Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tiger Stripes]

If we did sign kpp I think that he or one of fainu or seyfarth will fill the lock role with twally moving back into the prop rotation

Glad to see others have picked up on KPP's decoy runs at speed out wide.
It must be the coaches instructions.
As for his tackling efficiency, not sure how the count them. Is second or third man in counted as a tackle? Lucas was always 1st man in and KPP some time later.
Is KPP hard to bring down, need help on that question? Didn't notice it in the game I watched.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Glad to see others have picked up on KPP's decoy runs at speed out wide.
It must be the coaches instructions.
As for his tackling efficiency, not sure how the count them. Is second or third man in counted as a tackle? Lucas was always 1st man in and KPP some time later.
Is KPP hard to bring down, need help on that question? Didn't notice it in the game I watched.

He has a long legged stride and his pace is deceptive. He is difficult to contain noting how regularly he unloads in traffic for second phase play. He made a brilliant tackle on Fermor last night when he got into a gap and took him one on one. The tackle needed to be made and he took a knock from it but got up and played on. Running of Luai and Galvin he would be a different player.

 

[diedpretty]

Seyfarth is a good NRL forward and has incrementally improved over the years. I always enjoy a player who does this to maximise his contribution to the team. It is a team game and there is room in our squad for Seyfarth and KPP if he is recruited. Depth is the key and for the modest contract he is on Seyfarth offers great value. Love his work and when interviewed he is an articulate and likeable young man.

No doubt he is a great bloke but he just doesn't break the line. He doesn't have the power to run through tackles. He just runs a straight line and gets hammered and driven back every time. He needs to learn to run lines that makes the defence work rather than just stand there and hit him. He has the ability to do it as evidenced by the try he scored against Manly last year. Admittedly the pass from Fainu was exceptional but Seyfarth ran the line that allowed that pass and scored untouched. Unfortunately Galvin with his crossfield running looking for a straight running forward doesn't help.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

No doubt he is a great bloke but he just doesn't break the line. He doesn't have the power to run through tackles. He just runs a straight line and gets hammered and driven back every time. He needs to learn to run lines that makes the defence work rather than just stand there and hit him. He has the ability to do it as evidenced by the try he scored against Manly last year. Admittedly the pass from Fainu was exceptional but Seyfarth ran the line that allowed that pass and scored untouched. Unfortunately Galvin with his crossfield running looking for a straight running forward doesn't help.

He's scored a few tries breaking the defensive line right on the goal line. And at the end of the day the coach and his team value his contribution. You will find team mates want to play with Seyfarth and Twal because they are the ultimate team players. Players you can rely upon to make the tackles to be there to intercept a pass or race to score a try in the in-goal out of effort.

 

[Telltails]

Can't have an effective team without the workers who are all effort. The team may need something that it lacks but not at the expense of the non glamorous players who you know what they are going to do every week.

 

[innsaneink]

God i hope we make some signing or retention announcements soon....round and round in circles here
Paws, are you related to kpp?

 

[Canadian Club]

I would not be shocked if we signed KPP and Seyfarth went to reserve grade. He's excellent depth but who do you displace from our bench?

He's not versatile enough like Bird to take his spot. Obviously he won't take Tallyns spot, and he has no where near the impact of Fainu or Hunt

Valuable squad player for sure. Wouldn't be starting for any other NRL team

I would think Seyfarth and Bird would be competing for the same bench spot with the other being the 18th man. Which is great for squad depth.

Both cover the backrow with Bird also able to cover the centres and Seyfarth able to cover the front row. It may even change depending on who were are playing and who’s in the 14 jersey.

Either way it’s a good problem to have and not one to be worried about.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

KPP from what Ive seen is NO...he would want $600+ and I dont see him much better than Seyfarth who would be on half that salary

Don't let KPP's form at the knights blind you, that whole team is just playing dogshit at the moment.
Even everyone's dream signing Dylan Lucas can't make an impression at the moment, look how poor they were at home last night.

Bring KPP in under Benji's coaching and our improved culture plus a big off season in the weights room and you have a different player, another 5kg of muscle and you have a beast.

 

[Batmans Parents]

He’s not Fifita circa 2022 or Olakuatu playing against us … so he’s shit ! That’s the bar .
Never mind the current edge forward is doing a really good job, so much so any team in The nrl would have him in thier 17 right right now , and many people around the game actively speak about this .
But he’s not dynamic and not huge, so he’s shit as well!
Just people with unrealistic standards , and confirmation bias . I mean we all have it … but anyways . With the way the fans talk about KPP I hope he doesn’t come here . He’s on a hiding to nothing . Unless he plays at the level I just mentioned people will bag the shit out of him . He’s already “shit” and “we need to look for better”, so everything he does will be viewed through the lenses of “alright do something , impress me “ .

Sorry but what a load of rubbish with no substance you just posted. Whole lot of nothing to dispute anything I said and a whole lot of strawmans. No one ever compared Seyfarth to any of those guys nor has anyone compared KPP to those guys but there is no dispute that KPP is a better player than Seyfarth based on both stats and the eye test. I’m sorry if that hurts your feelings.

Is it unrealistic standards to expect a starting second rowers playing full minutes to break 100m at least once over 10 rounds and not give away game changing penalties. Show me one starting second rower averaging 66m over 80 minutes in any top 8 (or frankly any side).

You want to support mediocrity? Go ahead but don’t strawman and make shit up like we expect him to be a Fifita because you’re incapable of arguing against the facts stated against one of your favourites. Team first, not your favourites.

 

[jadtiger]

KPP is a much better player then Seyfarth

Considering the difference in the dollars to each player KPP is the lesser "bang for bucks" imho

 

[TheKhan]

God i hope we make some signing or retention announcements soon....round and round in circles here
Paws, are you related to kpp?

Haha he isn't related to him, he is KPP no question!!!

 

[AdelaideTiger]

KPP is a much better player then Seyfarth

I'm not a one-eyed Seyfarth fan by any means (far too many crucial errors and penalties in his game), but at least he plays full tilt, full time.
KPP looks the part, but I am yet to see a game where he looks fully engaged and committed. Maybe the structure is wrong for him at Newy, but Lucas plays in the same structure and looks 10x the player KPP is. But as I said, if Benji/Richo think he's a goer I'll trust them

 

[BirchgroveTigers]

I would not be shocked if we signed KPP and Seyfarth went to reserve grade. He's excellent depth but who do you displace from our bench?

He's not versatile enough like Bird to take his spot. Obviously he won't take Tallyns spot, and he has no where near the impact of Fainu or Hunt

Valuable squad player for sure. Wouldn't be starting for any other NRL team

Agree. I think seyfarth is a very useful number 18/19 who plays about ten games a year when injuries or origin strikes.

I like seyfarth as he gives his all and loves the club but he isn’t a starter if we ever want to get into the top four and doesn’t match how we structure our bench.

 

[Camel2281]

I would think Seyfarth and Bird would be competing for the same bench spot with the other being the 18th man. Which is great for squad depth.

Both cover the backrow with Bird also able to cover the centres and Seyfarth able to cover the front row. It may even change depending on who were are playing and who’s in the 14 jersey.

Either way it’s a good problem to have and not one to be worried about.

I think it'd be Seyfarth and Sione competing for a spot

 

[JC99]

Considering the difference in the dollars to each player KPP is the lesser "bang for bucks" imho

It's not about bang for bucks, it's about improving the team

I'm not sure why everyone thinks he'll be getting huge money anyway. Sure he got paid well his last deal but if no one is offering him the same, what choice does he have?

 

[Batmans Parents]

I think it'd be Seyfarth and Sione competing for a spot

Picking Seyfarth over Sione would be like picking a tent over a house.

 

[Lestronge]

Picking Seyfarth over Sione would be like picking a tent over a house.

That’s why 1 guy is a starter on the edge and the other is a middle who plays limited minutes off the bench .
I understand you don’t value what Seyfarth offers , or maybe you just don’t see it . That’s fine as well. But I’m telling you right now , seyfarth walks into every single nrl teams top 17 right now , whether you value him or not . That’s not hyperbole either .
He’s a 1% guy. You can’t have a team full of David Fifita. And if you’re the titans or des , you don’t even want 1 .
I 💯 want KPP and Fifita . I’d love both , as I think Samuela could move into the middle , which is where he most wants to play by the way .
But Seyfarth is a starter for a reason . And it’s not because Benji has NFI!
With Toa and himself either side of Galvin , that edge has very limited issues , even with Galvins catching style that basically nearly always puts the defence on the back foot.
But like I said if you don’t value seyfarth , then you’ve got rocks in your head. Especially with Toa in form outside him . There’s absolutely something to be said for reliable , always in the frame , making cover tackles , getting back in defence when the opposition makes a break , always running your lines .
I’ll give you one example of what I’m saying . There was a play early in the first half when the dragons made. Half break down the left edge . Seyfarth was on the left edge middle third making the tackle . Basically 4 players across from where he was supposed to be , because Samuela , and the middles were still getting onside.
He then shifts to the right and ends the set inside Galvin covering a spread to the right side .
I don’t think he made either of those tackles , and you wouldn’t even notice if you haven’t played edge forward before . Because initially I was wondering why he was 4 players out of position , and then I realised he had moved progressively across there both through half breaks and the run of play .
Not everyone does that shit. They get back to thier assigned position and stay there. That’s just an example of the player I think Seyfarth is . That’s desire , heart , and willingness to make efforts upon efforts for your team .
That’s pretty much the exact opposite of mediocrity.
Did I articulate it well enough for you ? My apparent favourites I’m soo biased about …

 

[SeanT]

Anyone else hear that Young was spotted leaving Concord on Thursday?

If it was Hudson Young I'd be keen to hear about it haha

 

[upthetigers]

I think it'd be Seyfarth and Sione competing for a spot

Should we consider starting Sione and have Seyfarth off the bench where he has provided more impact?

 

[Batmans Parents]

That’s why 1 guy is a starter on the edge and the other is a middle who plays limited minutes off the bench .
I understand you don’t value what Seyfarth offers , or maybe you just don’t see it . That’s fine as well. But I’m telling you right now , seyfarth walks into every single nrl teams top 17 right now , whether you value him or not . That’s not hyperbole either .
He’s a 1% guy. You can’t have a team full of David Fifita. And if you’re the titans or des , you don’t even want 1 .
I 💯 want KPP and Fifita . I’d love both , as I think Samuela could move into the middle , which is where he most wants to play by the way .
But Seyfarth is a starter for a reason . And it’s not because Benji has NFI!
With Toa and himself either side of Galvin , that edge has very limited issues , even with Galvins catching style that basically nearly always puts the defence on the back foot.
But like I said if you don’t value seyfarth , then you’ve got rocks in your head. Especially with Toa in form outside him . There’s absolutely something to be said for reliable , always in the frame , making cover tackles , getting back in defence when the opposition makes a break , always running your lines .
I’ll give you one example of what I’m saying . There was a play early in the first half when the dragons made. Half break down the left edge . Seyfarth was on the left edge middle third making the tackle . Basically 4 players across from where he was supposed to be , because Samuela , and the middles were still getting onside.
He then shifts to the right and ends the set inside Galvin covering a spread to the right side .
I don’t think he made either of those tackles , and you wouldn’t even notice if you haven’t played edge forward before . Because initially I was wondering why he was 4 players out of position , and then I realised he had moved progressively across there both through half breaks and the run of play .
Not everyone does that shit. They get back to thier assigned position and stay there. That’s just an example of the player I think Seyfarth is . That’s desire , heart , and willingness to make efforts upon efforts for your team .
That’s pretty much the exact opposite of mediocrity.
Did I articulate it well enough for you ? My apparent favourites I’m soo biased about …

And once again you can't argue the points I made and have to keep using logical fallacies (i.e. appeal to authority with Benji) which shows you no confidence in your argument. Seyfarth is a starter because there is literally no one else but untested juniors second rowers (like Sukkar) to potentially replace him. You think if we get KPP or Fifita that it's going to be Fainu that's shifted out of his spot instead of Seyfarth?? When Seyfarth was off contract, there was ONE team that was looking at him (Warriors) and trust me, it wasn't much of a look.

Yet again, you're using straw-mans claiming we can't have teams full of David Fifita which I never argued for or about. And Seyfarth reliable? The same guy who handed the Warriors the game with a soft but dumb penalty? The guy who dropped the ball on our final set last week to give the Dragons an opportunity in the final minute to tie the game? You seem to love individual examples so there's a few for you just in this season alone. Plenty more I can give you from previous season alone. I could also tell you how heavily he's featured in our three wooden spoons sides but he was just part of a larger problem rather than THE problem.

Here are some actual statistics for 2025 unlike your bullshit anecdotes. Have a read of that and try to spin your way out of them.

I didn't even include average minutes played or penalties which would've made him look even worse which I didn't think was possible. So you can use all the individual examples you want because the stats and eye test overall say you have rocks in your head just like you did with Brooks when you tried to use "football anxiety" as an excuse for his shit play.

And no you didn't really articulate anything and since you want to be snide, it's mainly because having to read through the dreg that you post is like having to listen to my pop with dementia in the nursing home: incoherent rambling that has no relevance and no sense. So try again and try not resorting to using every logical fallacy under the sun. And try thinking of the team instead of your own bias (yes you're heavily biased) because as the stats and eye test show, you really don't have a clue about what's best for the team.