seyfarths lateral defensive positioning doesn’t need improvement isn’t telling the truth .
But his desire for contact and using his shoulders is also really good .
A lot of edge players both back rower and centres , you just don’t see that . Even guys like Fifita can be caught arm grabbing a lot .
I think the issue with him is 2 fold ; he’s an edge forward who was really tall so “they” ( not going to mention names as it will piss off people) decided he was a middle . He never ever really developed into that , bevause imo it was a mistake to move him there in the first place . When you move someone in , thier training program changes , thier film changes , everything changes to suit the brutality of the never ending collision in the middle . Edge forwards are allowed to be more athletic .
I saw enough on the edges at the back end of last year to give him a crack , basically due to no better options in the club .
The ill discipline argument , whilst valid , was also sorted I felt after the Souths game , and he really reined in his aggressiveness as the season came to a close . I also feel he was being singled out , and smart chirpy spine players on opposition teams , were constantly fishing with refs and manipulating , as well as refereeing confirmation bias .
Eg. When he got 10 in the bin for basically nothing , because the perception was “it’s seyfarth he must have done something” . He’s not the first player to suffer from this , and won’t be the last , but yea if he’s cuts the shit out of his game , it will go a long way , because it actually tends to go the other way when he’s perceived to be “a bad guy come good” . Lattrell gets that treatment even though he never stopped being a grub, but that’s the narrative .
I think a different training program , with more focus of lateral agility , and explosion laterally , as well as positioning etc. should help him along .
But people need to also remember , as much as I think Fainu is destined for an AUS jersey , he fell off tackles at a rate far higher than seyfarth.
So I think our edge positioning needs to be worked on . And really trust on the edges to work together , so when a Damien cook ( did you know he was a beach sprinting champ ? lol) burns you on the outside at 4 in , youre not exposed as you’re half has jammed to wrap that ball , and at the very least slowed him down for the cover to collapse the edge .
But at the end of the day as well , you’re trying to defend against elite footballers . Defence is always a losing battle . Because the perfect game is 0 and that’s just not really possible week in and out . As close to perfection say the panthers have been these last 5 years . But that’s the exception not the rule .
Guys are going to miss tackles , they’re going to make mistakes . But the issue is the net positive by the end of the game should hopefully be in your favour .
Too often that’s not been the case for our club . And that’s what we need to shift . Winning the run of the green more often than not . You get that , and you don’t need to defend as much as we do in the first place .
But his desire for contact and using his shoulders is also really good .
A lot of edge players both back rower and centres , you just don’t see that . Even guys like Fifita can be caught arm grabbing a lot .
I think the issue with him is 2 fold ; he’s an edge forward who was really tall so “they” ( not going to mention names as it will piss off people) decided he was a middle . He never ever really developed into that , bevause imo it was a mistake to move him there in the first place . When you move someone in , thier training program changes , thier film changes , everything changes to suit the brutality of the never ending collision in the middle . Edge forwards are allowed to be more athletic .
I saw enough on the edges at the back end of last year to give him a crack , basically due to no better options in the club .
The ill discipline argument , whilst valid , was also sorted I felt after the Souths game , and he really reined in his aggressiveness as the season came to a close . I also feel he was being singled out , and smart chirpy spine players on opposition teams , were constantly fishing with refs and manipulating , as well as refereeing confirmation bias .
Eg. When he got 10 in the bin for basically nothing , because the perception was “it’s seyfarth he must have done something” . He’s not the first player to suffer from this , and won’t be the last , but yea if he’s cuts the shit out of his game , it will go a long way , because it actually tends to go the other way when he’s perceived to be “a bad guy come good” . Lattrell gets that treatment even though he never stopped being a grub, but that’s the narrative .
I think a different training program , with more focus of lateral agility , and explosion laterally , as well as positioning etc. should help him along .
But people need to also remember , as much as I think Fainu is destined for an AUS jersey , he fell off tackles at a rate far higher than seyfarth.
So I think our edge positioning needs to be worked on . And really trust on the edges to work together , so when a Damien cook ( did you know he was a beach sprinting champ ? lol) burns you on the outside at 4 in , youre not exposed as you’re half has jammed to wrap that ball , and at the very least slowed him down for the cover to collapse the edge .
But at the end of the day as well , you’re trying to defend against elite footballers . Defence is always a losing battle . Because the perfect game is 0 and that’s just not really possible week in and out . As close to perfection say the panthers have been these last 5 years . But that’s the exception not the rule .
Guys are going to miss tackles , they’re going to make mistakes . But the issue is the net positive by the end of the game should hopefully be in your favour .
Too often that’s not been the case for our club . And that’s what we need to shift . Winning the run of the green more often than not . You get that , and you don’t need to defend as much as we do in the first place .
Tucker
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Come on man, this is disingenuous crap.
Granted he is no world beating backrower, but he’s one of the very few who looks to be trying and actually give a damn.
That attitude can be worked with.
TurnStyle
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Momirovski?
magpies forever
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Yes, it was Momo and we treated him very badly.
Pretty sure he Won 1 GF with Penrith
(Dunno where 3 comes from)
Now playing 2nd division in Europe.
AdelaideTiger
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q
Won one with the chooks too
Tiger-ferret
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would love to know more detail on this?
Tucker
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- He was at the Roosters in 2018 when they won the comp
- He then had a year off success and played for us
- Next it was on to Storm for their premiership in 2020
- Then it was to Penrith for their 2021 win.
Rock Hopper Steve
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Technically yes but not getting on the field a hollow victory.
Rock Hopper Steve
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If we didn't want to land Olam to plug some holes in our backline he would probably be still here if we let him play at 2RF, don't think he was keen playing at prop.
Didn't play in the Games though - Probably didn't get a ring...
Being part of the Squad isn't winning a GF.
That's like saying Ben Reynolds is a 2005 Premiership Winning Halfback.
He might have been here last year, Not this.
Was indicated to him he wasn't wanted so he signed with the Storm.
Tucker
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No its not. it takes the whole roster to put a club in the frame to secure a premiership.
Obviously its great to get the ring and the recognition, however if you were there busting your arse all year at training and in the rare appearances you got, you did your job and are a part of it.
weststigers
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I think you need to go back and watch Twal play.
He's not flashy, doesn't make clean breaks or really offload, but he definitely doesn't get dominated in tackles. In defence, he makes his tackles and looks strong. As a prop, that's his job and he does it adequately.
Twal has it over Seyfarth for strength and size.
Seyfarth brings energy and effort, but has been lacking physically for a few seasons. I saw the tide shift a bit last season where he wasn't getting dominated as much as in the past, but he needs to work on his strength. As a backrower, we need more.
Seyfarth is slowly improving, but he's 27 now, so needs to have a decent year to justify the spot over a younger and more dynamic player.
Both players are squad players, and through lack of depth, they get more game time with us than they would at other clubs. They play to their contract value I would say.
On the balance, if I had to choose who to replace first it would be Seyfarth because we need more quality in his position. Prop is looking decent for now.
