Jahream Bula #269

Bula is not close to the value bracket of the top players in that 900k range. For context, Harry Grant and Crichton are reportedly on about $850k through to the end of 2027. Burton, Carrigan and Liam Martin are around $750k through to the end of 2027.

It is also getting harder to sell the “paying for potential” argument. This is his fourth season and he has not developed enough to justify that sort of number. Maybe he improves. Maybe he doesn’t. But if we pay him big money we have to accept that this version of Bula might be the one we are locking in.

That said, if the club rates him now at around $800k (fair), but truly believes in him that he can go to another level, and the deal only blows out by another $100k then just pay it.
100k won't cause serious cap issues, and it is worth it if only to keep the team settled and not let this become a season-impacting distraction.

Look, Bula is not a star right now. He is probably a 3 out of 5. If there is a younger option in the wings who is cheaper now but the club believes has a higher ceiling and the cap space saved helps land a genuine top player elsewhere, then it is prudent for the club to weigh that up and arguably reckless not to.
 
TheEnz said:
I think this could be the issue with the Bula deal, Moses is probably expecting us to pay desperate team money and we are paying what we think he is worth to a team that is at the top of the ladder 😎
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On the money in this scenario, Moses is Moses, he always seems to have the right player to try and extort a ridiculous asking price using teams that are desperate, hence upward pressure on value.

Can't stand the cretin, spitting cobra hiding in the grass manipulating.
 
if and a big if we can somehow get Manu for 2027
then you let Bula walk in 2027 to say the dogs.

realistically
i do think the club will try and sign Sloane from dragons if Bula does leave.
The club has apparently shown some interest, not sure why.
 
Tiger Stripes said:
The difference in after tax dollars can't be that much to go to another club on a lower trajectory. Or players/coaches that don't swear?
But as I have said before, WT have set the dollar offer and time frame and are sticking to it. And I applaud their stance. Moses is being Moses----time for Bula to decide.
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There are players/coaches in the NRL that don't swear?
 
bigsiro said:
Bula is not close to the value bracket of the top players in that 900k range. For context, Harry Grant and Crichton are reportedly on about $850k through to the end of 2027. Burton, Carrigan and Liam Martin are around $750k through to the end of 2027.

It is also getting harder to sell the “paying for potential” argument. This is his fourth season and he has not developed enough to justify that sort of number. Maybe he improves. Maybe he doesn’t. But if we pay him big money we have to accept that this version of Bula might be the one we are locking in.

That said, if the club rates him now at around $800k (fair), but truly believes in him that he can go to another level, and the deal only blows out by another $100k then just pay it.
100k won't cause serious cap issues, and it is worth it if only to keep the team settled and not let this become a season-impacting distraction.

Look, Bula is not a star right now. He is probably a 3 out of 5. If there is a younger option in the wings who is cheaper now but the club believes has a higher ceiling and the cap space saved helps land a genuine top player elsewhere, then it is prudent for the club to weigh that up and arguably reckless not to.
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He lacks development because he was off playing basketball in two years time he will be an absolute weapon the question is do you pay overs to develop him or do you pay fair value?
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
if and a big if we can somehow get Manu for 2027
then you let Bula walk in 2027 to say the dogs.

realistically
i do think the club will try and sign Sloane from dragons if Bula does leave.
The club has apparently shown some interest, not sure why.
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Sloane imo is a player waiting for the right coach to get the best from him, similar to KPP.
 
Rock Hopper Steve said:
Too long out of NRL and 30yo this June, what kind of ridiculous money will he expect, don't like it, gives me nervous shivers like dragons fans are feeling with Gutho's 2nd year plummet at fullback.
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The difference RHS is that Manu is a naturally gifted, classy and skillful player, whereas Gutho is a high intensity all effort player. I can see Manu at the top of his game for 2 or 3 years, whereas Gutho is cooked.
 
Gonna be honest, I really don't buy the whole "Moses wants to screw over the Tigers" thing everyone on here cries about

His goal is to get his players (and himself) the most money possible - and the Tigers have been such a weak club, he's been able to use us to do so

It's not a personal thing against the Tigers. He's also done it to Manly with Seibold and half their players on ridiculous money.

With Benji running the show, winning games and a united playing group etc it will naturally become much less of an issue in the future.
 
JC99 said:
Gonna be honest, I really don't buy the whole "Moses wants to screw over the Tigers" thing everyone on here cries about

His goal is to get his players (and himself) the most money possible - and the Tigers have been such a weak club, he's been able to use us to do so

It's not a personal thing against the Tigers. He's also done it to Manly with Seibold and half their players on ridiculous money.

With Benji running the show, winning games and a united playing group etc it will naturally become much less of an issue in the future.
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Benji and Isaac have never liked each other. It’s very much personal between them
 
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