Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Tired Tiger said:
I have been vocal about wanting Madden at 7 and AD moved but fully expect the same team to be named.

Benji is as stubborn as they come and his ego won't allow him to change the halves in the short term.

I do think he is trending in the right direction as a coach but he has had more than enough time to sort our best halves pairing and our 20m red zone attack which has been abysmal for years.

If he is the man manger they say he is, he needs to make the change and manage all egos involved. It was stupid to gaurentee AD the half back spot in the off season. All spot should be earnt.
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Our u not watching the games AD has been our best player , it’s working with ad at 1/2 and should stay that way untill it doesn’t work
 
bptiger 0 said:
Our u not watching the games AD has been our best player , it’s working with ad at 1/2 and should stay that way untill it doesn’t work
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Benji's a smart man, he won't be changing our halves.
I will say though that Jarome played the role of a 7 last night with AD the running 6.
I think having the numbers reversed on their jumpers the way it is takes the pressure off.
It's an interesting style Benji has them playing. Pure hard running in our own half and very much a Walker brothers style of attack inside the 20 with lots of offloads and second phase plays which really makes a defence lose focus.
Terrell's copped a lot of flak from those who just want him to run hard but his and Twal's offloads when the play looks dead and the defence are momentarily relaxed are gold.
When we do then attack with shape it's less predictable.
We look clunky to those with traditional ideas of what attack should be but it really is working.
Well done Benji.
 
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Oscar Martinez said:
Benji's a smart man, he won't be changing our halves.
I will say though that Jarome played the role of a 7 last night with AD the running 6.
I think having the numbers reversed on their jumpers the way it is takes the pressure off.
It's an interesting style Benji has them playing. Pure hard running in our own half and very much a Walker brothers style of attack inside the 20 with lots of offloads and second phase plays which really makes a defence lose focus.
Terrell's copped a lot of flak from those who just want him to run hard but his and Twal's offloads when the play looks dead and the defence are momentarily relaxed are gold.
When we do then attack with shape it's less predictable.
We look clunky to those with traditional ideas of what attack should be but it really is working.
Well done Benji.
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Interesting post.

Reminds me of when Benji played, the jersey number was a hot topic.

It was mentioned he loved the number #6 and would wear it when actually playing the 7... and when he had the 7 he always played like a 6, etc.

Your comment really reminiscent of those days.
 
Oscar Martinez said:
Benji's a smart man, he won't be changing our halves.
I will say though that Jarome played the role of a 7 last night with AD the running 6.
I think having the numbers reversed on their jumpers the way it is takes the pressure off.
It's an interesting style Benji has them playing. Pure hard running in our own half and very much a Walker brothers style of attack inside the 20 with lots of offloads and second phase plays which really makes a defence lose focus.
Terrell's copped a lot of flak from those who just want him to run hard but his and Twal's offloads when the play looks dead and the defence are momentarily relaxed are gold.
When we do then attack with shape it's less predictable.
We look clunky to those with traditional ideas of what attack should be but it really is working.
Well done Benji.
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I reckon Benji had a few words of wisdom to both Jerome and Jahream at halftime last night as they were both very average in the first half and were both noticeably sharper and much better with ball in hand in the second half.
If they keep producing what they did in the second half last night, no criticism would ever come their way.
 
We need to lock down our forward pack. Our forwards have been incredible to start the season, particularly defensively. Tackle efficiency isn’t everything but to start the year:

Terrell May - 98%
Api Koroisau - 91%
Fonua Pole - 92%
Samuela Fainu - 94%
KPP - 94%
Twal - 97%

Royce Hunt - 95%
Sione Fainu - 97%
Latu Fainu - 94%
Alex Seyfarth - 89%

Massive effort from everyone, except Seyfarth who really should be higher considering he’s coming on fresh at the end of the game against tired opposition. Will need to step up next week without KPP

Most of these guys were in the mid to high 80s last season so it’s a huge improvement!
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
so the Roosters method then
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Demps said:
Interesting post.

Reminds me of when Benji played, the jersey number was a hot topic.

It was mentioned he loved the number #6 and would wear it when actually playing the 7... and when he had the 7 he always played like a 6, etc.

Your comment really reminiscent of those days.
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Honestly I don’t understand the love affair with numbers , and “controlling halves” , “traditional halves”. It’s all bullshit , and a legacy of wrestle ball circa 2007-2020, because the only way to break teams down was through block play shape. there’s a reason Flanno Jr got rissoles from the dragons 7. Because block shape is fine , if it’s mixed with other attacking structures eg , second phase into an inside outside ball at the right/left upright , into quick play the ball then block shape .

But even then it’s usually set up through precedence in that half . Which is why halves play short to thier line running backrower early doors in matches . It’s not just about getting the tackle count up in the opposition half , but about creating monotony , and repetitious thinking in the defence . Until you don’t do it and your fullback sends his centre over untouched .
Really bad defences like the cowboys and knights , and your options are whatever the defence presents to you in the moment , because they don’t have any friggin idea who’s getting the ball .
All of that is to say , you don’t need to be a controlling 7 to understand game flow and getting to certain points in the field , working over certain players and leveraging past decisions into future ones.
You just need to understand gameplans , how to isolate players , and ultimately undermine defensive structures .
The biggest issue with block shape is if it doesn’t work . Then it really doesn’t work , and if you don’t have other ways to disrupt defensive patterns you’re screwed . Watch the dragons play and this is what I’m talking about . Under flanno they were aught to put the second phase away , and work towards block Shape . Everyone and their dog knew it was coming .
Our halves are doing what they’re supposed to do. Everyone has been brainwashed into thinking the only way to play half is the Cooper Cronk way . Even John’s didn’t play like that.
Anyways rant over .
 
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