Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Vicious said:
1.25 for Luai
1 million from 2027 onwards for Bula
450k for Turuva
Total is 2.7 million
The salary cap becomes 12 million I believe in 2027, so those 3 players alone will be taking up almost 25% of our salary cap.
All 3 are good solid players, but they do not have the quality to be taking up almost 25% of our salary cap and allowing us to build a good enough team around them to challenge for a premiership.
So we can continue with mediocrity or do something about it.
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Dumb question, why are we just grabbing these 3 players together?

I could point to Api on 700k? Luai/Bula (IMHO 100% worth it). But that's 3m in our spine.

Or Bird/Hunt who have been fizzers.


IMHO, Turuva, Luai and Bula take the field. They would take the field in almost every team in the comp (Storm, maybe not. Every other team, yes).

Is Luai 1.25 Million? or 1 million or 900k value. I don't care because he is on the field applying that value for us. Unlike Sullivan who is 50k more then Turuva, playing against us*!

I really don't mind us overspending on a player as long as that player is delivering us value and helping the team execute our gameplan! You see in the Bulldogs how Galvin is there for Unders, but doesn't fit their gameplan and makes things worse.

1-13, don't care if they are overpaid a little. Get good talent that absolutely kicks.

*I know he has shirked 100k and we have some deal where we pay him 250k to play for souths... TLDR it sucks.
 
ShanghaiCharlie said:
Turuva is in the argument for best winger Tigers have ever had along with Richards and Taniela and at good value
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All credit to Turuva.

No idea why people are debating paying 450k for a winger. He is worth it and brings the value.

That said:
How good are these two.

Love Taniela Tukali, he was AMAZING to watch and just insane. But he was like a bunch of wingers, Merritt, Brett Morris, etc. Gets ball, runs scores try.

Pat Richards, now he was different. He was like a 5/8 playing winger.
Jason Taylor was totally foolish in punting Richards. Richards=finals. Richards means your default spine teams get rattled by someone doing something very different and it working.

Turuva is far more standard then the above. Still a class act and once we get more ball to him, I have zero doubt he will be crossing the line more!
 
Vicious said:
I know this is realistically no chance of happening, but I think it’s a valid question to ask would Jonah Pezet at 7 and Latu Fainu at 6 be a better halves pairing than Latu and Luai ?
I believe it would certainly be a more balanced better halves pairing and would have the benefit of a natural, confident 7 with a good kicking game, which would free up Latu to do what he does best, running the ball and challenging the opposition similar to how Ethan Strange plays for the Raiders.
Not only would it be a better long term halves pairing, it would also save us money to spend on upgrading other positions as we could surely sign Pezet for 1 million dollars per season if not slightly less ?
As I say it will not happen while Benji is our coach as he will want to show loyalty to Luai, but if we were serious about becoming the best team possible, we would at least consider it.
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It is just as valid a question as whether Sterling and Kenny would be a better halves pairing than Latu/Luai/Doueihi.... just a bullshit hypothetical not worth the time you put into the post!

Get a hobby FFS!!

Footy isn't your strength!
 
crazycat said:
Dumb question, why are we just grabbing these 3 players together?

I could point to Api on 700k? Luai/Bula (IMHO 100% worth it). But that's 3m in our spine.

Or Bird/Hunt who have been fizzers.


IMHO, Turuva, Luai and Bula take the field. They would take the field in almost every team in the comp (Storm, maybe not. Every other team, yes).

Is Luai 1.25 Million? or 1 million or 900k value. I don't care because he is on the field applying that value for us. Unlike Sullivan who is 50k more then Turuva, playing against us*!

I really don't mind us overspending on a player as long as that player is delivering us value and helping the team execute our gameplan! You see in the Bulldogs how Galvin is there for Unders, but doesn't fit their gameplan and makes things worse.

1-13, don't care if they are overpaid a little. Get good talent that absolutely kicks.

*I know he has shirked 100k and we have some deal where we pay him 250k to play for souths... TLDR it sucks.
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You nailed him!

The pure volume of his inane hypothetical posts is staggering & a massive reason why the forum content has declined!
 
crazycat said:
Dumb question, why are we just grabbing these 3 players together?

I could point to Api on 700k? Luai/Bula (IMHO 100% worth it). But that's 3m in our spine.

Or Bird/Hunt who have been fizzers.


IMHO, Turuva, Luai and Bula take the field. They would take the field in almost every team in the comp (Storm, maybe not. Every other team, yes).

Is Luai 1.25 Million? or 1 million or 900k value. I don't care because he is on the field applying that value for us. Unlike Sullivan who is 50k more then Turuva, playing against us*!

I really don't mind us overspending on a player as long as that player is delivering us value and helping the team execute our gameplan! You see in the Bulldogs how Galvin is there for Unders, but doesn't fit their gameplan and makes things worse.

1-13, don't care if they are overpaid a little. Get good talent that absolutely kicks.

*I know he has shirked 100k and we have some deal where we pay him 250k to play for souths... TLDR it sucks.
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It’s already fact that we are hoping to offload as much of Bud Sullivan’s contract as possible and it’s been stated we are trying offload Jack Bird and potentially Royce Hunt.
So we are hoping Souths come to the party in regards to Bud Sullivan and I’m assuming the only possible chance of offloading either Jack Bird or Royce Hunt for their full contract values would possibly be to a UK Super League club.
Realistically we cannot afford to offload Hunt unless we manage to replace him with someone better.
I assume our current t pause on any more recruitment for 2026 is pending on at least 2 of the above players being moved on.
Without adding two more quality players I cannot see how our current roster as it stands for 2026 is top 8 quality.
Plenty of our fans disagree and believe we have a top 8 quality roster as it stands for 2026, time will tell.
 
Snidest 0 said:
It is just as valid a question as whether Sterling and Kenny would be a better halves pairing than Latu/Luai/Doueihi.... just a bullshit hypothetical not worth the time you put into the post!

Get a hobby FFS!!

Footy isn't your strength!
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It’s certainly not yours when you believe all we need to do is leave Doueihi out of our top 17 and we win the competition.
We are overpaying slightly above average players and it’s preventing us from having any cap space to create a genuine top 8 roster.
If this season didn’t prove it to you, next season will again highlight it.
 
tigerballs said:
This would have to be the most ridiculous comment you have ever made. What does that even mean? What do you call 7 tries in 2 games?
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We have 2 better wingers than him apparently.
It’s really surprising how we miss the top 8 with the team full of superstars that we have ?
According to a large part of our supporter base, all we need is two high quality middles and we become the complete rugby league team that should be winning the premiership.
There are no high quality middles available for 2026 and we cannot afford to make a competitive offer to try and sign the ones currently available for 2027 unless we offload some of our other highly paid players. So we are banging our heads against a brick wall unless willing to make some tough and ruthless decisions in regards to recruitment and retention.
 
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tigerballs said:
This would have to be the most ridiculous comment you have ever made. What does that even mean? What do you call 7 tries in 2 games?
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Think he and Coates make team of the year.
Marks had an amazing year, definitely been one of the best players to watch.
Crazy how involved he has been in each game.

Few mistakes no doubt but he's been red hot this year. Top try scorer too.
 
tigerballs said:
This would have to be the most ridiculous comment you have ever made. What does that even mean? What do you call 7 tries in 2 games?
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Well my friend, the sizzle refers to the excitement while the steak refers to the substance. What do you call Keith Lulia scoring 4 try’s in one game for us? Now Marky is obviously a better prospect, but having a couple good games where you score a bag full isn’t automatic proof that you are a marquee player.
 
Vicious said:
It’s certainly not yours when you believe all we need to do is leave Doueihi out of our top 17 and we win the competition.
We are overpaying slightly above average players and it’s preventing us from having any cap space to create a genuine top 8 roster.
If this season didn’t prove it to you, next season will again highlight it.
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Let me explain why you are a forum hack and not in any recruitment position with any NRL club.
None of the top clubs buy, or pay overs for, elite players. They identify young talent and bring them through. When did Penrith, Storm, Broncos, Raiders buy a star?
Here's an incomplete list of NRL players 21 or under: Latu Fainu, Sam Fainu, Isaya Katoa, Ethan Strange, Couchman Twins, Paul Alamoti, Ethan Sanders, Demitric Vaimauga, Fletcher Sharpe, Robert Toia, Owen Pattie, Tanner Stowers-Smith, Blake Steep, Casy McClean.
A few of those are standouts in teams playing finals footy and on very little money.
Smart recruitment isn't about outspending other teams, it's about identifying young talent.
It's started with the Fainus, Bula, Skelton, hopefully Makasini, the Mays. Leave it to the experts.
 
Dr_Ice said:
And Tito is also a handy backup fullback as well if required
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Correct and that cannot be questioned.
What can be questioned is do our current 1-5 have enough star factor to win a premiership?
If the answer is no, changes would ideally need to be made when a player, or players with genuine star quality become available wouldn’t they ?
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Well my friend, the sizzle refers to the excitement while the steak refers to the substance. What do you call Keith Lulia scoring 4 try’s in one game for us? Now Marky is obviously a better prospect, but having a couple good games where you score a bag full isn’t automatic proof that you are a marquee player.
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Have you seen him play or are you getting your info from Souths fans? The bloke is incredible.
And it's a stupid correlation you make, using cliched sales speak to describe a footballer. How could he be exciting without any substance? Come on man, do better.
 
tigerballs said:
Let me explain why you are a forum hack and not in any recruitment position with any NRL club.
None of the top clubs buy, or pay overs for, elite players. They identify young talent and bring them through. When did Penrith, Storm, Broncos, Raiders buy a star?
Here's an incomplete list of NRL players 21 or under: Latu Fainu, Sam Fainu, Isaya Katoa, Ethan Strange, Couchman Twins, Paul Alamoti, Ethan Sanders, Demitric Vaimauga, Fletcher Sharpe, Robert Toia, Owen Pattie, Tanner Stowers-Smith, Blake Steep, Casy McClean.
A few of those are standouts in teams playing finals footy and on very little money.
Smart recruitment isn't about outspending other teams, it's about identifying young talent.
It's started with the Fainus, Bula, Skelton, hopefully Makasini, the Mays. Leave it to the experts.
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Let me explain to you.
As of 2027 we will have 12 million dollars to soend on our salary cap just like every other NRL club.
As of November 1 this year which is fast approaching, we have the opportunity to recruit for 2027.
If we continue to choose to spend our salary cap on players who are not good enough to get us into the top 8, let alone win a premiership, then we are obviously overpaying a certain element of our players that then prevent us from having the available cap space to pay the right calibre of players to get us into the top 8 or win a premiership.
 
Vicious said:
Correct and that cannot be questioned.
What can be questioned is do our current 1-5 have enough star factor to win a premiership?
If the answer is no, changes would ideally need to be made when a player, or players with genuine star quality become available wouldn’t they ?
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Yes, always good to add quality, but your previous suggestion of offering $1m for unproven fullbacks in Marky Mark or Purdue is bordering on ridiculous
 
Vicious said:
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t me explain to you.
As of 2027 we will have 12 million dollars to soend on our salary cap just like every other NRL club.
As of November 1 this year which is fast approaching, we have the opportunity to recruit for 2027.
If we continue to choose to spend our salary cap on players who are not good enough to get us into the top 8, let alone win a premiership, than we are obviously overpaying a certain element of our players that then prevent us from having the available cap space to pay the right calibre of players to get us into the top 8 or win us a premiership.
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Apologies for being a bit harsh but building a team doesn't come from signing big names, it comes from finding the next big names. Warriors have more good young forwards coming through than anyone but thought they'd rush things and buy JFH. Didn't quite work out. Gold Coast bought 2 x million dollar forwards from the Storm and Broncos. How are they going? How do you think Newcastle will go with Dylan Brown?
 
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