Tallyn Da Silva #270

[batboy]

Recruiting Sexton is exactly what Phil Gould wants, to assist with the Bulldog's cap and to annoy Fainu in the hope he joins the Dogs.

He’s not contracted - won’t effect their cap at all

 

[pawsandclaws1]

He’s not contracted - won’t effect their cap at all

SHOOSH

Out-of-favour Bulldogs half Toby Sexton has been offered to the Wests Tigers as a replacement for Lachlan Galvin. We’re hearing the Tigers have other priorities at this stage but it’s one to keep an eye on. Sexton at halfback with Luai at five-eighth could possibly work. We hear the Titans might be interested in Sexton as well.

 

[batboy]

You bring up the three wooden spoons when it suits your argument, but seem unwilling to grasp just how deep the rebuild needs to be—especially after three consecutive spoons and a full decade of dysfunction beforehand.

This is the 4th year of ‘this’ rebuild right?

How many more years you figuring before we start the next one?

 

[batboy]

SHOOSH

Out-of-favour Bulldogs half Toby Sexton has been offered to the Wests Tigers as a replacement for Lachlan Galvin. We’re hearing the Tigers have other priorities at this stage but it’s one to keep an eye on. Sexton at halfback with Luai at five-eighth could possibly work. We hear the Titans might be interested in Sexton as well.

Only a happy clapper like you could possibly think that’s for an immediate move…

 

[Bellend]

Will not happen, Bulldogs are sniffing around another our promising juniors. Time Richo grew a set
and come out swinging.

 

[tig_prmz]

More importantly why should he even need to make a promise like that. To me it sounds like a few of these kids are unwilling to do the hard yards and win their spots...or they just want to cash in asap. So I take from his comment that the family were agitating for some time about the fact they wanted their son as the starting 9 on good coin and were not willing to back themselves to earn the spot on merit.

These kids are everywhere.
We don't manage them well or give them false expectations at the start of the contract.

 

[Needaname]

I don’t care when it started… when’s it going to finish?

Just be patient right…

I’m hoping Richo has a better idea about player value and worth to a team.

 

[batboy]

These kids are everywhere.
We don't manage them well or give them false expectations at the start of the contract.

We've got our heads in the sand if we think the managers aren't signing their kids up here because they KNOW they'll be signed on overs,
fast tracked to first grade and in the front of the Shop Window
to help get them into a real club down the track.

 

[tig_prmz]

We've got our heads in the sand if we think the managers aren't signing their kids up here because they KNOW they'll be signed on overs,
fast tracked to first grade and in the front of the Shop Window
to help get them into a real club down the track.

That is exactly what's happening.

The club doesn't care though because they'll keep signing new shiny players to keep the fans engaged, then release them without a proper explanation.

 

[batboy]

That is exactly what's happening.

The club doesn't care though because they'll keep signing new shiny players to keep the fans engaged, then release them without a proper explanation.

Jordan Miller was a real factor for me,
That kid was Top 30 and on 300k+ this year?

Hasn't played Footy for a year, Anywhere!
Even Matt Lodge has had a run and keeping his toe in it,
Retired blokes like Fifita, Blake Austin still in the game.
Almost was like Kiah Cooper - Still playing.

This kid was a 19yr old being paid overs as a professional footballer
(All well deserved if you ask him) and just came back to Training.

WT's are the Cuck of the game.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

More importantly why should he even need to make a promise like that. To me it sounds like a few of these kids are unwilling to do the hard yards and win their spots...or they just want to cash in asap. So I take from his comment that the family were agitating for some time about the fact they wanted their son as the starting 9 on good coin and were not willing to back themselves to earn the spot on merit.

I didn’t read it like that at all.

Richo was saying if Tallyn stayed, he was going to play NSW Cup next year and would have had to take a pay cut for the privilege.

“Unwilling to do the hard yards” had nothing to do with it.
Club opted for Api,
and Tallyn was shown the door ...

 

[Needaname]

Jordan Miller was a real factor for me,
That kid was Top 30 and on 300k+ this year?

Hasn't played Footy for a year, Anywhere!
Even Matt Lodge has had a run and keeping his toe in it,
Retired blokes like Fifita, Blake Austin still in the game.
Almost was like Kiah Cooper - Still playing.

This kid was a 19yr old being paid overs as a professional footballer
(All well deserved if you ask him) and just came back to Training.

WT's are the Cuck of the game.

Look we took a gamble. Signed all our best kids on big long term contracts whilst they come of age in the lower grades hoping the money would keep them satisfied in the meantime.
I think we need to look beyond the contracts offered to the kids and start factoring what else we can bring into the club to make it an attraction for younger players to stay around.
For years the draw has pretty much been a quicker opportunity to play first grade due to our piss poor roster.
We still need to finalise that top 17-20 players and make it as elite as possible. Something for the kids to look towards in respect and admiration not in distain.

 

[batboy]

Look we took a gamble. Signed all our best kids on big long term contracts whilst they come of age in the lower grades hoping the money would keep them satisfied in the meantime.
I think we need to look beyond the contracts offered to the kids and start factoring what else we can bring into the club to make it an attraction for younger players to stay around.
For years the draw has pretty much been a quicker opportunity to play first grade due to our piss poor roster.
We still need to finalise that top 17-20 players and make it as elite as possible. Something for the kids to look towards in respect and admiration not in distain.

Be easier to swallow if it's not what we've been doing
(Overpaying / Promoting Kids) since forever.
We've proven time and time again it doesn't work.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Jordan Miller was a real factor for me,
That kid was Top 30 and on 300k+ this year?

Hasn't played Footy for a year, Anywhere!
Even Matt Lodge has had a run and keeping his toe in it,
Retired blokes like Fifita, Blake Austin still in the game.
Almost was like Kiah Cooper - Still playing.

This kid was a 19yr old being paid overs as a professional footballer
(All well deserved if you ask him) and just came back to Training.

WT's are the Cuck of the game.

I was out at Bateau a couple of Sundays back to watch Blake Austin playing for Berka.

Having spent much of the warm-up clutching high up on his hamstring, he hobbled around like an eighty year old on stilts.

To his credit, when the refs whistle blew he led the Panthers out and proceeded to steer them around the park. Remarkably the injury didn’t prevent him launching a couple of towering bombs.

The Entrance got the chocolates, but then again The Entrance usually get the chocolates 🥴

 

[Needaname]

Be easier to swallow if it's not what we've been doing
(Overpaying / Promoting Kids) since forever.
We've proven time and time again it doesn't work.

I believe that starts with the club backing Api so strongly!

 

[Wezt]

where is Jordan miller now?

He has a lot of potential he just needs to drop 10kg and get his fitness right

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

where is Jordan miller now?

He has a lot of potential he just needs to drop 10kg and get his fitness right

Apparently mediation hasn't work between the club & Jordan/solicitors so all likelihood heading to court. I think Buzz or Weidler reported this.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Be easier to swallow if it's not what we've been doing
(Overpaying / Promoting Kids) since forever.
We've proven time and time again it doesn't work.

In Miller's case should we have let him go in hindsight you would say yes but when he was re-signed there were other clubs wanting him bumping up his price.

Even though looking overweight right or wrong clubs could see potential in him.

 

[jirskyr]

What about TDS doesnt fit the culture? There was some feedback coming out of the club in preseason that he was outstanding. Leadship camp included. They wanted to re-sign him.

I can understand him wanting to sign elsewhere. I also can see why the club preferred Api. Tristan Hope as the back up for the rest of the year and possibly next is simply not good enough though. The squad, which is already shallow, now lacks even more depth in one of the only positions we actually had depth. There was no incentive that I can see for releasing Tallan this year, except hand-wavy reasons re culture.

The culture of biding your time and putting the team first.

He clearly doesn't want to put the team first, he puts himself first. He wants a big deal and he wants to play first grade. He's clearly not ready for first grade week in and out.

We have one of the best rakes in the comp, nobody can argue against it, and Api throws himself 100% into everything. His behaviour and his actions and his words are all modest and club-first. Api is a leader and he's done it all - rep footy, premierships at multiple clubs.

TDS doesn't want to continue to develop behind Api. That is a selfish move. I understand why he wants to do it, but like Galvin that is all "personal brand" first. TDS has not achieved anything, he's the backup hooker at the 3 x wooden spoon club.

I'm not saying TDS is a bad person, but Tigers are desperate for a few years where the players focus more on coherent football and gradual improvement than their personal metrics and personal branding. The issue with trying to retain all these juniors is some of them get huge ideas because they dominated the local comp, then they get highly impatient. We gave Galvin an early opportunity, earlier than other clubs would have given, and he's used that to agitate to move to a better-performing club. TDS has now done the same thing - been given some decent opportunities, played OK, then leveraged that to a big deal with a desperate Sydney club.

Those mentalities will not help us improve over time. I have much more respect for the guys like Api, Turuva, Luai who don't talk themselves up, don't cause trouble and dissent within the club because of their personal ambitions, go out there and give 100% every week and bleed for the club. That's the right way to build.

 

[Chunk]

I didn’t read it like that at all.

Richo was saying if Tallyn stayed, he was going to play NSW Cup next year and would have had to take a pay cut for the privilege.

“Unwilling to do the hard yards” had nothing to do with it.
Club opted for Api,
and Tallyn was shown the door ...

There's certainly some pressure on APi, if he loses form or keeps getting injured next year.......gggrrrrr.

I don't think he will btw