OFFICIAL Lachlan Galvin #277 *Released* Career Discussion.

[Tucker]

No way we get the spoon this year, fact is Benji was willing to have a go and Ciraldo chose not to. The fact Benji hasn't really served a proper apprenticeship shows how even more remarkable his effort has been. He might get fired, he might lead us to the promised land only time will tell. Imo Ciraldo hasn't built the premiership leading team Gus did. Do you honestly think Tucker had Ciraldo come across to us we would be leading the comp now. It's purely hypothetical but I seriously doubt it. Had Gus not begun the process of sorting the Dogs out Ciraldo prob would have rejected that job aswell.

I dont know why you give one coach all the credit and the other none at all...Gould may have built the roster, Ciraldo fashioned them into the team that is leading the comp currently.
BTW...surely youve been around long enough to know you shouldnt say things like "No way we get the spoon this year"... never bet against this club. If May or Bula sustain extended stays in the injury ward, we are bang in trouble.

 

[BZN]

Can we lock the American politics out of a thread meant to be about footy talk and Lachlan Galvin. I don't care how '1984' you think the "mods" are of this, we don't come on hear to talk about that

I was partly responsible for American politics raising its head in this thread IBWT and @WesternSuburbsBoy.

I used the word Trumpian in a reply to a post by Spartan.

After posting my reply @Odessa brought to my attention the fact I had used negative words with regard to T-rump.
I explained I DID NOT include those words in my post; they were 'mysteriously' added AFTER I posted my reply.
I then edited those words from my post.

Imo this is a VERY SERIOUS OCCURENCE.

WE NEED THE MODS. TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS CAME ABOUT, so it never happens again.
It could leave the door open to the possibility of more posts 'mysteriously' being added to that changes the whole meaning of the post.

In fact, I AM SURPRISED WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN AN EXPLANATION ALREADY.
But I guess when all the posts that are related to this HAVE BEEN DELETED, there's nothing to explain.

Odessa mentioned he had taken screen shots of posts previously, so I took screen shots of relevant posts relating to this matter, and I thank him for that idea.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Anything official yet from our club?

You’d know if there was.

 

[innsaneink]

Do you really think Galvin's desire to join Dogs came after hearing Gould praising him on TV? Gould's media roles have zero impact. Players are receiving approaches directly or indirectly, within the rules or otherwise, not through the media.

I dont buy that zero impact
Everyone heard it.
Galvin would have to and for.him.to hear hiself talked up as the next immortal would be music to his ego.
It wouldnt be the sole reason but im sure it didnt dissuade him

 

[Dennisspicer1]

Only 5 months of contract year left at 700k works out just under 300k. The interesting thing is they have Leo Thompson signed from next year as well - you would think they will have to let a few go.

And last week they were offering
TINO 1ML A SEASON.

 

[jrtiger]

I was partly responsible for American politics raising its head in this thread IBWT and @WesternSuburbsBoy.

I used the word Trumpian in a reply to a post by Spartan.

After posting my reply @Odessa brought to my attention the fact I had used negative words with regard to T-rump.
I explained I DID NOT include those words in my post; they were 'mysteriously' added AFTER I posted my reply.
I then edited those words from my post.

Imo this is a VERY SERIOUS OCCURENCE.

WE NEED THE MODS. TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS CAME ABOUT, so it never happens again.
It could leave the door open to the possibility of more posts 'mysteriously' being added to that changes the whole meaning of the post.

In fact, I AM SURPRISED WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN AN EXPLANATION ALREADY.
But I guess when all the posts that are related to this HAVE BEEN DELETED, there's nothing to explain.

 

[Tom Shines]

Anything official yet from our club?

Sukkar extended apparently

 

[jadtiger]

I was partly responsible for American politics raising its head in this thread IBWT and @WesternSuburbsBoy.

I used the word Trumpian in a reply to a post by Spartan.

After posting my reply @Odessa brought to my attention the fact I had used negative words with regard to T-rump.
I explained I DID NOT include those words in my post; they were 'mysteriously' added AFTER I posted my reply.
I then edited those words from my post.

Imo this is a VERY SERIOUS OCCURENCE.

WE NEED THE MODS. TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS CAME ABOUT, so it never happens again.
It could leave the door open to the possibility of more posts 'mysteriously' being added to that changes the whole meaning of the post.

In fact, I AM SURPRISED WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN AN EXPLANATION ALREADY.
But I guess when all the posts that are related to this HAVE BEEN DELETED, there's nothing to explain.

If you use the american idiot's name the description is automatically programmed to include it in the post.

 

[weststigers]

I was partly responsible for American politics raising its head in this thread IBWT and @WesternSuburbsBoy.

I used the word Trumpian in a reply to a post by Spartan.

After posting my reply @Odessa brought to my attention the fact I had used negative words with regard to T-rump.
I explained I DID NOT include those words in my post; they were 'mysteriously' added AFTER I posted my reply.
I then edited those words from my post.

Imo this is a VERY SERIOUS OCCURENCE.

WE NEED THE MODS. TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS CAME ABOUT, so it never happens again.
It could leave the door open to the possibility of more posts 'mysteriously' being added to that changes the whole meaning of the post.

In fact, I AM SURPRISED WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN AN EXPLANATION ALREADY.
But I guess when all the posts that are related to this HAVE BEEN DELETED, there's nothing to explain.

Odessa mentioned he had taken screen shots of posts previously, so I took screen shots of relevant posts relating to this matter, and I thank him for that idea.

Kul, the forum owner has set that word to be replaced with a new phrase automatically. He did it some time ago and hasn't changed it despite objections.

Watch - Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon

(I wrote T-rump without the dash and the above replaced it)

 

[bptiger 0]

I don’t know what more you wanted Richo to do ?
By the reports he did offer more money over a longer time span and the Kid knocked it back.
Pretty obvious Galvin didn’t want to stay.

I think u missed the whole point of his post

 

[Tigerdave]

I would call Gus a c.... but he lacks the depth and warmth.

When someone who is part of another club and also in the media can use their influence in under the table contract negotiations and its just allowed, what exactly, is a governing body for?

The whole thing is a farce.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Kul, the forum owner has set that word to be replaced with a new phrase automatically. He did it some time ago and hasn't changed it despite objections.

Watch - Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon

(I wrote T-rump without the dash and the above replaced it)

Are you telling me it triggers people? What snowflakes.

 

[Oldman]

We won this situation.
Galvin was never staying.
Richo saved our season from 💯 being a write off to still giving us a chance
It unites the playing group with him gone

We were always a stepping stone for Galvin, the quicker we accept that the eaiser it is to move on.. he never wanted to be here.. so we are better with him not here..

There are a lot in this forum that have been pushing the L.Fainu is a better prospect than Galvin.
And if they turn out to be correct all of us can be thankful that Galvin knocked back our record offer.
One thing I will say is for all the talk about Galvin not wanting to be here for the last year and a half I wish every other player in our top 30 trained as hard as he did.
People can say what they like about the kid but one thing they can’t accuse him of is not giving his all when he put the Tigers jersey on.
Life goes on and so will the mighty Tigers 🐅

 

[Tucker]

I dont think its that simple when you are dealing with moses weidler and co...we all know moses has plenty in the media in his pocket.
This isnt your standard employment contract situation...they use the media to suit their narrative and agenda which doesnt happen in your usual workplace

The difference is there are dirty cards that can be played in the public realm.
This was kept in house for 4 days and no one was any the wiser bar speculation until Richo released that statement. There was a lot of emotion in it but not a lot of detail. This fired up the journos and they circled in tighter than a fish's bum. Very soon we knew the size of the contract and we knew about the reasons he wanted to leave.
The leaking of this information helped create a sympathetic view on the Tigers. I dont believe that releasing that information was in Galvin's best interests as it makes him look greedy, entitled etc... and as they hadnt said a word in 4 days and apparently didnt even look at the contract, it stands to reason that this info was leaked by the club. Weve since heard a lot of journos admit it came from the club.
I dont know for sure what happened there, but its highly likely the club instigated this by going public and straight away, there was backlash.
Social media went into meltdown, players were reacting publicly all talking heads were giving their two cents. Galvin was demoted and it was largely reported that the players forced Benji to do this.
Team Galvin had to release a press statement to temper the reaction - this is another reason I dont believe they were behind the initial leaking.
Enter Mr Gould raising concerns for Lachies welfare. He raised these concerns on tele and a podcast. Channel 9 personalities then started supporting the kid. This was met by a staged press conference from the club where Benji did really well but it didnt quieten things down enough and the loss that weekend was amplified by word the club received a legal letter from Camp Galvin.
Then other players were brought into it to create a narrative of bullying and players being treated poorly. The club decided another interview would quell things so Richo went on the Graham podcast and sold the situation as being overblown. One month later and we find out it wasnt overblown at all and the kid would be released immediately if certain conditions were met by the recruiting club. As of today, this is yet to occurr.

Mate Ive been in contract negotiations far bigger than this. This ^ is not how its done.

 

[Tucker]

I don’t know what more you wanted Richo to do ?
By the reports he did offer more money over a longer time span and the Kid knocked it back.
Pretty obvious Galvin didn’t want to stay.

How about understanding why he didnt?
How about working through his issues...we know he had a few collated in his infamous dossier.
Simply throwing money at the problem and then setting a powder keg that is still going off wasnt helpful in the slightest.

 

[BAGNF05]

Am I missing something here?

Don’t managers get paid as a percentage of their players contract?

If so, Moses (who if you believe most on this forum) has instigated this whole sorry saga, so he himself, could get less money 🤔

Doesn’t the way it’s played out, now suggest that the manager was just doing what the player requested him to do?

As I said at the start - Am I missing something here? 🤷‍♂️

The kid was on around 300K here for the next 18 months

 

[Tucker]

We won this situation.
Galvin was never staying.
Richo saved our season from 💯 being a write off to still giving us a chance
It unites the playing group with him gone

We were always a stepping stone for Galvin, the quicker we accept that the eaiser it is to move on.. he never wanted to be here.. so we are better with him not here..

We havent won anything.
If Galvin was never staying - and I dont think he was - then this could have all occured behind closed doors and been handled professionally.
The resulting shitfight hasnt helped the clubs image and Id wager a guess and state it seems to have affected our recruitment to some degree. We are once again a laughing stock and a punching bag.
He hasnt saved our season, what rot. Thats in the hands of Benji and the playing group. Additionally, we have zero idea how this has affected the unity of the group - we havent played yet!
Your last sentence is correct. Its about time you took your blinkers off as you have not been saying this for very long at all.

 

[weststigers]

Are you telling me it triggers people? What snowflakes.

Is that what you got out of what I said?

 

[Oldman]

How about understanding why he didnt?
How about working through his issues...we know he had a few collated in his infamous dossier.
Simply throwing money at the problem and then setting a powder keg that is still going off wasnt helpful in the slightest.

I’m only going on what I have read and heard in the media, Galvin stated he can’t see his game improving under the coaching of benji.
I have heard with my own ears the same from his father.
We on this forum don’t know what or if Richo did anything with both coach and player to see if they could work it out, I’m guessing by offering Galvin a contract Benji was prepared to work with Galvin.
By Galvin not even looking at the offer he was not going to change his mind.
If Galvin was the only player in our current squad with that opinion Richo should have no concerns about the Coaching ability of Benji.
They are are building a new team and culture in the club that I have said numerous times it is still about 2 years away.
Losing one player should not stop the process.

 

[tig_prmz]

Yes, this has been my opinion since the day it occurred. Moses didnt release all this information, the club did. That decision has started a chain reaction that led directly to where we are here today where we have to watch another talented young gun leave this place and drag us through tonnes of drama in the media.

Once again, the club is absolved of all failings. Its easier for the fanbase to have an evil entity to blame and Moses has form here. The mob also loves a scapegoat to attack and can turn on anyone in the blink of an eye.
The resulting narrative is that Moses is an underhanded piece of shit who hates this club and is actively trying to bring it down and Galvin is an entitled brat who divided the playing group as he hates the coach and may also be tanking games.
No one is questioning the Club's role in this because..."In Richo we trust"....

I don't think we've done anything wrong here, but something we do need to do better is get the trust of the NRL.

If you were to poll all 510 contracted players in the NRL, we wouldn't be in the Top 10 choices of almost every player if the money provided was even.

Player managers apprently find it hard to deal with us and ex-players shit on us when they leave.

The only people who seem to like us is the media because we help them get clicks. All the podcast channels, YouTube channels etc love discussing us because we give them so much to discuss.

I've been saying this from the start that we should've just said nothing until Nov 1 or close to the end of the season.

We came out so strong so quickly that it could only ever be a Him vs Us thing.

Luai, JAC, Burton, Thompson etc signed elsewhere with a year to go in their contract but there was barely any drama to it.

In saying all that though, the bottom line is that this kid had a contract with us for $350k for a year and a half and now he's getting $700k. We should be compensated for that. We should get an extra $350k added to our salary cap next year. (obviously won't happen), but just some sort of salary cap dispensation. Moses, Aloiai, Matterson, Galvin etc.. they all can't keep getting away with this. Literally all of them have used a mental health card to get an early exit and make more money out of it. Pathetic NRL still won't do anything about it.