LIVE GAME Round 7 vs. Panthers

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WestsEffTheRest said:
Stef does not want to leave Sydney. If he leaves it will be for another Sydney club.
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Is that inside info ?
And if so, what chance is he of staying ?
And PS let him know half the supporters on this forum can assure him the poor results are nothing to worry about, it’s just a matter of our current squad having more game together and with natural improvement we will be a top 8 force in no time.
 
Vicious said:
Is that inside info ?
And if so, what chance is he of staying ?
And PS let him know half the supporters on this forum can assure him the poor results are nothing to worry about, it’s just a matter of our current squad having more game together and with natural improvement we will be a top 8 force in no time.
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He's about to welcome his 2nd child & his partner wants to stay in Sydney.
 
Vicious said:
You know what they call doing the same thing over and over again and getting the same poor result ?
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That is my point - buying Lomax on big bucks to play out of position is a move me made with Mbye...

Lomax is not a fullback!!
 
Vicious said:
Gold Ciast will flog us, wait and see.
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??? This team is learning to compete , and stay close in games even when the run is against you . This weak against a team that is known for attack will be a litmus .
I just don’t get fans like you . Wrist cutting and negativity over losing a close one to the premiers , an away from home loss to an in form dolphins team , and a granted horrible display against the dragons which almost netted us a result if we had stuck our chances . 2 of which was fielding a clearly already in the last chance saloon Sullivan .
I don’t know what your watching but in losses last year , whilst the scoreboard may have been close , I never felt in most of those games , and rather most oppositions felt like they were in 3rd gear .
 
Lestronge said:
??? This team is learning to compete , and stay close in games even when the run is against you . This weak against a team that is known for attack will be a litmus .
I just don’t get fans like you . Wrist cutting and negativity over losing a close one to the premiers , an away from home loss to an in form dolphins team , and a granted horrible display against the dragons which almost netted us a result if we had stuck our chances . 2 of which was fielding a clearly already in the last chance saloon Sullivan .
I don’t know what your watching but in losses last year , whilst the scoreboard may have been close , I never felt in most of those games , and rather most oppositions felt like they were in 3rd gear .
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Over the past 5-10 games last season I could clearly see we were getting far less attacking impact from our edge back row and fullback in comparison to all other NRL clubs and stated as such.
Many on this forum replied criticising my point of view, advising the players I was mainly pointing the finger at in Bateman and Bula are two of our best players and they are not the problem with our poor attack.
Many pointed out it was our halves causing the problem and at the end of a long unsuccessful season they should be given a bit of slack.
So with this in mind I come bit this season with an open mind thinking maybe some of these comments defending these layers were correct.
Unfortunately I have seen very little change and nothing to show me that either of these players are worth their current price tag.
 
weststigerman said:
The Bula argument is a funny one.

If Bula is the 17th best fullback in the NRL (I disagree with this btw), then do we have another fullback at the club in the top 16?

If not, then why would we move him?
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To my opinion he’s in the top half fullbacks .
Bula - Turbo - Turbo
Bula-Teddy- teddy
Bula -Ponga- Ponga
Bula - CNK- Bula
Bula- Walsh -Walsh
Bula- Campbell- Bula
Bula -Drinkwater - drinkwater (but geez he is enigmatic. A poor man’s Benji re. Throwing caution to the wind)
Bula- Stewart- Bula
Bula - Kennedy - Bula
Bula - Papenhuyzen - Paps
Bula - Sloan - Bula
Bula - Gutho - gutho


Bula - Tracey - Bula
Bula - Edwards- Bula
Bula - Mitchell - Bula ( at fullback Lattrell is one of the best players in the comp at centre/ even 5/8 potentially)
Bula - Tab Fid - Tab Fid —- but it’s close
I have him right now at 9th in the comp . I think that’s a fair assessment . For a kid who hasn’t played 1 whole season yet
 
Vicious said:
Over the past 5-10 games last season I could clearly see we were getting far less attacking impact from our edge back row and fullback in comparison to all other NRL clubs and stated as such.
Many on this forum replied criticising my point of view, advising the players I was mainly pointing the finger at in Bateman and Bula are two of our best players and they are not the problem with our poor attack.
Many pointed out it was our halves causing the problem and at the end of a long unsuccessful season they should be given a bit of slack.
So with this in mind I come bit this season with an open mind thinking maybe some of these comments defending these layers were correct.
Unfortunately I have seen very little change and nothing to show me that either of these players are worth their current price tag.
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LOL you do realise there’s more to fullback than sweeping block play link man right ?
By what you just said lattrell is the best fullback in the comp ….. Bot to be a dick , but I really doubt you’ve ever played the game with a fullback who’s any good .
Nrl teams are adjusting and game planning him , so the space isn’t 💯 there at the moment . The team has adjusted . I thought the attack was real good on the weekend , we just lacked execution.
And if we attack like that with a slightly better execution then we will be in for a shot at this broncos side , as they do not defend anywhere near the level of the panthers . You are reacting to highlights plays rather than watching intangibles , and execution which allows those plays to come off . I could go for days about how you’re wrong , but I don’t think I have to
 
Lestronge said:
To my opinion he’s in the top half fullbacks .
Bula - Turbo - Turbo
Bula-Teddy- teddy
Bula -Ponga- Ponga
Bula - CNK- Bula
Bula- Walsh -Walsh
Bula- Campbell- Bula
Bula -Drinkwater - drinkwater (but geez he is enigmatic. A poor man’s Benji re. Throwing caution to the wind)
Bula- Stewart- Bula
Bula - Kennedy - Bula
Bula - Papenhuyzen - Paps
Bula - Sloan - Bula
Bula - Gutho - gutho


Bula - Tracey - Bula
Bula - Edwards- Bula
Bula - Mitchell - Bula ( at fullback Lattrell is one of the best players in the comp at centre/ even 5/8 potentially)
Bula - Tab Fid - Tab Fid —- but it’s close
I have him right now at 9th in the comp . I think that’s a fair assessment . For a kid who hasn’t played 1 whole season yet
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I have him behind Manu, Brimson, Munster, Hughes, RTS at a pinch....
They're also Fullback in the NRL.
Some of the above is debateable also
- You have him over a Clive Churchill 3 times premiership winner? Might need to take off the goggles....
(There's always one I suppose)
 
Lestronge said:
LOL you do realise there’s more to fullback than sweeping block play link man right ?
By what you just said lattrell is the best fullback in the comp ….. Bot to be a dick , but I really doubt you’ve ever played the game with a fullback who’s any good .
Nrl teams are adjusting and game planning him , so the space isn’t 💯 there at the moment . The team has adjusted . I thought the attack was real good on the weekend , we just lacked execution.
And if we attack like that with a slightly better execution then we will be in for a shot at this broncos side , as they do not defend anywhere near the level of the panthers . You are reacting to highlights plays rather than watching intangibles , and execution which allows those plays to come off . I could go for days about how you’re wrong , but I don’t think I have to
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I’ve played the game and coached the game.
You keep your opinion and I’ll keep mine.
 
Vicious said:
Everyone was well aware players such as Reece Walsh, Ryan Paps, AJ Brimson, Tedesco, Drinkwater, Ponga, Turbo, Edwards and Latrell were elite after 23 games.
The only ones that were probably slower to really establish themselves were possibly Gutho and Will Kennedy.
I think many are still really missing the point.
Bula has showed glimpses of class, but not yet shown elite player capabilities like the players listed above regularly do.
With that in mind and the fact we are in real danger of losing players such as Stef due to lack of talent within our squad, should we or should we not have identified this a couple of weeks back and made Zac Lomax an offer too good to refuse ?
Yes we would have needed to release or offload contracted players that fit him in, yes it may have meant we give him an opportunity to play fullback and move Bula to the centres or wing, but if we are being fair dinkum about becoming a successful club anytime soon you simply cannot afford to miss these chances to sign an elite player when they become available,
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I don’t get all the talk about Lomax as a fullback.
Like Latrell his body shape and aerobic fitness is not at the level of an elite week in week out Fullback.
Turbo is the one exception to this.
I think we need to concentrate on other positions to strengthen before fullback at this point.
 
Oldman said:
I don’t get all the talk about Lomax as a fullback.
Like Latrell his body shape and aerobic fitness is not at the level of an elite week in week out Fullback.
Turbo is the one exception to this.
I think we need to concentrate on other positions to strengthen before fullback at this point.
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Centre, wing
 
Felt a bit more optimistic after seeing a replay of this game than I did with the Dragons game.

Biggest loss this season was our first loss against Raiders at 20 points. In all honesty, even if we only manage to win half a doze or so games this season but that 20 points is our biggest loss of the year, I will be content with this season.
 
Team is improving, sure we need to win games but I see so much improvement. I see commitment and a better side mentally. I also see mistakes and silly penalties but over all an improved performances.

Dont get the Bula negativity but each to their own. Kid has only played 24 NRL games. In the past I used to wince when we conceded a line break, now I have some hope that Bula will make a tackle. He is good under the highball, takes dirty hit ups, supports well and will continue to improve. Sure I also wish he could be as fast as Walsh ( 65 nrl games) or a line breaker like Edwards (137 nrl games), but I also wished that I had body like Ryan Reynolds! I include the number of games the others have played to help keep perspective.

If we can learn to play consistently and stop mistakes and giving away silly penalties while trying to apply pressure then we will win more games than we have in previous seasons. Can’t see us making the finals this year but you never know when a team is going to sync on the park. I consider myself as having decent football knowledge and I didn’t see 2005 coming, so you never know.
 
TCL said:
Team is improving, sure we need to win games but I see so much improvement. I see commitment and a better side mentally. I also see mistakes and silly penalties but over all an improved performances.

Dont get the Bula negativity but each to their own. Kid has only played 24 NRL games. In the past I used to wince when we conceded a line break, now I have some hope that Bula will make a tackle. He is good under the highball, takes dirty hit ups, supports well and will continue to improve. Sure I also wish he could be as fast as Walsh ( 65 nrl games) or a line breaker like Edwards (137 nrl games), but I also wished that I had body like Ryan Reynolds! I include the number of games the others have played to help keep perspective.

If we can learn to play consistently and stop mistakes and giving away silly penalties while trying to apply pressure then we will win more games than we have in previous seasons. Can’t see us making the finals this year but you never know when a team is going to sync on the park. I consider myself as having decent football knowledge and I didn’t see 2005 coming, so you never know.
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Does anybody remember just how bad Dylan Edwards was in 2019??

And that was his third season of NRL!

People throw out the term "flippers" for Kepaoa and Tupou for some odd handling errors - BUT ignore that Pat Richards also went through a similar period for us before "coming good"...

Edwards "Scissorhands" was appalling - but the coach stuck with him because he could see te talent that eluded most of the fans...

The anti-Bula bullshit comes from a few dopes who are old enough to not have tantrums when they lose - but apparently not smart enough!
 
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Lestronge said:
??? He’s one of the best fullback prospects to come through in a while . IN THE NRL !
Sure there’s transcendent players like Ponga and Walsh, but I mean pure out and out fullback !
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Clearly he’s not there yet which is fine not everyone is Walsh or Ponga (when he’s not injured), but I got no problems with Bula at the moment. Think he’s doing fine and will get better with more games under his belt.
 
Vicious said:
Over the past 5-10 games last season I could clearly see we were getting far less attacking impact from our edge back row and fullback in comparison to all other NRL clubs and stated as such.
Many on this forum replied criticising my point of view, advising the players I was mainly pointing the finger at in Bateman and Bula are two of our best players and they are not the problem with our poor attack.
Many pointed out it was our halves causing the problem and at the end of a long unsuccessful season they should be given a bit of slack.
So with this in mind I come bit this season with an open mind thinking maybe some of these comments defending these layers were correct.
Unfortunately I have seen very little change and nothing to show me that either of these players are worth their current price tag.
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Is it that or the fact of our continuity in our backline?? We have new halves this season which is different to most clubs. I also think that most clubs are watching bula more as he’s our only strike weapon, therefore less room. Edwards is regarded to be knocking on SOO door at the moment, and he certainly didn’t outshine bula the other day. If anything I’d give the points to bula. Maybe without Cleary he’s less effective, which supports what I am saying. Remember our halves gave only played four games together!!
I do believe and have stated previously that Bula needs an extra metre in pace to be an elite fullback. If I was coaching that’s what I would be working heavily on!!
 
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