Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

supercoach said:
The quickest way to fix these things and salary cap breaches is to punish the players as well as the clubs and the agents. At present the agent cops the punishment, if you included a lengthy ban on the player to, things would change. It’s to easy at present for the player to say, I leave all that stuff up to my agent. The players and in our current situation Galvin would know exactly what Moses is cooking up
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At the end of the day, the player has to take responsibility around his/her contract obligations, including their Agent’s actions and antics.
 
crazycat said:
Re Luai vs AD at 7...

It's so weird, isn't it.
If someone told me that Toa + AD would be our regular centers for 6 rounds and we would be doing "OK" I would have laughed at them.

Now it's place AD at halfback... Which is weird as we haven't seen much of him at 7 and I feel that position was his to grab if he wanted it.

Yet I feel it's the right call. Luai is more used to 6 and AD seems that kind of person who is headstrong enough to be 7. Plus Luai seems to be a master at making people look good at 7....

Prepared to give Benji and Luai the benefit of the doubt on this one. Although this should be a winable game. Parra will turn up and Parra will be tough. Moses will change this team from a bottom 4 contender to a top 8 contender till he gets injured again.
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No argument from me.
Wonder how much the Luai/ Api/ Turuva/ May positivity factor is in play here.
As someone just mentioned, a team would only be as good as it's top players. Great signings by management over the last few years.
 
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BalmainBoy67 said:
The sooner, the better....
The NRL really needs to act quickly, and FIX this blight on our game, and start to really hold managers and players accountable for their contractual obligations.
Moving forward, we should have nothing to do with Moses. IMO he should be made an example of, and a full investigation into Moses's actions. So far he seems like the Teflon Don, nothing is sticking to him....

www.foxsports.com.au

‘Blight on the game’: NRL set for player agent crackdown as Galvin saga rolls on

‘Blight on the game’: NRL set for player agent crackdown as Galvin saga rolls on
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I think the nrl has to do 2 or 3 things moving forward . For starters no club can sign a player before their 16th birthday . And that contract can only be a generic nrl contract that has no stipulation other than the guarantee the signing club will be given right of refusal on the next contract ; the rookie contract .
This should be a tiered 3 level contract based on performance coming through the grades ; so elite talent ; which qualifies as Aus schoolboy jerseys/ nz schoolboy jerseys . Coming through the grades you need to hit a certain criteria to achieve tier 1 . This should be no more than 250k for 3 years , with guaranteed development contract . Eg. Mason Fainu x2 , Luke Lualiii
Tier 2 should be , state rep players , players from tier 2 nations , and really the only tier that is flexible to negotiation ; it’s basically an nrl minimum contract , with an option of the club making the player a development player . This will be the most common “elite contract” . Eg. Someone like Sukkar, Kit Lulaliii . You can also sign players like Faatape to this contract late bloomers .
Tier 3 , is basically the development contract . So just about every kid from SG ball through flegg to KOE. It is the most common contract , with a small bit of leverage of say 10-20k between the top and lower end of the contracts .
You can upgrade the players from tier 3- tier - 1 , for the duration of their rookie contract . So at any point you could get a kid who just booms out of nowhere and jumps through the grades where they qualify for a tier 1 contract. Eg. A player didn’t play much junior reps , but kills it at sg ball level after they’ve signed their rookie contract , and get u19s rep honours .
There’s absolutely minimum room or need for a manager , as the criteria is set by the nrl , especially for the younger players , which means really most kids , even elite talent , don’t require a manager until they’re 21 years old .
Also the nrl needs to revert the system back to only being able to negotiate your next contract in the final 6 months of your existing contract . 1 year is just too long .
There’s absolutely no reason why 6 months isn’t along enough time period , considering everyone else out there who’s under contract has really 1-2 months between contracts to renegotiate/ change companies .
It will mean that the months of May and June will be taken up by contract talks , but those months are meh , and everyone is focused on origin anyway . Plus it’s before the June 30 deadline , where you could negotiate player swaps .
I think trades should also be granted . The draft is controversial ( I think it would fix most of the issues tbh) so that shouldn’t be brought in , but a trade window , where clubs should have to some form of capital for wrecking other teams , like the eels being behind a fair chunk of these “mid season player moves” , they should have to pay for it either with player comp , or a significant financial hit .
The eels have done this by the way like 10 times over the last 5-10 years . Theres the Moses and Matterson ones for us , but RCG , waga Blake , there’s heaps … anyways ..
yea I think what I said is the answer . These absolutely no reason a kid should need an agent until they’re 20 years old . The contracts should be fixed and alow for growth .
Also in this period if a kid does blow up , and any money they can make from their likeness should not be taken out of the salary and included .
 
Go_You_Good_Things said:
How about this theory on Galvan saying Benji can't help him reach his potential as a half . . . . .
It's possible that this line of bullshit was conceived last year by moses as an easy way out. Let's face it, it held more truth about it during the 23/24 seasons.
Moses would have thought everyone would agree, and him and Galvan would come out smelling like roses. And again . . . this would have been plausible in 24 for sure. No real arguments against it.
But like most narcissists, he didn't have a plan B, because his plan A was devised by a supremely intelligent and wily operator . . . and therefore it never needed a back up.
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I’m convinced it’s about Latu Fainu . His family is worried if he signs for 5 years here , by year 3 he’s wearing the lock jersey . The eels would have guaranteed him the 6 jersey . I’m convinced this is what they mean by “development “
 
Lestronge said:
I’m convinced it’s about Latu Fainu . His family is worried if he signs for 5 years here , by year 3 he’s wearing the lock jersey . The eels would have guaranteed him the 6 jersey . I’m convinced this is what they mean by “development “
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Maybe, but would we really be offering someone 1 million dollars per season to play 13 when we don’t even know if he has the toughness required to play 13 ?
 
Tucker said:
We’ll have to wait and see I suppose.
Why a player like him would leave a squad that’s clearly improving to go to one that is still descending towards rock bottom is puzzling.
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My guess is this was all arranged and planned [hidden signed contract etc.], possibly 6 months ago, to replace Brown [before Mitchel Moses had the foot injury, player exodus, retirement and an absolutely disastrous start to 2025].
A point of no return! Hence the coach BS for an early release.
But the backlash across the Media and his team "Mates" and WT fan base has been immense!
The Galvan family and manager have miscalculated Richo's red line in the sand starting now, and Benji's dropping him to KOE.
Imagine what most of his teammates must think of him now? Do I pass him the ball, hesitation, cut him out, play the other side of ruck. Not good for the NRL Tigers. We need to play as if he didn't exist.
Galvin needs to spend time in KOE to get his head together and show other clubs and other hyped up players to show respect. Well done WT!
 
liltiger said:
Whoever it is, is a complete scumbag. Like I said earlier none of it makes any sense imo purely because like any young man he loves and idolises his father and he's just doing what ever his father is telling him. One thing imo that needs to happen out of this asap is Wests Tigers need to uncouple from Isaac Moses and Cove Agency and join the other 3 clubs who won't deal with them, rub him and his company out completely.
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It’s all Issac Moses. He’s poisoned the well and I get the sense that Falvin is an impressionable kid who’s had too much smoke blown up his backside and his parents have bought into this as well.
 
Lestronge said:
I’m convinced it’s about Latu Fainu . His family is worried if he signs for 5 years here , by year 3 he’s wearing the lock jersey . The eels would have guaranteed him the 6 jersey . I’m convinced this is what they mean by “development “
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Highly likely. So 2 things from there . . . .
1- Your theory doubles down on him specifying " Benji isn't the coach to further his develpoment as a half "
2- Everyone is telling us that Galvan lives and breathes footy, he understands the game so well for someone his age, he's a natural footy player . . . . . so then if he's scared of Latu, and he lives and breathes footy, he must know what he's talking about.
And if he sees latu as a threat, and we've got Latu . . . . we should be sweet !
In all honesty, I can't wait to see the real Jerome playing for us. You know, without the directive to favour any random player . . . maybe one named Lachlan.
And even better, can't wait to see Jarome and Latu form their combo. We reckoned our team has improved in these early rounds, just wait till our halves have direction and none of them are running around like chooks with their heads chopped off.
 
weststigers said:
It makes no sense only because of the flimsy reason he's given. If you remember, he gave a totally different reason the year before and we released Large, moved Sullivan to Souths and debuted him in Rd 1, yet now it's Benji's coaching. I'm sure if we sacked Benji and put in Bellamy, he would find another reason he wants to leave.

There is a monster deal on the table somewhere or, and I am totally speculating here, he doesn't fit the islander culture at the club and he can't really say that publicly. He is also an ex-Parra fanboy and his old school coach is an assistant at Parra. It may be a childhood dream and he may feel more comfortable there.

He's a bit of an awkward kid, so he may struggle to fit into the gold chain influencer brigade. He just ain't that cool.
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"Didn't have Ice Cube, so he bought Vanilla Ice". They say he's pretty fly for a white guy.
 
supercoach said:
And that is why Parra are a different team with Mitchell Moses. Expect to see a completely different team on Monday. It will be a much harder contest than many think
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He's a very good goal kicker as well as other attributes. We would have lost the game last year if he was playing and kicking goals.
Doueihi had better be practising his kicking this week.
 
Enmore_Tiger said:
Puzzling is you completely and repeatedly ignore the Latu/Luai dynamic, the Benji/Moses 1 dynamic, the Galvin/Moses 2 dynamic, the Father loving Parra dynamic, the the club does not see him as a long term half dynamic, the Gus Gould dynamic...
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It's still puzzling as all get out inclusive of those reasons.
 
weststigers said:
It makes no sense only because of the flimsy reason he's given. If you remember, he gave a totally different reason the year before and we released Large, moved Sullivan to Souths and debuted him in Rd 1, yet now it's Benji's coaching. I'm sure if we sacked Benji and put in Bellamy, he would find another reason he wants to leave.

There is a monster deal on the table somewhere or, and I am totally speculating here, he doesn't fit the islander culture at the club and he can't really say that publicly. He is also an ex-Parra fanboy and his old school coach is an assistant at Parra. It may be a childhood dream and he may feel more comfortable there.

He's a bit of an awkward kid, so he may struggle to fit into the gold chain influencer brigade. He just ain't that cool.
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But he’s been playing with and amongst Polynesian kids his whole life, that generation is pretty well assimilated as it should be
 
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