OFFICIAL Jarome Luai - #295

[Jolls]

Re the rushing defense, Luai just needs time to sum it up. He’s a master of the little poke in behind, of if they rush him he can hit his 2RF short (ala Kikau)

The key is getting him quick pill.

... or to create time and space by playing straight and digging into the line. We can also come back against the grain against a rushing defence applying inside pressure, something we also do poorly. Some of ADs drop off plays are also so telegraphed they may as well not do them.

The system works and we need to work on the system and also counter theirs.

A rushing defence on two sideways halves makes it difficult for us. If AD played a little straighter and dug into the line as a 7 Luai would probably have the time he needs and the same goes for Luai with AD running outside him in a running 6 role. I'm not ready to can the AD/Luai pairing - but they need to start producing or Madden will push one of them out with his simple game.

 

[EllisFan]

... or to create time and space by playing straight and digging into the line. We can also come back against the grain against a rushing defence applying inside pressure, something we also do poorly. Some of ADs drop off plays are also so telegraphed they may as well not do them.

The system works and we need to work on the system and also counter theirs.

A rushing defence on two sideways halves makes it difficult for us. If AD played a little straighter and dug into the line as a 7 Luai would probably have the time he needs and the same goes for Luai with AD running outside him in a running 6 role. I'm not ready to can the AD/Luai pairing - but they need to start producing or Madden will push one of them out with his simple game.

Another thing that Penrith would do was feign a hit up but have the forward play out the back to Chin, creating extra space. May can ball play so it wouldn’t surprise me if we’re working on that sort of thing this week. The rushing D can still cut it off but there’d be more space to exploit in behind them and on the flanks.

Won’t be surprised if he sticks with AD this week but if it’s still clunky on Thursday I think we need to go to plan B.

 

[stevied]

Unfortunately he did the same thing most of the time that Galvin was around last season.

You're probably right. I couldn't believe Luai took a back seat like he did!

 

[Year_of_the_Tiger]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet but Adel Hage and Bechara Junior (who are better judges than most of us) got stuck into this issue on You Tube WT last night. @Lestronge has the same view. It put to bed for me the pain of the loss and whether jock should even be mentioned ahead of AD and Laui.

 

[tig_prmz]

Re the rushing defense, Luai just needs time to sum it up. He’s a master of the little poke in behind, of if they rush him he can hit his 2RF short (ala Kikau)

The key is getting him quick pill.

A Very good rushing defense is hard to play for any half these last few years.

If a team like Dogs against Penrith. QLD in SOO last year plays like that,.it's impossible..

You can kick behind the line, but no half wants to take that risk anymore.

I liked what Parra did yesterday where they kept turning the ball back inside and played with a lot of depth. But, Dogs had an off day to say the least.

The on guy I would bet gets the better of the quick line speed is Cody Walker. He's the best half at reacting to defense instead of playing to structure.
Benji, Billy and Hayne were the other ones I can think of.

Luai is so badly out of form, I don't think even playing with Cleary helps him. He's literally got the Yips. He's too good a player to continue like that. I feel Benji will get him out of this. Luai keeps working hard, he's ALWAYS behind the ball. He's probably doing more Ks than anyone else during games.

 

[hank37w]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet but Adel Hage and Bechara Junior (who are better judges than most of us) got stuck into this issue on You Tube WT last night. @Lestronge has the same view. It put to bed for me the pain of the loss and whether jock should even be mentioned ahead of AD and Laui.

Seeing and hearing the comments of Adele Hage, even though he is a lower grade coach, and that of Rob Bechara Jr who appears to have done quite a bit of refereeing has opened up my eyes.

I am nowhere even close to being a student of the game and have mostly been from the school of thought that believed that it's a simple game, but listening to these guys and many others has opened my eyes over the years to how intricate the game can really be.

I listen in awe to how some of these people can pull a game apart and bring up things that I never saw or understood before, and most likely never will.

Over a period of many years this has basically brought about a new found respect for people that coach at the highest levels of the game and it has to be said that there are many knowledgeable people on this forum who are able to do the same.

Just goes to show that the game can be viewed and enjoyed in it's simplest form or it can also be treated as an intricate science, which ever way you look at it, Rugby League really is the greatest game of all.