Fair
But a good 6 generally has a good 7 inside of him.
Luai hasnt played a single game here along side a true #7
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But a good 6 generally has a good 7 inside of him.
Luai hasnt played a single game here along side a true #7
I’m not laying the blame squarely on AD.
But I think you’ll find I’ve been beating the Madden drum since the trials and the evidence is piling up.
wstigers11
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Yeah early ball goes a long way
He got the memo for the Knights game but Brisbane countered that with a more aggressive defense and the ref got tired of calling six agains.
Should of been a sin bin in H1.
Tom Shines
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You haven’t been the only one who wants Madden at 7 ..plenty have including myself after the Knights game …AD is not a good halves partner for Luai …but there are deficiencies in Luai’s game too … he plays very sideways and that is something that needs to be addressed regardless of who he plays with
Tom Shines
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Yeah, it’s similar to Api, he’s not a conventional footy player. Lucky we have some talented kids and a coach who played his own way as well.
It’ll be fun to watch them develop together.
Funnel Webb
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They get paid on average $450k a year to win games. They should be content with whatever will get them the results on the field. They seem to do better with Madden on the field. But maybe it could all work out and Luai could be a $1.2 million back seat five-eighth with Madden winning us games over the 80 minutes. Only problem is if Madden keeps playing like how he has we might not have enough money for the controlling half we've always needed. But for now Doueihi and Madden are clearly working.
Tom Shines
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Api is playing very well though …
I’m sure he will go wih Madden this week ..I think that it will straighten things up… let’s hope it unlocks Luai as you suggest …because we need him
That’s a big part of it.
Jocks kicking game was also strangling sides and creating more fatigue and more attacking opportunities.
I hope you’re right.
Chunk
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We spent 1.2M on him and he has so much infleunce over the team, we have to back him.
I reckon he'd be the first to say he hasn't played as well as he would of liked so it's far too early to ditch him.
He has pedigree & legacy so lets give him a chance
Jolls
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...and therein lies the problem. Two sideways halves in the team one wearing 6 and the other 7. Not too hard to figure out ... go back to the deep dive on it done in the pre-season - covers the issues we are having. Madden with AD or Luai will most likely work and AD and Luai can still work if we figure out how to overcome the up and in defence.
The system is working; but the better teams are able to get in the arm wrestle with us using the up and in defence. We need to be better at predicting and reacting. If we can predict how they are going to defend against our style we can plan for an attack that style.
This is not the time to change anything significantly - we are still early in the season and we are very much in a development phase. This probably isn't the time to experiment - but injuries will give us opportunities soon enough.
You would swear that we had been beaten by 50 on the weekend!
Funnel Webb
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Yeah maybe you're right, it's possible he could work with Madden. I just don't like Doueihi in the centres or giving him less game time coming off the bench as lock and having to give Twal less minutes.
Tom Shines
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I’m sure we both want the same thing ..👍
Unlike perhaps a few others around … i actually want to see Luai playing well and contributing to the team winning games on the field ..i know he is capable of it
Luai has won 7 out of his last 8 against the Raiders I believe, a team you can strip on the edges. 🤞
Yes every one forgets they had more class players than u think , really only missing the finger painting player and cardigan
Tom Shines
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Personally .. I am not one suggesting the sky is falling, or see the need for major changes … but I don’t see Luai as a sacred cow that is beyond/exempt from criticism… Im also not advocating his removal from the 6 either
Go to Madden by all means … Where do you want to play AD ? He is one of our better players and needs to be there somewhere…
I think most teams this year are going to come at them with this up and in lock down physical defence…you don’t need to be a super team though to pull it off…Parramatta did it to Canterbury yesterday … it’s worked against us twice now ..and I keep saying it’s a copycat league so expect to see more of it against us
Be good to be working on ways around it …. Inside passes to Bula might be a good start
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Agree with most of your comments but Luai still played poorly. Dropped a ball when we were on the their line. Kicked a ball dead and didn’t really offer much in attack.
In regards to Maka that started as Bula was injured and should of been taken off, he then takes a ball at the back doesn’t want to get hit do passes the ball to maka who then drop it. He losses his confidence then the next easy drop. But to be fair their fullback dropped what 3 or 4 bombs, we fail to take advantage.
The spi one was shocking and again as stated previously I hear nothing in the media in relation to that incident!
hank37w
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Good post, something for forum members to consider.
Re the rushing defense, Luai just needs time to sum it up. He’s a master of the little poke in behind, of if they rush him he can hit his 2RF short (ala Kikau)
The key is getting him quick pill.
