Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[liltiger]

And how many Tigers players in the last 15 years have put a season of consistent football together.

The reality is Latu is incapable of doing what AD did on the weekend and what he’s done over over the past 6 weeks or so. Hopefully he’ll get there, but there’s also a very real possibility he won’t.

It’s weird that AD seems to get judged to such a higher standard compared to the rest of the squad. He is in the top handful of players in our 30 man squad and we haven’t re signed him. It’s that simple, get it done.

AD gets held to that standard because he's not a rookie anymore. Latu is only 19. We need to keep it in perspective, The way I look at it Jerome Hughes didn't get shifted to halfback till he was 25. Had a few injury issues but got into the Storm system, learned then was put in. Latu is only 19, if we can use AD to play lock / half and Latu lock / half while Latu serves his apprenticeship in 2 years Latu will have more learning to do but will be ready for a more full time role at 7. Also think once Latu gets his first Injury free preseason at 7 under his belt he will be heaps better for it. AD alone for his utility value as long as he's not asking massive dollars is worth it.

 

[liltiger]

I think he's saying that the NRL won't register his contract while he is on parole, because the sentence is not technically finished until the parole is over.

There is also no guarantee, because of the crime itself, that the NRL will even allow him to come back.

Not sure who told you that this is restraint of trade.

Just curious if he is on parole. If the court as part of his parole allow him to travel and take part in the game, if the N.R.L could legally enforce not allowing his contract to be registered. Just curious how they could enforce it.

 

[Nonotmeagain]

Just curious if he is on parole. If the court as part of his parole allow him to travel and take part in the game, if the N.R.L could legally enforce not allowing his contract to be registered. Just curious how they could enforce it.

They don't register it - simple - and you have to be registered to play. They are allowed to determine who plays in their competition and under what rules. They are not restraining his trade as there are other avenues to allow him to earn a living playing football ( Super League for instance) they are enforcing the rules of THEIR competition. Similar to the rules they enforce on how old you can be, who can play SoO, what the conditions are to represent a country etc.

 

[TheEnz]

So, just playing devil's advocate here but, someone is released from jail and his prior occupation is professional football player, should the NRL have the right to refuse him to make an honest living as part of his release and rehabilitation.

Would it happen if he was a builder, plumber or electrician?

Would the Master Builder's Association or relevant industry association say that he could not work in that industry until the time that his full prison term has expired?

If the state believes he has served his time well and is rehabilitated, then the NRL would need to follow suit.

 

[TheEnz]

This actually worries me. Knowing our luck, we will be penalised harshly.

dogs would be going down a very slippery slope with the NRL if they got lawyers involved. Storm in a teacup.

 

[weststigers]

Just curious if he is on parole. If the court as part of his parole allow him to travel and take part in the game, if the N.R.L could legally enforce not allowing his contract to be registered. Just curious how they could enforce it.

Imagine if you started a company and a court told you that you must hire people coming out of prison because they used to do the same thing your new company does?

The NRL is a private organisation. They do not have to register every contract just because it falls under the cap. They can reject anyone on any basis provided it's not based on unjust discriminatory grounds such as those protected in Australia (race etc.).

For example, they wouldn't register Folau for a simple insta post...different, but he also didn't go to prison either.

 

[Nonotmeagain]

If the state believes he has served his time well and is rehabilitated, then the NRL would need to follow suit.

It does not.

 

[TheEnz]

It does not.

You are right, however the decision not to register him could have some legal repercussions, it's not like he killed the bloke. I would argue some of the shit players have done around DV, sexual assault etc... and been allowed to come back is as bad or worse than what this guy did.

 

[weststigers]

If the state believes he has served his time well and is rehabilitated, then the NRL would need to follow suit.

Not true. No private organisation can be forced to hire anyone.

Restraint of trade laws are seriously misunderstood in relation to this topic and they don't apply.

For example, a bank fraudster gets out of prison and serves his time, then all the banks refuse his job application because they believe the negative PR it would generate for the bank would be too great and could result in lower trust from their customers, they have no obligation to hire him.

 

[PabloX]

I'd happily take Liam Henry off the panthers hands

 

[bptiger 0]

Agree with you. I will not go to a Canterbury game because their fans are so offensive.

So now the nrl have said the players will be fined $1500 each , yet the dogs fans can say and do what ever they like , and how f****** weak are the dogs management are for complaining, was it just a jesture for us flogging them , they really are becoming a rotten club

 

[Jimmy Jazz]

If the state believes he has served his time well and is rehabilitated, then the NRL would need to follow suit.

If he's on parole he hasn't been rehabilitated, parole is part of his rehabilition. Parole also has conditions that need to be met eg: reporting to police, travel restrictions etc. This really is a spurious line of thinking that he could sue anybody for a restraint of trade.

 

[cqtiger]

So now the nrl have said the players will be fined $1500 each , yet the dogs fans can say and do what ever they like , and how f****** weak are the dogs management are for complaining, was it just a jesture for us flogging them , they really are becoming a rotten club

Pay the money. It was worth it!

 

[NT_Tiger]

So now the nrl have said the players will be fined $1500 each , yet the dogs fans can say and do what ever they like , and how f****** weak are the dogs management are for complaining, was it just a jesture for us flogging them , they really are becoming a rotten club

They've been a rotten club for a long time.

 

[coivtny]

So now the nrl have said the players will be fined $1500 each , yet the dogs fans can say and do what ever they like , and how f****** weak are the dogs management are for complaining, was it just a jesture for us flogging them , they really are becoming a rotten club

I can remember Canterbury fans from the old days i.e 60s and 70s. They were good people like fans of Wests, Balmain and Newtown at the same time. The demographic changes to that whole area out to Bankstown and beyond have led to the current situation where some of their fans behave atrociously. I have mates from the old days who only follow them on TV now because they feel uncomfortable at games.

 

[weststigerman]

They all say they want to turn the club around, which is only lip service if they are happy to be paid overs.

That goes for all of them right? Not just Doueihi?

 

[weststigers]

I can remember Canterbury fans from the old days i.e 60s and 70s. They were good people like fans of Wests, Balmain and Newtown at the same time. The demographic changes to that whole area out to Bankstown and beyond have led to the current situation where some of their fans behave atrociously. I have mates from the old days who only follow them on TV now because they feel uncomfortable at games.

60's and 70's was before my time, but it carried into the 80's and 90's where those areas were salt of the earth. Now...less so...and getting worse.

 

[weststigers]

So now the nrl have said the players will be fined $1500 each , yet the dogs fans can say and do what ever they like , and how f****** weak are the dogs management are for complaining, was it just a jesture for us flogging them , they really are becoming a rotten club

The players have a duty to not bring the game into disrepute.

The fans have no such contract.

Seems unfair, but you really want the NRL to start controlling what fans can and can't say and do at games?

 

[weststigers]

You are right, however the decision not to register him could have some legal repercussions, it's not like he killed the bloke. I would argue some of the shit players have done around DV, sexual assault etc... and been allowed to come back is as bad or worse than what this guy did.

Listen carefully...you've been down this road on a number of posts. What you're saying is not correct. Look into restraint of trade. There is no legal avenue to prosecute this if the NRL refuses to register his contract. Zero. None.

 

[innsaneink]

Tyrone May's suspension was due to questioning the integrity of the match officials during Hull KR's win over Salford Red Devils. He was initially shown a yellow card for dissent and later handed a Grade D charge, resulting in 12 penalty points on his personal total. With his points tally reaching 13, May received a two-match ban, which means he'll miss Hull KR's games against Wigan Warriors and Castleford.¹ ²Here's a breakdown of the incident:- Charge: Questioning the Integrity of a Match Official- Grade: D- Penalty Points: 12- Total Points: 13- Sanction: 2-match suspensionMay's suspension is a significant talking point, especially given his team's dominant 74-12 win over Salford, where the score line seemingly contradicts the reason for his suspension.

Won by 60 and still not happy.
Sounds like Naden