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[TSP]

Not a capitulation, just a choice not to engage in the circular arguments purposely instigated with feigned idiocy by keyboard warriors such @BZN @TSP @Magpie_Magic @Bus 2 Terrigal, seem to promote on these forums. I just put these farkwits on ignore. Welcome to the club!

@BZN is probably one the brightest lights on the forum.

@Magpie_Magic , @Bus 2 Terrigal are both just as good.

If people can’t appreciate them, they have issues.

 

[weststigers]

Is this a serious post or are you taking the piss?

Is this a serious post?

 

[coivtny]

Is this a serious post?

OK, you're being a dick. I get it.

 

[wonka]

We haven't made the finals in 14 years, How can anyone be happy with the way the club is being run.

 

[gallagher]

We haven't made the finals in 14 years, How can anyone be happy with the way the club is being run.

I'm fairly happy with things since Richardson come along.

 

[coivtny]

We haven't made the finals in 14 years, How can anyone be happy with the way the club is being run.

Nobody should be. The subject that is being argued (by some) is whether Wests Magpies are to blame. There are people who should be blamed e.g Pascoe, Lee H but there a quite a few others along the way. I can't see how Wests are to blame any more than you'd blame Balmain

 

[Tim Sheens]

Hard to say… could it be worse?
Benny Elias did offer to buy the club.

Yeah, after he poisoned it, and what a slow death it was, with the old Balmain Leagues Club left rotting as an eyesore until finally put out of its misery in recent months.

 

[cochise]

Nobody should be. The subject that is being argued (by some) is whether Wests Magpies are to blame. There are people who should be blamed e.g Pascoe, Lee H but there a quite a few others along the way. I can't see how Wests are to blame any more than you'd blame Balmain

Because they had the majority of seats on the board that appointed those people and kept them in those roles even after they showed they couldn't do it.

 

[coivtny]

Because they had the majority of seats on the board that appointed those people and kept them in those roles even after they showed they couldn't do it.

Wests Magpies?????

 

[gregjm87]

Howdy batboy. Appreciate you weighing in.

I'm not here to inflate ego, just to speak up for something I care about.
If that comes across as self-importance to you, I hear the feedback.

But I'm not sure how defending a legacy, questioning governance, and calling for respectful inclusion gets spun into a caricature.
If arguing for fair representation makes me a villain, it says more about the culture than the cause.

I don't pretend to be a keeper of the Magpie flame, but I refuse to let it be snuffed out without a voice.
This forum should be a place where all Wests Tigers supporters, regardless of their founding allegiance, feel safe to express their views.
Right now, it doesn't always feel that way for those of us who speak from a Magpies POV.

You clearly care about the betterment of the NRL club, and I respect that.
But preserving legacy and advocating for fairness doesn't diminish progress, it strengthens it.

Thanks for reading. No hard feelings from me, just different perspectives trying to coexist.

BZN, I've only been casually tuning in and out of this debate reading bits here and there. So apologies if you have already answered this.
Defending legacy is fair enough for Magpies fans as it is for Balmain fans so I won't touch on that.
But with regard to questioning governance and wanting respectful inclusion. What exactly are you referring to here? I think the Governance of the club can fairly be questioned in a broad sense but I certainly don't see any anti-Magpies bias in the the managing of the club.
Similarly how does respectful inclusion look to you? I don't see any exclusion of the Magpies in any way. If anything I believe there is more of a Wests Magpies presence within the club than Balmain Tigers.
I can certainly understand a perspective that some fans of the Wests tigers don't care about the heritage of one or either side of the club. But I don't see this from those making the decisions.
How does the club become more pro Magpies without at the same time neglecting their Balmain roots?

 

[cochise]

Wests Magpies?????

Sorry, the Holman Barnes Group.

 

[coivtny]

Sorry, the Holman Barnes Group.

My post that you commented on clearly referred to Wests Magpies being the target for some of the vitriol on here. I am not and have never defended HBG for the shambles that we all have witnessed for far too long.

 

[BZN]

@BZN is probably one the brightest lights on the forum.

@Magpie_Magic , @Bus 2 Terrigal are both just as good.

If people can’t appreciate them, they have issues.

Thanks for sticking your neck out TSP, much appreciated.
For your sake you had better stop with the positive comments, otherwise you'll lose your head as well as your neck 😉.

 

[jadtiger]

Nobody should be. The subject that is being argued (by some) is whether Wests Magpies are to blame. There are people who should be blamed e.g Pascoe, Lee H but there a quite a few others along the way. I can't see how Wests are to blame any more than you'd blame Balmain

I have not seen anybody say Wests Magpies are to blame,however i would say that HBG are at least partially to blame for our continuing failure.Richo is trying to turn the club around and hopefully he will but he needs help from all areas of the club to do that.

 

[TSP]

Thanks for sticking your neck out TSP, much appreciated.
For your sake you had better stop with the positive comments, otherwise you'll lose your head as well as your neck 😉.

I’m just being honest my son.

There’s been a lot of on line bullying on this forum recently.

 

[coivtny]

I have not seen anybody say Wests Magpies are to blame,however i would say that HBG are at least partially to blame for our continuing failure.Richo is trying to turn the club around and hopefully he will but he needs help from all areas of the club to do that.

Totally agree with you. HBG have a lot to answer for. I was responding to another poster earlier in this thread who laid the blame fairly and squarely at the feet of Wests Magpies. I won’t go back and find the thread for you because it sounds like we not at all apart in our thinking. I was just defending the Maggies from an unfair attack,
I loved Wests and always respected Balmain as one tough football club. I’m glad we merged and hope, as you do, that Richie can turn it around.

 

[cochise]

My post that you commented on clearly referred to Wests Magpies being the target for some of the vitriol on here. I am not and have never defended HBG for the shambles that we all have witnessed for far too long.

Agreed, my issues have always been with the HBG.

 

[jirskyr]

How did an article about Marshall tackling Doueihi get hijacked into a pissing contest about who’s running the club?

Because INTERNET

 

[BZN]

Who said that. I certainly didn’t, WT fans are made up from different groups two of which are old Balmain fans and old Wests fans. In those two groups are a small minority who wish things were as they once were in relation to Wests or Balmain.
These minorities occasionally act up on the forum, I have no desire to return to pre 2000 arrangements as I remember how bad things were for Wests.
But I will defend Wests or HBG from unreasonable or unwarranted criticism.

Coivtny...I appreciate your balanced tone and your defence of Wests Magpies when needed.
I just want to clarify something you said about "a small minority who wish things were as they once were".
I also have no desire to return to pre 2000 arrangements.
I too lived through that era and know how tough it was for the Magpies.

So I hope you weren't referring to me in that comment, because my posts have consistently focused on representation, not regression.

What I am saying, and have said in every post, is that the current jersey doesn't reflect a fair balance.
The Magpies have been diluted to a small patch on the collar and shoulder, while the Tiger dominates the colours of our jersey and branding narrative.
Thats not equal representation...it's symbolic marginalisation.

This isn't about turning the clock back. It's about ensuring that both sides of the JV are visible, valued and celebrated.

Because right now, the story told by our branding feels overwhelmingly one sided.

 

[BZN]

I’m just being honest my son.

There’s been a lot of on line bullying on this forum recently.

Thanks for your honesty TSP, and once again much appreciated 👍.