Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Nothing was forced on him. I just absolutely disagree with this narrative that we took this amazing player and made him crap. He never took his own game to the next level. He just hasn't got the personality to be a top footy player. He has zero vision for what's happening in a match. Struggles to build connections with halves partners. He is just fully absorbed in his own game/performance while trying not to make mistakes.
Agree to disagree.

Its like taking an IT system administrator and moving them to a building site as scaffolder, then saying they struggled to take their role to the next level... Ofcourse they are going to be worried about mistakes, they aren't comfortable doing what they are!!
 
That’s really no better than we have now

didnt he sign for one of the qld teams ??
Have you actually seen Ethan Roberts play ?
And Just FYI
I think the bench will be;
Hayward/Hope/Latu/AD
Sione Fainu/Pole/ prop signing
Seyfarth/hunt/ which ever loser of the line above
Geyer/Roberts/Sukkar .
How anyone is saying that’s worse than this year has rocks in their heads . That’s infinitely better .
Ethan Roberts is a gun . Plays like the Butcher brothers , with a bit of Angus Chricton . He could very well be turned into a middle and be that prop .
There’s way more depth next year . KPP and Makasini will push out players like Seyfarth , Toa , Sukkar , Murray etc.
the team is way better next year even if you just simply go like for from squad players 25 and beyond . Passengers like Tumeth , Feledy and Matamua . Are now replaced by guys who can and will and have played first grade and made an impact . Roberts would have played for the chooks already if not for signing with us .
 
Why are you swearing at me?
I made a simple comment not directed at you.
You have shoehorned yourself in to try and have a crack.
Dhead alright.
Ooh trying to take the moral high ground. That’s a new one for you.

Gather around everybody. Look - Tucker is now the victim!

Why have you got an issue with a reporter calling it how it is? That’s you to a T.

I actually think it’s eating you up inside that you haven’t sided with him. And you’re getting more pissed off as you read this.

Mmmmm……. It really is isn’t it? Mmmmmm……
 
Yep. Daily Telegraph reporting he’s been dragged into it. He was on the golf weekend. His name must have been in communications between Smith and the drug dealer.
Nope. Limited details obviously as it's before the court.

His mobile was in the dealers phone.

Lets be careful here.
 
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Ooh trying to take the moral high ground. That’s a new one for you.

Gather around everybody. Look - Tucker is now the victim!

Why have you got an issue with a reporter calling it how it is? That’s you to a T.

I actually think it’s eating you up inside that you haven’t sided with him. And you’re getting more pissed off as you read this.

Mmmmm……. It really is isn’t it? Mmmmmm……
You’re the only person I have seen side with the journo. Des had no obligation to answer the question. He made his point that retention wasn’t discussed on that platform. When the journo kept pressing, he was clearly trying to instigate fireworks to generate a story. Instead, Des just dead batted him. And totally ignored the childish dig at there being more Warriors fans. If that’s Des’ last moment as an NRL coach, it’s a good way to go out.
 
Charlie Murray while not being overly big, strong or fast, he’s hard working, a good solid defender who makes nearly all of his tackles and generally has no issue getting back to marker or in the defensive line,
In his limited game time against the Cowboys he also demonstrated he can play as a 1st receiver ball playing style of 13 very comfortable and it actually created more time and soace for Luai and our left edge to function effectively.
In addition to this he can play 9 and his service from dummy half looks decent.
I’m not saying he is anything special, but he looks capable of playing roles that are required off the bench and do them effectively.
For someone outside of our top 30 I think he’s doing well, he will get an opportunity to do a full pre season with us in the lead up to 2026 and has scope to improve quite a bit because of it.
You would like to think Heath Mason being named at 14 could spend some time at 9 giving Api a rest and he offers great utility value to cover for plenty of other positions if required.
He is still only 20 years old, he will also not be considered as part of our best 17 for 2026 at the moment, but he’s known as an extremely hard worker who I’m certain will relish the challenge of improving himself to at least put himself in contention for our top 17 and I think he will relish the opportunity to impress in likely playing positions such as 9 that he has not played previously.
Sukkar is still quite young at age 21, he will have benefited from his NRL experience this seaon and while he has not set the world on fire, he has good size and mobility for a young lad and I am seeing stronger ball carries and steady all round improvement from him. Like the other two he probably will not be considered part of our initial top 17 for 2026, but he now has a good taste of NRL, so it’s up to him to have a strong off season and improve enough to at least put himself in contention.
Royce Hunt is Royce Hunt, he will give us a strong 20mins and it’s up our other 2 bench middles to provide more minutes.
I can’t see us beating the Raiders this weekend, but I can’t be blaming our bench, they are not asking to each play very minimal game time.
Murray is a reserve grader, just like Sukkar. Neither have any kind of flair in attack.

The NRL is too competitive to carry these guys in first grade as we saw on the weekend.
 
You’re the only person I have seen side with the journo. Des had no obligation to answer the question. He made his point that retention wasn’t discussed on that platform. When the journo kept pressing, he was clearly trying to instigate fireworks to generate a story. Instead, Des just dead batted him. And totally ignored the childish dig at there being more Warriors fans. If that’s Des’ last moment as an NRL coach, it’s a good way to go out.
I think the journo works for the Gold Coast bulletin , and is a titans fan . So he used a question about Fifita to vent his frustrations at Des , for the disarray the club is in .
For me it was pretty disingenuous to even ask the Fifita question in the first place . He clearly was looking to route the conversation to giving the club and Des a spray .
To be fair the journos have Mple outlets through social media , old media , new media like podcasts to go all in on the club.
That clearly wasn’t the forum to talk about the overall state of the club , especially disguised as a recruitment and retention question about a player , who most fans and clubs would be happy to show the door with the amount of money he’s on .
 
Have you actually seen Ethan Roberts play ?
And Just FYI
I think the bench will be;
Hayward/Hope/Latu/AD
Sione Fainu/Pole/ prop signing
Seyfarth/hunt/ which ever loser of the line above
Geyer/Roberts/Sukkar .
How anyone is saying that’s worse than this year has rocks in their heads . That’s infinitely better .
Ethan Roberts is a gun . Plays like the Butcher brothers , with a bit of Angus Chricton . He could very well be turned into a middle and be that prop .
There’s way more depth next year . KPP and Makasini will push out players like Seyfarth , Toa , Sukkar , Murray etc.
the team is way better next year even if you just simply go like for from squad players 25 and beyond . Passengers like Tumeth , Feledy and Matamua . Are now replaced by guys who can and will and have played first grade and made an impact . Roberts would have played for the chooks already if not for signing with us .


I am really looking forward to the two young forwards getting a run in the back half of 26 then we will really have pressure for bench spots the squad is building
 
You’re the only person I have seen side with the journo. Des had no obligation to answer the question. He made his point that retention wasn’t discussed on that platform. When the journo kept pressing, he was clearly trying to instigate fireworks to generate a story. Instead, Des just dead batted him. And totally ignored the childish dig at there being more Warriors fans. If that’s Des’ last moment as an NRL coach, it’s a good way to go out.
The fact Des got canned vindicates the journo. His job isn’t to make friends. It’s to ask questions people want to know the answers to. Great journalism. You and Tucker probably sided with Gould when he got grilled by Chammas - which was outstanding. Mmmm it really was.
 
Charlie Murray while not being overly big, strong or fast, he’s hard working, a good solid defender who makes nearly all of his tackles and generally has no issue getting back to marker or in the defensive line,
In his limited game time against the Cowboys he also demonstrated he can play as a 1st receiver ball playing style of 13 very comfortable and it actually created more time and soace for Luai and our left edge to function effectively.
In addition to this he can play 9 and his service from dummy half looks decent.
I’m not saying he is anything special, but he looks capable of playing roles that are required off the bench and do them effectively.
For someone outside of our top 30 I think he’s doing well, he will get an opportunity to do a full pre season with us in the lead up to 2026 and has scope to improve quite a bit because of it.
You would like to think Heath Mason being named at 14 could spend some time at 9 giving Api a rest and he offers great utility value to cover for plenty of other positions if required.
He is still only 20 years old, he will also not be considered as part of our best 17 for 2026 at the moment, but he’s known as an extremely hard worker who I’m certain will relish the challenge of improving himself to at least put himself in contention for our top 17 and I think he will relish the opportunity to impress in likely playing positions such as 9 that he has not played previously.
Sukkar is still quite young at age 21, he will have benefited from his NRL experience this seaon and while he has not set the world on fire, he has good size and mobility for a young lad and I am seeing stronger ball carries and steady all round improvement from him. Like the other two he probably will not be considered part of our initial top 17 for 2026, but he now has a good taste of NRL, so it’s up to him to have a strong off season and improve enough to at least put himself in contention.
Royce Hunt is Royce Hunt, he will give us a strong 20mins and it’s up our other 2 bench middles to provide more minutes.
I can’t see us beating the Raiders this weekend, but I can’t be blaming our bench, they are not asking to each play very minimal game time.
The fact most aren't seeing this is embarrassing. I agree with all of what you have said.

Murray carried the ball strong for his size the past 2 weeks and doesn't get driven back. He has shown a nice slight of hand with the ball creating some space for others, and makes his tackles. I seriously question those putting shit on him.

Most folks just ball-watch attacking players - post-contact metres, tackle and line break, peach of a pass, etc.

They're not watching the one-percenters which this bloke is the best at in the team, IMO. Your Josh King at Melbourne type of player. As an example, you watch the Braiden Burns try for NQ and he's the middle recognising Wests have no numbers on the short side and he's trying hard to be a body there along with Latu and Bula. That whole try came about because Tiny got beaten on his outside by Vaelia so he had to make a legs tackle and Vaelia got a qptb. Luai ended up as a marker and middles were compressed on that left side. Latu had to attempt a tackle on McLean in the middle of the ground who managed an offload, and then Clifford put Sukkar and Naden under pressure and a qptb. Basically ended up being a 4 v 2 against Skelton and Murray on the short side with a massive scramble from Latu ended up concussed on the play.

No criticism of Tiny getting beaten because he does wonderful things everyone sees. Tiny was also pulled in by Dearden for the Valemei try on Wests left in the second half. He was wrong-footed, but when Naden does it, he's the c*ntiest c*nt on the planet. Vaelia got the space he needed, pulled in Turuva and Valemei scored the try.

And @Vicious, you're 100% correct about Murray being a good link man as #13. He's the only genuine #13 in the whole squad, and has good service from dummy half when Koroisau is off for his 5 mins. Apparently he's been playing busted all season too, so its a credit to him to have made his NRL debut, and continue to be selected, albeit predominantly because the middle depth is in fact fairly bad. A few of us who have watched the lower grades all year have said it, and now that middles depth is being severely tested without Seyfarth and Bird.

Sukkar is same as Murray, defensively you can see he is thinking about the next play and he makes his tackles too. Just doesn't have the oomph in his carries. Sukkar is lacking power, Murray is lacking size and likely physically hampered.

Yes, there are better players with a bit more impact in their carries, but they didn't lose the game on the weekend. The same guys that nearly won the game for Wests were the ones who practically lost it!
 
The fact Des got canned vindicates the journo. His job isn’t to make friends. It’s to ask questions people want to know the answers to. Great journalism. You and Tucker probably sided with Gould when he got grilled by Chammas - which was outstanding. Mmmm it really was.
Technically Des hasn't been canned though. His contract had a clause that if they make the 8 during the time of his contract it will automatically trigger a 2 year extension. The Titans have just told him they're not offering an extension and he can see out the rest of his final year.
 
I am really looking forward to the two young forwards getting a run in the back half of 26 then we will really have pressure for bench spots the squad is building
Me too . I hope Phoenix Godinet has the dietician and strength and conditioning coach on speed dial , as a bug few months in the gym and eating right , could allow his body to match what is mind and skill want him to do . It will happen , and when it does , there’s another gun . Same thing for Tapau Moore both need to get lifting and eating . Both have potential to kill it .
There’s a few 20-21 year olds who will grow out of Flegg and populate the KOE team , like Matai , and really strengthen around Madden , to give that team a jump .
Next year I feel the Flegg and KOE teams will be strong , and if we could stick all our juniors into 1 SGball team we would dominate that comp. Because we can’t , then who knows . But hopefully with the kids doing well in Andrew John’s and Laurie Daley , they should bode well for the next gen .
 
There something fundamentally wrong with allowing a team to rest that many players when the results of each game effect more than them.

They're using their contracted players. What's the problem?

A lot of their top 30 don't begin training until January due to finals and international games, so they'e already behind the rest of the comp in prep, they cop the worst of Origin when it comes to player loads, so they're doing what they think they can to give themselves the best opportunity to win a premiership.

They're not in the comp to help other teams win a premiership.
 
Me too . I hope Phoenix Godinet has the dietician and strength and conditioning coach on speed dial , as a bug few months in the gym and eating right , could allow his body to match what is mind and skill want him to do . It will happen , and when it does , there’s another gun . Same thing for Tapau Moore both need to get lifting and eating . Both have potential to kill it .
There’s a few 20-21 year olds who will grow out of Flegg and populate the KOE team , like Matai , and really strengthen around Madden , to give that team a jump .
Next year I feel the Flegg and KOE teams will be strong , and if we could stick all our juniors into 1 SGball team we would dominate that comp. Because we can’t , then who knows . But hopefully with the kids doing well in Andrew John’s and Laurie Daley , they should bode well for the next gen .

They're 19 year olds. Still 2 seasons away from being a genuine NRL player. But this is Wests Tigers, they'll rush them in next season.
 
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