HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

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The Chad said:
Everyone who posts is trying to get a reaction.

Every reaction so far has been to be mildly abusive (amusing at times).

What is interesting is that people would rather resort to insults than ponder the possibility that there might be a different option or opinion. I've not said anyone is wrong.

I could very well be.

But maybe HBG isn't inserting their own people? Maybe Richo did do something dodgy?

What I know is that....I don't know for sure. I could guess that close to 100% of you on here don't know for sure either.

But you'll convince yourself you do & abuse anyone that thinks differently.
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What about the 4 Directors ?

Richo resigned …he wasn’t removed for doing anything “dodgy”
 
jirskyr said:
It's more likely that if the NRL was to do something they could be subject to court action from HBG.

NRL could definitely sell or revoke the licence under some interpretation, again subject to legal intervention, and that doesn't necessarily help the fans.

People have to remember that soft power can be used here to coerce, it doesn't have tob e brute force dumping or expelling people. That brute force nonsense is what keeps getting HBG into trouble.
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Even with coercion or threat of not renewing license, what would you want NRL to do?

I value your opinion hence why I'm asking you what does the governance structure look like in an ideal scenario?
 
crazycat said:
Well the focus is on them now.

The NRL can de-license the Wests Tigers. That would be a big enough threat to get HBG to pull out.
If us fans blame HBG, they won't have a leg to stand on.

Plus people will be starting to make anonymous tips to regulatory authorities...
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On what grounds can they take away their license ? I know they exist …but has HBG gone down that road with their actions ?
 
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Tom Shines said:
Here is a question which I haven’t seen any of the HBG aligned people answer …

Do you agree that based on the reasons provided by HBG to remove the independent board, this act was justified. considering there was improved performance from the club both on and off the pitch in 2025 ?
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Honest answer is- I don't know.

I know that many people on here questioned Richo's son's link prior to the investigation. That seems to be brushed under the carpet for now.

It certainly seemed like the club was turning around. I might be tempted to argue that might have happened regardless of the board- it was more to do with Benji & the playing group. But it would be understandable that the board helped to bring that together.

I think that the reasons HBG have given have been dismissed out of hand. And that seems wrong. If what they are saying is true, even in a perceived way, then they have a valid point. I would assume that the board members were consulted on this at SOME point prior to the dismissal.

But that is an assumption. I simply don't know.
 
teddy23 said:
We’re getting louder.

We need to keep it going….. PVL has reached out to all 4 independent board members that were sacked investigating the situation.

Lies about the HBG not being notified about decisions will be exploited, given this was the main reason they were sacked it’ll open a can of worms.

I have absolutely no doubt that Richo will get a call soon and most likely Lee as well getting their opinions on it all.

Both men believe the club aren’t operating with the best interest of the Wests Tigers along with the 4 independent directors, but that they’re more focussed on pushing this Wests agenda.

Lee also stated on radio a few days ago the HBG are in no shape to run the football club even claiming he was confronted by a HBG member stating “remember who runs this club” implying that the Wests do.

How can the NRL allow ownership of a club that ignores on/off field performance - it doesn’t make sense.

Everything Richo was holding onto in that press conference that he wanted to say, will be dished out to the NRL.

Combine that with the noise this march is getting with us fans.

I think the HBG are slowly turning into the walking dead.
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Does anybody else find it ironic that we now use Lee Hagipentalis as a reason against HBG?
 
The Chad said:
Everyone who posts is trying to get a reaction.

Every reaction so far has been to be mildly abusive (amusing at times).

What is interesting is that people would rather resort to insults than ponder the possibility that there might be a different option or opinion. I've not said anyone is wrong.

I could very well be.

But maybe HBG isn't inserting their own people? Maybe Richo did do something dodgy?

What I know is that....I don't know for sure. I could guess that close to 100% of you on here don't know for sure either.

But you'll convince yourself you do & abuse anyone that thinks differently.
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I haven't abused anyone.
 
crazycat said:
No.

Why? because I am hearing very poor reasoning for them doing what they did.

The "Orange" issue just isn't an issue and there was bugger all fan objection on it. I agree with them defending the colours, but not a sackable offense.

The other reason "not being informed of decisions" when you have 2x HBG reps on the board, why does it fall to the Independent directors?

Now if both HBG reps are sick/unable to attend... then that argument may make some sense. But from the BS reasons we are given, I can only conclude either Jealousy OR an unwillingness for Wests Ashfield to spend on Wests Campbelltown stadium*.


So if HBG come out and say "we told the board 6 times to keep HBG informed, they never did" I may change. If I hear HBG directors were NOT informed... I may change. I suspect we may hear "we couldn't afford Ctown stadium"... We have only heard BS.


Till we hear real and good reasons, HBG shouldn't appoint anyone.

*note I believe it's an Ashfield vs Ctown issue not a Magpies vs Balmain issue. Ofcourse it could be Ashfield Magpies over everyone else... i.e. no one under 70 remembers what they are aiming for.
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Now, take your answer & think about this-

Where are you hearing this?

HBG have 1st hand accounts. They are there.

You have 3rd & 4th hand accounts. We hear it from the media.

And HBG are definitely wrong?
 
Jolls said:
I agree with you that Shaun and Benji are our best option currently.

I don't necessarily agree that HBG needs to go, although that would be a great outcome. What we need is for the debenture system to go so that the HBG board can be elected by the full membership.

The crux of this problem is about governance and representation.

While this is going on it is unhelpful for HBG (or other players in support of HBG) are destabilisng the joint through leaks, misinformation and silence on the matter.

Paton, on behalf of HBG, spoke about leadership and how they fully support Benji (and Richo at the time) yet they have not backed this up at all. They are the owners and have a responsibility to prevent this from occuring - and they aren't.

So I guess that we are somewhat in ageeance.
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The only problem is that it wouldn't be WT members voting it would be Wests Ashfield members. You would have to get a massive push for WT members to also become members of Wests Ashfield and with the sentiment on here i can't see that happening any time soon.
 
The Chad said:
100% agree with all that.

Here's the thing. We talk about revisionist history in relation to the Magpies side of things on here a lot.

Recently- what has Balmain offered the JV? What have Wests offered the JV?

If I have to make a point, it's this- right NOW, the Wests Magpies/Ashfield/HBG side of things are doing most of the heavy lifting. It may not always be that way, there might even be agenda's on that side of the JV...that isn't the point.

If I was putting in 90% of the work into anything....and I wasn't happy with how the 'independent' side of the board were acting...feeling overlooked, or not consulted or whatever....chances are, I'd probably feel a little more entitled to swing it in my favour too.

HBG might be Darth Vader's cousin's best idea. Don't know.

But, them deciding that they would rather it more 'their way' at the moment isn't completely misunderstandable.

Here we are, kicking off about the money side of the JV doing things they want. The way I see it, they kind of have some right to do so.

Now, before I get bombarded with HBG apologist comments- I want to also point out, HBG have NOT said they want to move away from an independent board or CEO.

My point about the reaction on here being lead by hysteria seems to be overlooked.

WHAT IF....HBG hire 4 new independent board members & a CEO that isn't a stooge?

Shouldn't they get the chance to do that?

I know...they have history...their intent is obvious...I don't know what I'm talking about.

Rage on.
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Wests Ashfield are not just doing 90% they are doing the lot and i have to add aren't doing it effectively because of this fascination of re incarnating the Magpies, they would be better served being head down bum up.
Every man and their dog can see all thats getting achieved is sweet FA, thats on both sides mind you.

If they want to keep hold of this Magpies fantasy they are doing their doh, the NRL recognize how strong a Tigers moniker is. But in saying that another franchise could easily pick it up they all need to get heads out of arses and realise this for the betterment of the club stop holding it back in the not too glorious past.
 
The Chad said:
Honest answer is- I don't know.

I know that many people on here questioned Richo's son's link prior to the investigation. That seems to be brushed under the carpet for now.

It certainly seemed like the club was turning around. I might be tempted to argue that might have happened regardless of the board- it was more to do with Benji & the playing group. But it would be understandable that the board helped to bring that together.

I think that the reasons HBG have given have been dismissed out of hand. And that seems wrong. If what they are saying is true, even in a perceived way, then they have a valid point. I would assume that the board members were consulted on this at SOME point prior to the dismissal.

But that is an assumption. I simply don't know.
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Well thankyou for at least attempting to provide an answer … I have asked if about 4 other times and was ignored …


There have been considerable improvements outside the playing group in relation to things like memberships and crowds, sponsorships and other financials leading to the first profits for the club in several years …that is worth a lot in my book

We also had the 2 stadium deals of course .

The reasons provided to date by HBG to excuse their actions seem dusty …these are 4 previously unaffiliated people with experience as Directors … I would be surprised if all 4 are unaware of their obligations ….

A couple have completely denied publicly the initial allegations which I believe HBG has since removed from their site ..which doesn’t bode well for their side of the argument …these are things that are not hearsay but can actually be documented one way of the other …who attended board meetings and how did they vote…

Out of interest .,,What will you do if the Independents are in the right ?
 
The Chad said:
Don't know. Honestly.

Richo did resign- absolutely.

He's also under investigation (reportedly).

I'm not saying Richo is dodgy. Only that it cannot be discounted as fiction.
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In this day and age …I don’t put a lot of faith in allegations …particularly when there is a possible benefit for one of the parties
 
teddy23 said:
2 Chairmans, 2 CEO’s and 6 board members being sacked within the last 18 months.

7 coaches sacked in the last 12 years.

Lee is a small sample to a bigger message.

Anyone who defends the HBG needs to do some research.
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How many of them brought success to Wests Tigers?
 
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