Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Vicious said:
Fair enough. you could be right and that is sufficient competition and back up.
All 3 are local products so I hope you are right.
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I’d love to be able to upgrade most positions … but I’m assuming that there are probably only a couple more external signings still to come ..
 
tigahhh said:
if you knew anything about our pathways you’d know they’re actually very strong atm & there is NRL talent coming through
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I'd hedge my bets I'd know about as much as most,
Having followed them for more than 30 years - Although not as closely the last 2-3.

FYI Jersey Flegg is mid table, And the Magpies are 9th out of 13 Teams, Both Top 5 Comps.
Matts and Ball didn't play finals in either System.
How far back you want to go?

You're definition of 'Really Strong' might need some Adjustment.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
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Havili set to move as NRL veterans wait on contracts

Almost 90 NRL players are facing uncertain futures with close to one-sixth of the league still unsigned beyond October.
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Unless we have another bench utility who can play dummy half up our sleeve, I damn well hope we're talking to Havili who can cover hooker & be a powerful middle off the bench. This is 100% an area of need for us next season as Hope doesn't have the versatility & Haywood is at least 12-18 months away.
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We definitely need either a bigger body or a hard hittting aggressive defender who can potentially start NRL games and get the job done to allow Api to come on at around the 20th minute mark after the heat of the battle.
That is is problem in us signing Tristan Hope to a top 30 deal.
I like Tristan as a player, but he’s only small and is a similar style of player Api, he doesn’t really offer a point of difference such as hard hitting defence.
Havili is getting on in years, but he could potentially offer this point of difference while seeing if our own much younger, but similar style of player in Josese Lanyon develops well enough to become NRL quality.
 
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BlackWhiteGold said:
aapnews.aap.com.au

Havili set to move as NRL veterans wait on contracts

Almost 90 NRL players are facing uncertain futures with close to one-sixth of the league still unsigned beyond October.
aapnews.aap.com.au aapnews.aap.com.au

Unless we have another bench utility who can play dummy half up our sleeve, I damn well hope we're talking to Havili who can cover hooker & be a powerful middle off the bench. This is 100% an area of need for us next season as Hope doesn't have the versatility & Haywood is at least 12-18 months away.
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Perfect Bench Utility for us, 4 years too late.
Can Play Dummy half and has some Grunt if you need him elsewhere.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
aapnews.aap.com.au

Havili set to move as NRL veterans wait on contracts

Almost 90 NRL players are facing uncertain futures with close to one-sixth of the league still unsigned beyond October.
aapnews.aap.com.au aapnews.aap.com.au

Unless we have another bench utility who can play dummy half up our sleeve, I damn well hope we're talking to Havili who can cover hooker & be a powerful middle off the bench. This is 100% an area of need for us next season as Hope doesn't have the versatility & Haywood is at least 12-18 months away.
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He would be a great player to get would instantly add aggression to forwards. On a two year contract would be perfect role model for the younger players.
 
Tiger Stripes said:
It's always big news at WT when we lose young players, right? Penrith lose them all the time, right?
Why did we lose them? ............because they spat the dummy. They wanted to be the number one straight away or I'm out of here. OR were just using WT as a stepping stone to get to where their heart really was OR bolster their ego/bank accounts.
You cant blame WT for not trying, but there are limiting factors to consider, such as salary cap, team harmony and promoting from within by deserving pathways players.
It's all a huge juggle; and very, very hard to keep everyone happy!
But it must be managed a) to keep the best. b) have a plan to attract the best. c) and balance the salary cap. Not an easy path.
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It is a “huge juggle”.

Trouble is we’ve been spraying the balls all over the shop for a decade and a half.

Penrith on the other hand lose players because they just keep winning those pesky premierships and either the salary cap, or champion players standing in the way forces some to move on . Also, sadly we don’t have a Jamie Jones deciding with great accuracy who in their pathway system to prioritise
 
Bus 2 Terrigal said:
Surely recruitment involves a whole bunch of people - with the coach having a huge say.

Talent scouting on the other hand used to be largely ex players, fans, contacts etc out in the country. I can remember back in the early 1990s I even turned my hand to a bit of talent scouting. I remember trying my darnedest to get the Magpies to sign Mal Peckham. The kid was a genius. Little did I know at the time, Arthur Beetson who was at Cronulla then, was similarly keen. Apparently Artie had identified Peckham ahead of Dave Peachey but the young three quarter simply wasn’t interested in leaving Moree (he did later play one season with Redcliffe however). Many years on and after all the dust has settled - stories of the great Mal ‘Sunboy’ Peckham are still told far and wide in NSW country circles 👍
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the Bulldogs 7 recruitment guys can make 7x more contacts than our 1 guy. Does it make sense now?
 
batboy said:
I'd hedge my bets I'd know about as much as most,
Having followed them for more than 30 years - Although not as closely the last 2-3.

FYI Jersey Flegg is mid table, And the Magpies are 9th out of 13 Teams, Both Top 5 Comps.
Matts and Ball didn't play finals in either System.
How far back you want to go?

You're definition of 'Really Strong' might need some Adjustment.
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cup came dead last, last year & started this year 1/4. richo added external recruits bc he always says you need a strong cup team to have a strong FG side and they have turned that team around. they are at least a chance of finals which hasn’t happened in donkeys years. with the additions of jock & javon that team will be even more competitive

they sacked the flegg coaching staff in may and the team has improved off the back of that, with genuine talent that can’t crack into the cup squad and limited development deals on offer because other talented kids in our pathways have already snapped them up for next year. tino tavana is one of them

just looking at a ladder and saying our pathways are a mess isn’t a correct reflection of how the club is working to strengthen the squads
 
tigahhh said:
cup came dead last, last year & started this year 1/4. richo added external recruits bc he always says you need a strong cup team to have a strong FG side and they have turned that team around. they are at least a chance of finals which hasn’t happened in donkeys years. with the additions of jock & javon that team will be even more competitive

they sacked the flegg coaching staff in may and the team has improved off the back of that, with genuine talent that can’t crack into the cup squad and limited development deals on offer because other talented kids in our pathways have already snapped them up for next year. tino tavana is one of them

just looking at a ladder and saying our pathways are a mess isn’t a correct reflection of how the club is working to strengthen the squads
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Hang on, You said it was 'Very Strong' atm (Which is Dogshit)

Now you're saying it's 'Better', Better Than what?
We have NRL players coming through our Pathways - Wow, Do any of the other clubs know?
Surely we're the only ones?

I get all the kids are playing up, I can see that
- But that doesn't mean the pathways are really strong - It means they're desperately out of whack.
And going off the results for as far as I can remember - That's how it's been.
 
Bus 2 Terrigal said:
But seriously I look at the Canterbury NRL squad and I don’t see where these forty five extra recruitment/talent scouts are making a huge difference. Outside the Penrith guys they are either local juniors or other teams offcuts.
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It's all still fairly recent, Is Gus 3 years in or some?
How are their Matts, Ball and 20's doing (Serious Question)
 
batboy said:
Hang on, You said it was 'Very Strong' atm (Which is Dogshit)

Now you're saying it's 'Better', Better Than what?
We have NRL players coming through our Pathways - Wow, Do any of the other clubs know?
Surely we're the only ones?

I get all the kids are playing up, I can see that
- But that doesn't mean the pathways are really strong - It means they're desperately out of whack.
And going off the results for as far as I can remember - That's how it's been.
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how are they out of whack? all that writing and you didn’t make one actual point there
 
batboy said:
It's all still fairly recent, Is Gus 3 years in or some?
How are their Matts, Ball and 20's doing (Serious Question)
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Yeah granted they are strong in junior reps, but they’ve always been pretty strong down there. Wests have been fairly strong in recent years too. The Dogs junior reps pick off guys from other pathway systems - Conti, Cooper Toy, Cassius Tia etc. I would suggest you don’t need 45 guys to achieve this.

One Jamie Jones, or Peter O’Sullivan could do that job
 
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