LIVE GAME Round 4 v Warriors

[Fish88]

As said before we need some edge forward and centre depth, but if we play like that for the whole year we won’t be near the bottom of the table and that’s one hell of an improvement on 3 spoons

 

[innsaneink]

Can someone explain why CNK was allowed to stay on the field, yet Turuva (no penalty) had to leave with HIA. The disruption before and during the game to our lineup, I thought the boys did well to hang in there

Apparently our club doctor decided turuva had to come off

 

[boonboon]

Watched it back this morning as am off today - Biggest moment in the match is the injury to Sam Fainu.

He is down injured - Warriors score a try in his space, also we have just changed our 3 first half interchanges and then have to make 2 more with Turuva and Sam going off so all of a sudden we have only 3 interchanges left for last 47 minutes (effectively 2 as you need to save 1) , 1 forward on the bench and it was always going to tell near the end.

Overall a great effort with circumstances of Douehi injury at last minute and Sam in game made it so hard for us to win esp in the conditions.

 

[cktiger]

lol need a tissue?
They won fair and square after our captain took one of their players out with a blatant attack to the head.

That was one incident. The clown refereeing torched us the entire game.
Not fussed if you consider it whinging or not... it's a fact.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

A dissapointing result but a good game from two fairly evenly matched teams in poor conditions. All of the tries, from both teams, were soft and preventable.

I personally don't believe that Seyfarth or Latu F penalties were warranted; however, can see how the rules were interpreted differently at the time. I think some of the refereeing decisions lacked consistency, but this affected both teams, so attributing the result to poor officiating is unwarranted. I also thought live that the Warrior slowed the ruck without being penalised for it; however, the PTB speed overall favoured us - so potentially some bias from me at the time. Either way the game was decided by the football gods - not the ref.

You can argue either way as to Faataape's decison to kick the ball as opposed to dive on it towards the end of the game. Had the kick gone in field and resulted in points we would all be lauding him as a genius. Overall I thought he had a sound game.

We were a bounce of the ball short in this one; 1m short on a 40/20, ball dropped over the line, outside shoulder obstruction and rule interpretations. - any of them go the other way and it would be the Warriors wondering how that one got away.

It will be these close losses that hurt us - but if we can build from it we will benefit. Time to review the tape, identify the lessons and learn from them/correct the deficiencies, then shift our focus to preparing ourselves for Brisbane away. This will be a good test of our resolve.

Good voice of reason @Jolls I agree with your summation. IMO Bula's attempts for two of their tries were very poor! Conditions were greasy yes & he didn't need to wrap them up completely, just halt their progress to make it easier for the cover to come in. I hope Hodgson really works on this part of his game.

 

[CarolinaTiger]

Just watched the replay.

My thoughts:

• Doueihi was a big miss imo. So far this season he has been fantastic and I think we really missed him out there, especially the latter stages of the game.
• Shit ref overall yes and dubious penalty to essentially give them the win. However, not the ref's fault we had bonehead errors close to their end and on one of their later tries, horrific efforts at tackling. Most fundamental thing you can learn in Rugby is the right angles to take when tackling somebody and we did a piss poor job of that
• Loved the energy of the crowd. Hopefully that keeps up the whole season
• Not one for moral victories but will say that this Tigers team seems to be way more on the right path to success than our teams in the past couple of seasons have
• Will we finish top 8? Hard ask due to our lack of depth. However, will end get the spoon again? I do think we more than enough talent to avoid that

Take a deep breath and enjoy the ride haha,

On to Brisbane.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Luai out against the Broncos with a week suspension. Looks like two teenage halves against two mid-30s halves.

NRL Judiciary Report: Brown, Vailea, Bateman banned; Kikau cleared

Eels playmaker Dylan Brown has been banned for one game after making contact with referee Gerard Sutton in Monday's 30-12 loss to the Bulldogs while Viliame Kikau was found not guilty of Dangerous Contact at the judiciary on Tuesday night.

www.nrl.com

 

[Needaname]

So it comes back to recruitment right. At this rate we should have the correct roster by about 2027 ??

Yeah pretty spot on there

 

[Needaname]

The Faataape decision was a high risk, high reward play. My personal belief is that he should have dived on the pill and taken the low risk option; however, he was the one out there and made the call.

Diving on the ball he may of even end up over the sideline. He needed to slow down and pick it up but even then it wouldn’t have helped us. Tough play in poor conditions.

 

[weststigers]

A dissapointing result but a good game from two fairly evenly matched teams in poor conditions. All of the tries, from both teams, were soft and preventable.

I personally don't believe that Seyfarth or Latu F penalties were warranted; however, can see how the rules were interpreted differently at the time. I think some of the refereeing decisions lacked consistency, but this affected both teams, so attributing the result to poor officiating is unwarranted. I also thought live that the Warrior slowed the ruck without being penalised for it; however, the PTB speed overall favoured us - so potentially some bias from me at the time. Either way the game was decided by the football gods - not the ref.

You can argue either way as to Faataape's decison to kick the ball as opposed to dive on it towards the end of the game. Had the kick gone in field and resulted in points we would all be lauding him as a genius. Overall I thought he had a sound game.

We were a bounce of the ball short in this one; 1m short on a 40/20, ball dropped over the line, outside shoulder obstruction and rule interpretations. - any of them go the other way and it would be the Warriors wondering how that one got away.

It will be these close losses that hurt us - but if we can build from it we will benefit. Time to review the tape, identify the lessons and learn from them/correct the deficiencies, then shift our focus to preparing ourselves for Brisbane away. This will be a good test of our resolve.

We were under immense pressure all game.

We had a short period where we wrestled it back and just as it looked like they were running out of steam, we give away a few relieving penalties and concede a length of the field try that could have been defended by either Bula or Bird.

It's a shame we conceded the final deciding penalty. I thought, particularly early, they tested the ref and could have had a player in the bin for repeated infringements, but he didn't blow any penalties or give warnings.

Ultimately, if Terrel May grounds that ball or if To'a doesn't obstruct the defender, we win that game comfortably and by maybe more than 12 as the Warriors may have had to play differently.

A lot has been made of Faataape kicking ahead, but the bigger one was Turuva not passing inside to an unmarked To'a. That would have won us the game.

All in all, we would have lost by plenty in previous years, but we hung in there all game and gave ourselves a shot. We will fall short on occasion, but if we play like that all season, we will win enough games to make the finals. Good to see we didn't roll over and good to see us actually scoring enough points to win a game of footy.

 

[Needaname]

6 agains are killing us.
Benji needs to look at our discipline in this area ASAP.
I’m not sure of the total but it probably ended up even both sides. The big difference is we are giving them away on tackle 5 unexpectedly where as the warriors were doing it on tackle 1 and 2 which doesn’t impact a defending team at all.
A tackle 5 six again gives the team a whole new set to attack. When the defence has been giving it their all for a whole set and commits that mistake on the last it gives the attack a complete reset.
Whereas when we were ended up with another half a set mid sit it does jack shit for us and just disrupts the attack giving more advantage to the defending side.

We need to learn to be strategically disciplined and undisciplined!

 

[das tigers]

I thought we were really good last night. They're a good team that looked
like they had us all night.Both had high completions but they just out muscled us.
We really are improving significantly just got to keep it up.

I'd love another 2 edges and a middle (like Erin clarke and Nuikora) and taylan May.
Have Skelton and Doubie back..... Love to see Naden have a purple patch too. Surely
he is due for one.

 

[TrueTiger]

If we look at yesterday from an unbiased opinion,you can see once the dramas of reshuffling the team,injuries and crap weather all happening at once,then we were in for a very hard slog..
The good thing about the game is our young players and older players all lifted and tried to win the best way they could,unfortunately,poor decisions,desperation and some bad defence on our part cost us the game,however hopefully Benji can get this mob to start to develop their own skills and combine them into a team game and keep the individual flare at bay..
We know they all have talent and ability,they just have to get on the same page and understand that the game is a team game and everyone has to help each other and play to the structures...this will eventually come,hopefully the sooner the better...

 

[Telltails]

6 agains are killing us.
Benji needs to look at our discipline in this area ASAP.
I’m not sure of the total but it probably ended up even both sides. The big difference is we are giving them away on tackle 5 unexpectedly where as the warriors were doing it on tackle 1 and 2 which doesn’t impact a defending team at all.
A tackle 5 six again gives the team a whole new set to attack. When the defence has been giving it their all for a whole set and commits that mistake on the last it gives the attack a complete reset.
Whereas when we were ended up with another half a set mid sit it does jack shit for us and just disrupts the attack giving more advantage to the defending side.

We need to learn to be strategically disciplined and undisciplined!

How can a coach control a discretionary penalty when if you watch the game you could possibly penalise both teams on numerous occasions for the same thing but the ref picks and chooses when and which team to penalise?

 

[innsaneink]

Just watched the replay.

My thoughts:

• Doueihi was a big miss imo. So far this season he has been fantastic and I think we really missed him out there, especially the latter stages of the game.
• Shit ref overall yes and dubious penalty to essentially give them the win. However, not the ref's fault we had bonehead errors close to their end and on one of their later tries, horrific efforts at tackling. Most fundamental thing you can learn in Rugby is the right angles to take when tackling somebody and we did a piss poor job of that
• Loved the energy of the crowd. Hopefully that keeps up the whole season
• Not one for moral victories but will say that this Tigers team seems to be way more on the right path to success than our teams in the past couple of seasons have
• Will we finish top 8? Hard ask due to our lack of depth. However, will end get the spoon again? I do think we more than enough talent to avoid that

Take a deep breath and enjoy the ride haha,

On to Brisbane.

The atmosphere at the ground at times was awesome......sounded like 19k...can only imagine what its like if we get our onfield act together = actually i rememeber what it was like...the game against NQ late in the year 20 seasons back where we guaranteed ourselves our maiden finals spot comes to mind as does tesltra bay 105 during the winning streak.
If we win or have a bloody dig which is whatnwere doing the cowds will come back and.be pumping

 

[Needaname]

How can a coach control a discretionary penalty when if you watch the game you could possibly penalise both teams on numerous occasions for the same thing but the ref picks and chooses when and which team to penalise?

I did watch the game, I’ve watched all our games this year there is a clear intention from the players to hold longer and slow down the ruck. Everyone does it, it’s fine except we are doing it as the tackles in the set increase. That may or may not be a coaches decisions or could be the players doing but there is a pattern there that needs to be addressed.
Second to that. We were also given six agains when on the attack. The Warriors were strategically given the ref more chance to call them early in the set when they were committing their breakdowns.
Six agains for offsides is another one, and they comes down to once again team discipline.
So you think the ref targeted us. Ok.

 

[orange&black]

Credit where it’s due - Warriors played very well. They ran hard and tackled hard, made very few errors in tough conditions and won the middle for most of the game. They kicked deep and pinned us in our half very well and with the injuries and lack of troops, we struggled to win momentum, with them running over us in the last 10mins. Sure ref didn’t help but that’s not where we lost it.
We are still a smallish, lightweight team and always have a problem with teams that play the power game. They had so much momentum up the middle with quick ptbs and Egan bringing big, hard running forwards onto the ball. We were just hanging on at times. Not sure how we can address this issue with our current squad - definitely a couple of forwards short (big, mobile, aggressive types would be good).
Bula looked dangerous with the ball but his D was disappointing when they scored, especially since he had their guy lined up and should have done better.

 

[Chunk]

How can a coach control a discretionary penalty when if you watch the game you could possibly penalise both teams on numerous occasions for the same thing but the ref picks and chooses when and which team to penalise?

No, I think we lost the ruck too often because of their size and power, so we try and slow it down and get penalised. You have to earn it and the Warriors did a better job.

 

[Telltails]

I did watch the game, I’ve watched all our games this year there is a clear intention from the players to hold longer and slow down the ruck. Everyone does it, it’s fine except we are doing it as the tackles in the set increase. That may or may not be a coaches decisions or could be the players doing but there is a pattern there that needs to be addressed.
Second to that. We were also given six agains when on the attack. The Warriors were strategically given the ref more chance to call them early in the set when they were committing their breakdowns.
Six agains for offsides is another one, and they comes down to once again team discipline.
So you think the ref targeted us. Ok.

Every team is doing it hoping they get away with it because no one knows when the ref will decide to ping them. I never said the ref targeted us I said the coaches have no control over what the ref decides to do when deciding when to blow the whistle for 6 agains.

 

[Chunk]

We were under immense pressure all game.

Yeah I thought that, we are not strong enough in defence still, lose the ruck too often.

A lot has been made of Faataape kicking ahead, but the bigger one was Turuva not passing inside to an unmarked To'a. That would have won us the game.

It was nearly a simple draw and pass situation, passing might not be one of Turuva's stronger points.