Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Vicious said:
We have a large number of supporters on this forum who believe our backline meaning our 1-7 are genuine top 8 quality and it’s only our forwards that let us down and prevent us from making the top 8.
This is incorrect as our forwards are closer to top 8 quality than what our backline is.
In saying this we still need to improve our forwards and should be looking to recruit to make it better quality, but if we do not also realise our backline is not up to top 8 standard we will be banging our heads against the wall no matter how good our forward pack is.
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You gunna hold them all accountable too?

Making broad, generalising statements is cowardly.

Direct your tears to those in charge, no one here can make a difference
 
Vicious said:
Jaxon Purdue will end up being much closer to the standard of a player such as Brett Hodgson than what Bula will, take that to the bank.
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Receipt taken - your rose coloured vision of Hodgo's defence is hilarious!

Bula is a one-of-a-kind player and if he stays healthy he will earn your plaudits!

Tell me the first time Jaxon Purdue takes an attacking bomb to score (which is possible from centre too) - or just diffues a bomb at NRL level - and I'll give you a gold star....

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mtd#2 said:
The biggest issue isn't/wasnt the backs OR the forwards; it was the halves and injured players.

Halves
We built the team around Galvin at 6 and Luai at 7. Galvin left mid-season. It took us 6-8 weeks to start getting it together again due to injuries and wrong combos.

You only need to look at what happened to the Warriors when Metcalf was out to see the impact of losing your main player...

I assume Luai will be #6 and Douhei #7... If we can keep this combo all year then we are gravy.

Injuries
People forget how dominant May and Pole were for those first 7 or so rounds before Pole got injured. There was a bit of media commentary about how they were in the top 2 or 3 prop combos in the comp at the time. Pole didn't come back the same player though...

Toa was on fire early last season. But then he started playing injured and never found the same form again - infact I think he went backwards...

If Pole and Toa stay fit and find the same form, then we are gravy.
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I hope you are right, but I just don’t rate our 1-5 as top 8 quality aside from Taylan May.
Yes Turuva has won grand finals and he is a very solid player. Skelton is also a very solid metre eating winger, Bula offers speed and an aerial threat that we do not have aside from him and To’a is a tackle bust threat when at his best, but as a combination they lack x-factor and lack the overall quality of every rival NRL backline.
 
innsaneink said:
You gunna hold them all accountable too?

Making broad, generalising statements is cowardly.

Direct your tears to those in charge, no one here can make a difference
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This forum showcases how many of our supporters are happy to accept failure as long as we improve a couple of positions and do not get the wooden soon.
As long as a good portion of our supporter base is satisfied we will continue along the same path.
** There are a few people on this forum who genuinely believe we can make the top 8 in 2026. Time will tell, I hope they prove to be correct.
** Others such as yourself, Snidest, Batman&Robin know it is highly unlikely we will make the top 8 in 2026, but want to dance around our real issues within the salary cap and try and blame roster fillers players such as Seyfarth. If we do not improve in 2026 which is highly likely, who will you blame then ?
 
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Vicious said:
This forum showcases how many of our supporters are happy to accept failure as long as we improve a couple of positions and do not get the wooden soon.
As long as a good portion of our supporter base is satisfied we will continue along the same path.
** There are a few people on this forum who genuinely believe we can make the top 8 in 2026. Time will tell, I hope they prove to be correct.
** Others such as yourself and Snidest know it is highly unlikely we will make the top 8 in 2026, but wa then dance around our real issues within the salary cap and try and blame players such as roster fillers such as Seyfarth. If we do not improve in 2026 which is highly likely, who will you blame then ?
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What do you mean?
 
Hbom said:
What do you mean?
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The high value players within an NRL roster largely determine whether their team makes the top 8.
I am sick to death of the idiocy of people who want to blame roster filler players for our teams failure,.
If our high value players play to their value we will make the top 8, it’s that simple.
I can’t imagine Reece Walsh blaming Corey Jensen or BenTalty for their losses.
 
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Vicious said:
This forum showcases how many of our supporters are happy to accept failure as long as we improve a couple of positions and do not get the wooden soon.
As long as a good portion of our supporter base is satisfied we will continue along the same path.
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Thats just crazy talk

Not worth wasting time on

No thank you
 
Vicious said:
This forum showcases how many of our supporters are happy to accept failure as long as we improve a couple of positions and do not get the wooden soon.
As long as a good portion of our supporter base is satisfied we will continue along the same path.
** There are a few people on this forum who genuinely believe we can make the top 8 in 2026. Time will tell, I hope they prove to be correct.
** Others such as yourself, Snidest, Batman&Robin know it is highly unlikely we will make the top 8 in 2026, but want to dance around our real issues within the salary cap and try and blame roster fillers players such as Seyfarth. If we do not improve in 2026 which is highly likely, who will you blame then ?
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Bula of course!
 
mtd#2 said:
The biggest issue isn't/wasnt the backs OR the forwards; it was the halves and injured players.

Halves
We built the team around Galvin at 6 and Luai at 7. Galvin left mid-season. It took us 6-8 weeks to start getting it together again due to injuries and wrong combos.

You only need to look at what happened to the Warriors when Metcalf was out to see the impact of losing your main player...

I assume Luai will be #6 and Douhei #7... If we can keep this combo all year then we are gravy.

Injuries
People forget how dominant May and Pole were for those first 7 or so rounds before Pole got injured. There was a bit of media commentary about how they were in the top 2 or 3 prop combos in the comp at the time. Pole didn't come back the same player though...

Toa was on fire early last season. But then he started playing injured and never found the same form again - infact I think he went backwards...

If Pole and Toa stay fit and find the same form, then we are gravy.
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It was a significant disruption, the halves...we all know everything starts there.

Overall Id say 95% of our players are very good, backs and forwards, getting them all ON at the same time and firing as a cohesive unit where everyone knows whats expected of them is the challenge.

Too often this year we saw...I dunno what we saw...it looked like at times theyd all just met that morning, sometimes it was awful and no one had a clue what the hell was going on

Coaching staff....over to you, you have a busy summer
 
mtd#2 said:
Halves
We built the team around Galvin at 6 and Luai at 7. Galvin left mid-season. It took us 6-8 weeks to start getting it together again due to injuries and wrong combos.
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this is a very overlooked but good point. luai had a total of 6 different halves partners this year alone …. in a team he just joined.
0 chance for combinations to be formed
 
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Moh said:
Yup - I'd like another hooker. There was least a couple of decent backup options that IMO we should have gone for - now no longer available.

Proper back ups - ie ones that are happy to play cup but can provide some value filling in when needed.

Hope, while he seems like a decent and hard working guy, just doesn't cut it.
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The number 9 for PNG had a great attacking/running game and tough in defence.
Don't know his name but I was impressed. Should be looking at him.
 
Vicious said:
We have a large number of supporters on this forum who believe our backline meaning our 1-7 are genuine top 8 quality and it’s only our forwards that let us down and prevent us from making the top 8.
This is incorrect as our forwards are closer to top 8 quality than what our backline is.
In saying this we still need to improve our forwards and should be looking to recruit to make it better quality, but if we do not also realise our backline is not up to top 8 standard we will be banging our heads against the wall no matter how good our forward pack is.
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I think our forwards did OK and expect improvement with the addition of KPP. Bunty and AD as lock.
The backline was hampered most of the year with a disjointed half - 5/8 combination and To'a injury.
Latu was carried for much of the year when he finally got on the paddock. Young and inexperienced which set the tone for lack of creativity in the red zone, along with others. Enter Madden and some management and short kicking skills.
We came close to winning a number of games which would have made our year end tally much more respectable.
I think 2026 will be a much-improved year.
 
Tiger Stripes said:
I think our forwards did OK and expect improvement with the addition of KPP. Bunty and AD as lock.
The backline was hampered most of the year with a disjointed half - 5/8 combination and To'a injury.
Latu was carried for much of the year when he finally got on the paddock. Young and inexperienced which set the tone for lack of creativity in the red zone, along with others. Enter Madden and some management and short kicking skills.
We came close to winning a number of games which would have made our year end tally much more respectable.
I think 2026 will be a much-improved year.
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Madden will play Cup. Our best performances last season were with Douehi as halfback and with Latu missing the start of next season, I expect Adam to be 7 and Latu to end up the 14 once fit
 
gregjm87 said:
A bit to unpack here.
As for the supposed confirmation bias. I am stating what evidence shapes my opinion. I think this is very logical to do in a discussion and not sure why you found it so annoying aside from it being a retort to your comment. You have essentially done the same thing by referencing market values in your argument.
Taking Chunk's one comment, without considering any of his previous comments in the discussion, then you are indeed 100% correct that KPP is better than the few players you mentioned.
However with additional consideration given to his earlier comments, especially given his initial statement was along the lines of our forward pack is a concern as we have no-one of the quality of of the many players on show during these rep games then I think his comments are fair enough and why I think comparing KPP to the hookers playing not a fair comparison. Even more so when a lot of people don't include the hooker when discussing the 'pack' since they've started to refer to them as a member the 'spine'.
As for KPP as a signing. That wasn't part of any of the discussion. He is a good player with the potential to be much better than he has shown thus far in a position we desperately needed. I think he is on a fair salary for what he has shown thus far as well. I think it is an excellent signing for a club in our position. As I said that wasn't the discussion and I see only one backrower from the rep teams mentioned whom I believe KPP is a better player than.
Finally, as for the same people criticising all our signings. I assume you mean me and/or chunk. I don't know Chunk's opinion on most of our signings (or his credentials), I don't typically pay much attention to user names when reading unless I think something is very insightful (Jolls as an example) or very stupid (plenty of examples but I won't name them). To be fair to you I have criticised some of our signings, either the player (Olam, Bird) or the value (Turuva, Sullivan). I have spoken glowingly of some signings (Skelton, Hunt whom I have since been unimpressed by) and been rather neutral on some (Luai doesn't have 1.2m of value in him but is the circuit breaker we needed).
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I’ve already said the same thing twice . I’m not saying it a third time . I was critical of the Olam signing as well . And I’m not talking about objective criticism . I’m talking about a select group on here who shit on everything . I could name the names and stir up a bunch of trouble , but to what end ? It’s obvious. The self fulfilling, talking in circles style , I’m extremely critical of. It screams attention seeking to me. . I’ve already said 2 and a bit diatribes on this . That’s more than enough to get my point across.
 
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